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global1

(25,247 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:17 PM Mar 2019

Katy Tur Just Said This....

Maybe the Dems should stop talking about the Mueller Investigation/Report and start talking about Health Care.

Do you think that is exactly why Trump brought up killing Obamacare now? Is he hoping to change the narrative away from Mueller, the investigation, the report, collusion and obstruction of justice. Is this ACA/Obamacare thing just a distraction to take our minds off of all that could possibly bring Trump down? Does he not want us to see how the Repugs (led by McTurtle and Barr) are covering this whole thing up?

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Katy Tur Just Said This.... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2019 OP
Katy Tur is a fucking moron manor321 Mar 2019 #1
I used to think she was level headed happy feet Mar 2019 #11
yes, sometimes she is so off-putting with flip, bizarre and wrong-tone remarks. loopy. EveHammond13 Mar 2019 #14
Maybe negoldie Mar 2019 #42
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #12
You know if manor321 is a woman you just did to her what you told her not to do Fullduplexxx Mar 2019 #13
and if manor is not a woman? Demonaut Mar 2019 #17
Well Then the latter poster wouldnt be hating on a democratic woman Fullduplexxx Mar 2019 #23
Who is this "Democrtic Women" ? OnDoutside Mar 2019 #24
I've moved her to the Alex Witt (MSNBC weekend anchor) category Miles Archer Mar 2019 #30
Me too. Traildogbob Mar 2019 #34
I'll add Chris Hayes to that list. lunatica Mar 2019 #49
+1000 jrthin Mar 2019 #51
Maybe Dems and media can multitask when the President can't nt Jarqui Mar 2019 #2
The Democrats can Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #10
You betcha it is !! And they just campaigned for the opposite 4 months ago!! donkeypoofed Mar 2019 #3
Tur is a tool. MontanaMama Mar 2019 #4
Trump is vengeful, not strategic BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #5
No more juice in the mueller orange and katys getting paid either way.... Chin music Mar 2019 #6
Katy Tur, Alex (Nit)Witt, Casey Hunt, and Stephanie Ruhle all seem content to be manipulated by hlthe2b Mar 2019 #7
Typical of on Air Talent that have Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #16
Stephanie Ruhle? She's hardly a trump toadie. She's very critical of him every day. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #43
I don't think any of them are "Trump toadies", but they are far to readily manipulated by spin hlthe2b Mar 2019 #46
Yeah, some of them do seem to like to hear themselves more than their guests!! nt oldsoftie Mar 2019 #47
The repeal Obamacare charge is being led by Mulvaney and his Tea Party cohorts in the WH. octoberlib Mar 2019 #8
Where are the for real Journalists? Iliyah Mar 2019 #9
Real journalism was replaced by infotainment a long time ago. comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #26
Katy Tur will be off air for awhile once she DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #15
Good point! ancianita Mar 2019 #37
Your idea sounds plausible to me. IndyOp Mar 2019 #18
We have committees for that MagickMuffin Mar 2019 #19
that may be it. barbtries Mar 2019 #20
but isn't she right? renate Mar 2019 #21
Not sure where this narrative is coming from all of a sudden. I voted to counter trump. Chin music Mar 2019 #29
I don't think you can separate the fighting "for" from the fighting "against." deurbano Mar 2019 #38
Yup. Trying to control the media. Baitball Blogger Mar 2019 #22
That is Trump's plan grantcart Mar 2019 #25
Precisely. Chin music Mar 2019 #31
We have plenty of time to talk about healthcare vlyons Mar 2019 #27
There Are Only a Few MSNBC Anchors I refuse to Watch--Katy Turd Tops the List! DoctorJoJo Mar 2019 #28
Could be Meowmee Mar 2019 #32
we need to do both. but how long have we been hearing bengazi + whitewater? pansypoo53219 Mar 2019 #33
DING DING DING DING BadGimp Mar 2019 #35
Dems DO focus on multiple issues. Tur's producers tell her what Dems foreground, which is what she ancianita Mar 2019 #36
This seems to be an MSNBC/MSM talking point, even FOX, I don't agree with them. pdsimdars Mar 2019 #39
Democrats can talk about both, since both are in the news. HC is always a concern. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #40
Of course it's a distraction. Unfortunately, some just followed along with it ehrnst Mar 2019 #41
then trump is eve dumber than i thought. He'll LOSE any healthcare talk. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #44
Flush that Turd. nt miyazaki Mar 2019 #45
On Sunday Katy Tur basically said this ... rufus dog Mar 2019 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2019 #50
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
14. yes, sometimes she is so off-putting with flip, bizarre and wrong-tone remarks. loopy.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:01 PM
Mar 2019

hard to watch anymore.

Response to manor321 (Reply #1)

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
30. I've moved her to the Alex Witt (MSNBC weekend anchor) category
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:24 PM
Mar 2019

I watch Lawrence O'Donnell, Brian Williams, and the replay of Rachel Maddow each night, 10 PM to 1 AM. That's the extent of my MSNBC consumption these days.

Traildogbob

(8,739 posts)
34. Me too.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:39 PM
Mar 2019

Those three, and Joy Reid. That is it. The rest are useless and try to normalize all Repubs shit. Chuck and Mathews turn my stomach. Watered down Fox, Corp Wonks.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
49. I'll add Chris Hayes to that list.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:39 PM
Mar 2019

He’s solid. He was the first one to bring up the children being put in cages, and he stayed on the story.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
5. Trump is vengeful, not strategic
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:22 PM
Mar 2019

If there happens to be a healthy political by-product, fine. But mostly he wants to kill all things Obama. And Hillary.

We should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Defend HC, demand a full copy of the report. I don't trust Pelosi on this one; I think she'd be more than happy to move on. Fortunately, Schiff's honor has been called into question and he is defending himself.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
6. No more juice in the mueller orange and katys getting paid either way....
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:23 PM
Mar 2019

so the rest of us move on. Useless. Strung us along for 2 years on mueller....now"Get over it."? Naw, you and the reporters at msnbc dig up the mueller report and show us before we move to another topic.
Who cares about healthcare when the ground under your feet is turning russian?

hlthe2b

(102,275 posts)
7. Katy Tur, Alex (Nit)Witt, Casey Hunt, and Stephanie Ruhle all seem content to be manipulated by
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:23 PM
Mar 2019

RW spin... In contrast, hell, even Andrea Mitchell showed a glimmer of recognition as to what is going on...

It is damned infuriating.

And, yes, I realize I left out all the male anchors, but to be honest, I have yet to hear any of them be so blatant about this...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. Typical of on Air Talent that have
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:03 PM
Mar 2019

little to zero control of what content they read on their Teleprompters. They do collect Million Dollar Paydays and that is all they really care.

Maddow and O'Donnell have content control and their Production Staff is separate from the rest of NBC.

Remember,this is Comcast Media we are talking about.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
43. Stephanie Ruhle? She's hardly a trump toadie. She's very critical of him every day.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:17 PM
Mar 2019

She's the only one of the group that i see regularly, so i dont know about the others. But i dont see any RW manipulation of her. But then thats just my opinion too.

hlthe2b

(102,275 posts)
46. I don't think any of them are "Trump toadies", but they are far to readily manipulated by spin
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:28 PM
Mar 2019

I realize that none of them are lawyers, but geebus, even former Republican, Nicole Wallace is more prepared to deal with the spin (and yes, obviously she created it at one time), but still...

I've been very disappointed with all of those mentioned. They need to learn to do their homework and refer to their guests--many who are capable of reading between the lines.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
8. The repeal Obamacare charge is being led by Mulvaney and his Tea Party cohorts in the WH.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:23 PM
Mar 2019

There've been numerous articles on how his cabinet ministers and a lot of of GOP are against it for 2020 reasons, the disruption it would cause etc. Trump has gotten good press with the Mueller report and terrible press with the healthcare thing so why would he do it? He was riding high. He's basically politically tone deaf.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. Where are the for real Journalists?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:24 PM
Mar 2019

Yes, Democrats can multitask. Democrats are talking about many issues. Republicans are not. duh.

IndyOp

(15,524 posts)
18. Your idea sounds plausible to me.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:12 PM
Mar 2019

They are doing anything and everything they can to get the report to disappear

MagickMuffin

(15,942 posts)
19. We have committees for that
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:25 PM
Mar 2019

So, perhaps Katy can take her journalistic clues and go talk to the members on said committees.

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
20. that may be it.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:33 PM
Mar 2019

or he's on a winning streak and wants to extend it by killing Americans.

ETA: Dems can walk and chew gum at the same time.

renate

(13,776 posts)
21. but isn't she right?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 03:34 PM
Mar 2019

Every show I watched on MSNBC last night had a discussion that at least touched on the fact that Democrats won in 2018 by talking not about Donald Trump but about health care. And GOPers are horrified that Trump is attacking Obamacare. So I'd say that she's saying what Nancy Pelosi et al would say.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
29. Not sure where this narrative is coming from all of a sudden. I voted to counter trump.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:23 PM
Mar 2019

100% in 2018. Never vote red, but it was all blue as a back-stop to trump. Healthcares always important, but,thats not what won 2018. trump won us 2018. Blue Wave was to smash the living shit out of trump. Healthcares an easy topic when we get stonewalled by criminals. Safe place...kinda. And trump is helping us bc he wants to move oN from the report. Hes a salesman at the end of the day.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
38. I don't think you can separate the fighting "for" from the fighting "against."
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:51 PM
Mar 2019

I think Speaker Pelosi wants to make sure that all the anger and opposition to that Thing get channeled into productive outcomes, like staving off the repeal of Obamacare, so she emphasizes that... but the outrage is motivating. And while there are specific things to be outraged about-- like the non-ending effort to eliminate Obamacare-- it's part and parcel of all the rest of it. We stand for what we stand for, but that also turns out to be against all that they stand for. And it's not just certain policies, but the corruption, racist world view, greed, xenophobia, misogyny, homophobia (etc.) that informs them.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
25. That is Trump's plan
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:17 PM
Mar 2019

Slow walk the report and create non stop rage on their issues to divert attention.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
32. Could be
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:26 PM
Mar 2019

It seems to be turning into a disaster. But we can focus on both and the election. I sometimes wonder if these anchors are told to say this bs or if they come up with it themselves.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
36. Dems DO focus on multiple issues. Tur's producers tell her what Dems foreground, which is what she
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 04:47 PM
Mar 2019

repeats. What compels weariness is the attention of hers and her producers' making.

Trump doesn't strategize. IQ45 just goes with strategists who line up with his former to-do hate list against Obama. One they've come up with is that they think they've now got the court judges who'll help in Obamacare's destruction.

Let's not give IQ45 any crumb of thought credit. His 'people' write his most casual speech sequences. Constant repetition has raised his ugly style to something his cult thinks is presidential enough. Throw in the claims that he's been "chosen by God," and of course you're seeing a circle of ass covering going on -- one ass covers the other in the "circle of lies."

Trump doesn't write narrative, he's been playing his Maximal Leader part with sad victimization by the Mueller "conspiracy," bullshit jokes to his audiences, dog whistles, siccing his appointees to provoke outrage, overrule prosecutions, obfuscate, stall and make shit up. Trump team isn't the tail that wags the Democratic Party dog.

Dems will talk all about all the stuff they all do, as much as they want to, and Tur and media had better do what Rachel does -- keep the hell up.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
39. This seems to be an MSNBC/MSM talking point, even FOX, I don't agree with them.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:01 PM
Mar 2019

This is about the fundamentals of our democracy. The Russians DID hack. The Russians are STILL hacking. And Dumpster has done NOTHING about it. Now, what kind of American President doesn't want to protect America?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
40. Democrats can talk about both, since both are in the news. HC is always a concern.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:02 PM
Mar 2019

But unless Tur gets elected President soon, I don't think the Democrats should follow her game plan.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
41. Of course it's a distraction. Unfortunately, some just followed along with it
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:08 PM
Mar 2019

for political capitol.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
44. then trump is eve dumber than i thought. He'll LOSE any healthcare talk.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:19 PM
Mar 2019

He's winning in the Mueller report category right now, but i guess he thinks that will translate to ANY topic. He's wrong

Tomorrows pep rally is gonna be a trainwreck i bet. Except to his minions

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
48. On Sunday Katy Tur basically said this ...
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:33 PM
Mar 2019

Upon the Barr schemo being released. It appears that we have reached the point where we all need to step up and question this Admin constantly, and that includes the media.

Something changed because by Monday morning she was back to the bs repuke talking points.

Response to rufus dog (Reply #48)

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