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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKaty Tur Just Said This....
Maybe the Dems should stop talking about the Mueller Investigation/Report and start talking about Health Care.
Do you think that is exactly why Trump brought up killing Obamacare now? Is he hoping to change the narrative away from Mueller, the investigation, the report, collusion and obstruction of justice. Is this ACA/Obamacare thing just a distraction to take our minds off of all that could possibly bring Trump down? Does he not want us to see how the Repugs (led by McTurtle and Barr) are covering this whole thing up?
manor321
(3,344 posts)happy feet
(869 posts)Now, not as bright as she first appeared.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)hard to watch anymore.
Stockholm Syndrome.
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Fullduplexxx
(7,863 posts)Demonaut
(8,916 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,863 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I watch Lawrence O'Donnell, Brian Williams, and the replay of Rachel Maddow each night, 10 PM to 1 AM. That's the extent of my MSNBC consumption these days.
Traildogbob
(8,739 posts)Those three, and Joy Reid. That is it. The rest are useless and try to normalize all Repubs shit. Chuck and Mathews turn my stomach. Watered down Fox, Corp Wonks.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Hes solid. He was the first one to bring up the children being put in cages, and he stayed on the story.
Jarqui
(10,125 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)The Cable Noise Infotainment, not so much.
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)that is all.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)If there happens to be a healthy political by-product, fine. But mostly he wants to kill all things Obama. And Hillary.
We should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Defend HC, demand a full copy of the report. I don't trust Pelosi on this one; I think she'd be more than happy to move on. Fortunately, Schiff's honor has been called into question and he is defending himself.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)so the rest of us move on. Useless. Strung us along for 2 years on mueller....now"Get over it."? Naw, you and the reporters at msnbc dig up the mueller report and show us before we move to another topic.
Who cares about healthcare when the ground under your feet is turning russian?
hlthe2b
(102,275 posts)RW spin... In contrast, hell, even Andrea Mitchell showed a glimmer of recognition as to what is going on...
It is damned infuriating.
And, yes, I realize I left out all the male anchors, but to be honest, I have yet to hear any of them be so blatant about this...
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)little to zero control of what content they read on their Teleprompters. They do collect Million Dollar Paydays and that is all they really care.
Maddow and O'Donnell have content control and their Production Staff is separate from the rest of NBC.
Remember,this is Comcast Media we are talking about.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)She's the only one of the group that i see regularly, so i dont know about the others. But i dont see any RW manipulation of her. But then thats just my opinion too.
hlthe2b
(102,275 posts)I realize that none of them are lawyers, but geebus, even former Republican, Nicole Wallace is more prepared to deal with the spin (and yes, obviously she created it at one time), but still...
I've been very disappointed with all of those mentioned. They need to learn to do their homework and refer to their guests--many who are capable of reading between the lines.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)There've been numerous articles on how his cabinet ministers and a lot of of GOP are against it for 2020 reasons, the disruption it would cause etc. Trump has gotten good press with the Mueller report and terrible press with the healthcare thing so why would he do it? He was riding high. He's basically politically tone deaf.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Yes, Democrats can multitask. Democrats are talking about many issues. Republicans are not. duh.
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)has her baby, so there's that.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)IndyOp
(15,524 posts)They are doing anything and everything they can to get the report to disappear
MagickMuffin
(15,942 posts)So, perhaps Katy can take her journalistic clues and go talk to the members on said committees.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)or he's on a winning streak and wants to extend it by killing Americans.
ETA: Dems can walk and chew gum at the same time.
renate
(13,776 posts)Every show I watched on MSNBC last night had a discussion that at least touched on the fact that Democrats won in 2018 by talking not about Donald Trump but about health care. And GOPers are horrified that Trump is attacking Obamacare. So I'd say that she's saying what Nancy Pelosi et al would say.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)100% in 2018. Never vote red, but it was all blue as a back-stop to trump. Healthcares always important, but,thats not what won 2018. trump won us 2018. Blue Wave was to smash the living shit out of trump. Healthcares an easy topic when we get stonewalled by criminals. Safe place...kinda. And trump is helping us bc he wants to move oN from the report. Hes a salesman at the end of the day.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)I think Speaker Pelosi wants to make sure that all the anger and opposition to that Thing get channeled into productive outcomes, like staving off the repeal of Obamacare, so she emphasizes that... but the outrage is motivating. And while there are specific things to be outraged about-- like the non-ending effort to eliminate Obamacare-- it's part and parcel of all the rest of it. We stand for what we stand for, but that also turns out to be against all that they stand for. And it's not just certain policies, but the corruption, racist world view, greed, xenophobia, misogyny, homophobia (etc.) that informs them.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Nice work Katie Tur. You took the bait.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Slow walk the report and create non stop rage on their issues to divert attention.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)HOW many times have we seen it?
vlyons
(10,252 posts)nt
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)It seems to be turning into a disaster. But we can focus on both and the election. I sometimes wonder if these anchors are told to say this bs or if they come up with it themselves.
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)BadGimp
(4,015 posts)We have a winner
ancianita
(36,055 posts)repeats. What compels weariness is the attention of hers and her producers' making.
Trump doesn't strategize. IQ45 just goes with strategists who line up with his former to-do hate list against Obama. One they've come up with is that they think they've now got the court judges who'll help in Obamacare's destruction.
Let's not give IQ45 any crumb of thought credit. His 'people' write his most casual speech sequences. Constant repetition has raised his ugly style to something his cult thinks is presidential enough. Throw in the claims that he's been "chosen by God," and of course you're seeing a circle of ass covering going on -- one ass covers the other in the "circle of lies."
Trump doesn't write narrative, he's been playing his Maximal Leader part with sad victimization by the Mueller "conspiracy," bullshit jokes to his audiences, dog whistles, siccing his appointees to provoke outrage, overrule prosecutions, obfuscate, stall and make shit up. Trump team isn't the tail that wags the Democratic Party dog.
Dems will talk all about all the stuff they all do, as much as they want to, and Tur and media had better do what Rachel does -- keep the hell up.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)This is about the fundamentals of our democracy. The Russians DID hack. The Russians are STILL hacking. And Dumpster has done NOTHING about it. Now, what kind of American President doesn't want to protect America?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)But unless Tur gets elected President soon, I don't think the Democrats should follow her game plan.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)for political capitol.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)He's winning in the Mueller report category right now, but i guess he thinks that will translate to ANY topic. He's wrong
Tomorrows pep rally is gonna be a trainwreck i bet. Except to his minions
miyazaki
(2,243 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Upon the Barr schemo being released. It appears that we have reached the point where we all need to step up and question this Admin constantly, and that includes the media.
Something changed because by Monday morning she was back to the bs repuke talking points.
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