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Avenatti is "financially unable to employ counsel" and will be represented by Federal Defenders. (Original Post) Gothmog Mar 2019 OP
Wow. grantcart Mar 2019 #1
Avenatti may have accidentally done Democrats a favor. pnwmom Mar 2019 #2
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2019 #3
What makes Avenatti a "high profile Democrat"? jberryhill Mar 2019 #20
he's better looking than anyone on trumps tem Demonaut Mar 2019 #23
Oh well jberryhill Mar 2019 #24
that settles it then, DU does not have trolls Demonaut Mar 2019 #40
DU does have an abundance of folks... jberryhill Mar 2019 #41
so we do have trolls? or we don't? Demonaut Mar 2019 #42
LOL! lunatica Mar 2019 #43
I wouldn't know jberryhill Mar 2019 #44
Just because someone posts on DU doesn't mean they can't be gullible. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #26
Louise Mensch jberryhill Mar 2019 #32
You would think they could at least get it right. Its HIPAA. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #34
Media attention. Stormy Daniels. Self promotion. pnwmom Mar 2019 #39
You don't get to be a Fed Pub Defender by being a slouch. He'll have a good defense atty. Chin music Mar 2019 #4
My uncle was a Federal Defender for many years. madaboutharry Mar 2019 #5
Public Defenders are wonderful people. TruckFump Mar 2019 #35
The IRS and California Justice Attorney said they had Jarqui Mar 2019 #6
LOL, so many people here were sooooo in love with Avenatti. Where are you people now? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #7
"Remember When..." jberryhill Mar 2019 #8
Credits should be awarded to ever DUer who was punished for being wise to Avenatti. Will that DontBooVote Mar 2019 #10
Credits redeemable toward the next Fyre Festival! jberryhill Mar 2019 #11
Ahhhh, if only we could turn back the hands of time.... DontBooVote Mar 2019 #12
Ah yes! 3_Limes Mar 2019 #22
When he appeared on tv as Stormy's lawyer, madaboutharry Mar 2019 #13
IMO he was using her to further his own deisre for publicity MichMan Mar 2019 #14
Stormy agrees with you. madaboutharry Mar 2019 #15
How would anyone know? jberryhill Mar 2019 #18
Avenatti 2020! ProudLib72 Mar 2019 #45
I love anyone who rips trump! Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #21
The only thing worse than having Avenatti as your lawyer... jberryhill Mar 2019 #9
Ain't that the truth hardluck Mar 2019 #17
Yet Avenatti is still tweeting about the Nike allegations he was threatening to disclose MichMan Mar 2019 #16
Best headline of the week here.... jberryhill Mar 2019 #19
roflmaooooooo Celerity Mar 2019 #25
I agree with most of these points, but disagree with one ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #27
Well said jberryhill Mar 2019 #28
Thanks ... glad we agree ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #30
Well, he sure fooled me. secondwind Mar 2019 #29
He is planning on defending himself. delisen Mar 2019 #31
He'd be better off buying a white Bronco jberryhill Mar 2019 #33
Yes! I'd like to watch Avenatti try to top that delisen Mar 2019 #36
Tell him everyone will watch it on TV, and he'll be on it like white on rice jberryhill Mar 2019 #37
So Avenatti is being nailed for the exact same scheme Trump has been up to for decades? meow2u3 Mar 2019 #38
because our side doesn't cover for him the way the right does for trump JI7 Mar 2019 #46
More details Jarqui Mar 2019 #47
Sooooooo.. #basta ? 912gdm Mar 2019 #48

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
2. Avenatti may have accidentally done Democrats a favor.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:27 PM
Mar 2019

Now the SDNY can demonstrate that they don't just go after Republicans -- they go after high profile Democrats, too.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. What makes Avenatti a "high profile Democrat"?
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:49 AM
Mar 2019

The USAO-SDNY doesn't need to justify itself to anyone. The US Attorney, as in every district, is appointed by and serves at the pleasure of the President.

Avenatti has never run for office nor served the public in any capacity. He is, and has been since day one, nothing other than a thin-skinned, cowardly narcissist with a talent for attracting the support of the desperately gullible.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
23. he's better looking than anyone on trumps tem
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:01 AM
Mar 2019

and you just called a lot of long time DUers "gullible"

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. Oh well
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:25 AM
Mar 2019

Having accused others of being trolls for months for simply telling the truth about his history with Tully's, his former partner, etc. - information which was all known and regularly hidden here at DU - then the gullible folks will just have to suck it up. There is a collection of DUers who went after anyone trying to tell the truth about this despicable person and his toxic personality disorder.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
41. DU does have an abundance of folks...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 12:22 AM
Mar 2019

...who believe that a "troll" is "someone who disagrees with me".

But when sourced, verifiable information about court proceedings, such as the long-running dispute between the IRS and Avenatti arising from the Tully's trainwreck, which by no means started recently, is censored as "right wing talking points", then the problem is not one of mere disagreement, but a rejection of objective reality.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
44. I wouldn't know
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 12:34 AM
Mar 2019

I post here under my real name, and you can verify my record of political donations and activities. If people didn't use silly pseudonyms in the first place, then there would be a lot less reason to suspect them of being trolls.

Where does one go to sign up for these jobs?

Personally, I don't see why anyone would pay people to screw around with an internet forum which largely consists of older folks who watch TV and post stuff about what they see on it. What's the value proposition? Are DUers some formidable political force of some kind? I doubt it.

The MIRT team seems pretty effective, IMHO.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
26. Just because someone posts on DU doesn't mean they can't be gullible.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:42 AM
Mar 2019

I read "Donald Trump can't survive (insert scandal), he's going to be resigning by the end of the month for sure!" posts almost every day here. Louise Mensch, patribotics, politicususa and Palmer Report get posted here on a daily basis.

Heck, I read a post this morning that said Trump won't lose in 2020 because he's going to have Russia add several thousands of votes in all the critical swing states to ensure he wins.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. Louise Mensch
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:13 AM
Mar 2019

...yah, another one. Her promoters on DU never give a shit that none of her stuff makes actual sense.


pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
39. Media attention. Stormy Daniels. Self promotion.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:18 PM
Mar 2019

I'm not saying he was a good Democrat. I'm saying that his name is very well known, and he's publicly identified himself as a Democrat.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
4. You don't get to be a Fed Pub Defender by being a slouch. He'll have a good defense atty.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:31 PM
Mar 2019

He made the right decision. He's going to do his own theory and gymnastics anyway.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
5. My uncle was a Federal Defender for many years.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:43 PM
Mar 2019

He once told my dad that he doubted if he ever had an innocent client but that it was his job to represent them as if they were.

He then became a Federal Judge during the Clinton Administration.

Avenatti will have a good lawyer.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
35. Public Defenders are wonderful people.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:27 AM
Mar 2019

They take shit from the prosecuters, the public and their clients and still do their jobs. Amen and bless them!

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
6. The IRS and California Justice Attorney said they had
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:54 PM
Mar 2019

been working on his case for a long time (years)

They'd frozen one of his business bank accounts for payroll taxes some time ago so he started depositing and pay bills via one of his trust accounts for his law practice - which is rather naughty (stated very roughly). They'd been after him for personal taxes going back to 2009-10. You can see in the case docs that they were working on the case without his knowledge for some time. They probably quietly inventoried whatever assets they could and seized them/froze them when he was arrested.

The banks would stop his credit cards either when his accounts got frozen or they heard the news.

He doesn't own his homes or office building. So he's probably tapped out.

Then this happened




and
Avenatti co-counsel for Nike case, Mark Geragos, was promptly fired by CNN
https://www.thewrap.com/mark-geragos-fired-cnn-commentator-lame-ass-cut-run-network-after-being-fired/
 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
10. Credits should be awarded to ever DUer who was punished for being wise to Avenatti. Will that
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:26 PM
Mar 2019

happen? Fuck no.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. Credits redeemable toward the next Fyre Festival!
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 06:28 PM
Mar 2019

I would have gone anyway.

I mean, how awesome to be able to say you were there, amirite?

3_Limes

(363 posts)
22. Ah yes!
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 09:13 AM
Mar 2019

The 'Purity in Thought Police' were mighty aggressive and persistent in making sure that as few people as possible could become aware of the facts.

Sure glad we have those folks here!!
/scarcasm

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
13. When he appeared on tv as Stormy's lawyer,
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:08 PM
Mar 2019

he seemed to be doing the job.

No one here could have known that he was an alleged tax cheat and an alleged scam artist. How would anyone know? Then Stormy fired him and there was reason to become suspicious.

Of course he has always been obnoxious. But that is something different.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
14. IMO he was using her to further his own deisre for publicity
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:56 PM
Mar 2019

It was never clear to me that he had her interests first and foremost

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. How would anyone know?
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:53 PM
Mar 2019

Lol. It was WELL KNOWN.

His fan club on DU kept censoring information about his tax problems and the Tully’s situation by hiding posts about it.

Appearing on TV is NOT “doing the job” of litigating one’s client’s case.

hardluck

(638 posts)
17. Ain't that the truth
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:49 PM
Mar 2019

He’ll have private representation in the CA action- same attorney that previously represented him out here. She’s good so I can only imagine it’s for the publicity not any money as he has none.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
19. Best headline of the week here....
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 08:08 AM
Mar 2019
https://deadspin.com/whatever-michael-avenatti-has-on-nike-no-one-really-gi-1833580124

Whatever Michael Avenatti Has On Nike, No One Really Gives A Shit

This Avenatti character rips off his business partners and employees in the Tully's business, rips off all of us by evading taxes for years, rips off his former partners, rips of his clients, uses a PAC as a personal piggy bank...

...and then while he's having his airplane, sports cars, apartments and offices taken away from him, wants us to get into a tizzy over the fact that while the NCAA, colleges and TV networks make billions, Nike was paying some kids to play basketball.

Oh, my fucking GAWD - dark-colored young people were getting PAID to play fucking basketball! We can't have THAT!

And now we have to pay for this shitstain's lawyers.

He just wanted to get paid.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. I agree with most of these points, but disagree with one ...
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:55 AM
Mar 2019
"Nike was paying some kids to play basketball.

Oh, my fucking GAWD - dark-colored young people were getting PAID to play fucking basketball! We can't have THAT! "


The issue is much larger than this. And the word 'some' is a very important part of that issue. As is the fact that this practice is, in fact, illegal.

Should it be? That definitely debatable, but it presently IS.

And yes, a LOT of people do give a shit. Including the NCAA, very much so.

Oh, and everybody NOT getting paid. They are likely to give many shits.

Just saying.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. Well said
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:01 AM
Mar 2019

The thrust of the article, though, is that Avenatti wasn't looking to rectify anything about the situation. He was just looking to get paid.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
30. Thanks ... glad we agree ...
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:08 AM
Mar 2019

This is an issue ripe for reform is the truth, and Avenatti sure as shit wasn't out for that, clearly

But I do take issue with that part of the article and think it degrades the quality overall.

Athletes not getting paid for college sports is not a racism thing, as is implied, and I think that's a bit of a cheap shot. I think it has a LOT to do with it just being a NIGHTMARE, administratively, to allow to occur. It's much easier to just say 'nobody gets to take things of value' ... and be done with it.

I'll buy Avenatti is a greedy, shady asshole, but I'm not going to pin 'racist' on the man ... certainly not based on this sort of evidence.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
29. Well, he sure fooled me.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:02 AM
Mar 2019

I liked him because of his attacks on Trump. But there was always a layer of “sleaze” about him.

Good riddance.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
38. So Avenatti is being nailed for the exact same scheme Trump has been up to for decades?
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 12:06 PM
Mar 2019

If Avenatti is in trouble, why isn't Moscow Mussolini?

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
47. More details
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 07:54 AM
Mar 2019

Did Michael Avenatti Stiff Beauty Vlogger Michelle Phan?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/did-michael-avenatti-stiff-beauty-vlogger-michelle-phan?via=twitter_page

The Sleaziest Things the Feds Say Avenatti Did
https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-avenatti-arrest-the-sleaziest-things-the-feds-say-he-did

He's locked his twitter account and withdrawn posts he made on the Nike scandal.
Nike's stock dipped and bounced back after his arrest.

Seagram's heiress Clare Bronfman says she briefly hired and fired him for the NXIVM case.

He's now a punch line for the Trumps.

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