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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs an ultra high speed rail service along the entire length of our Western states feasible?
I'm talking running a train from near our Canadian border to our Mexican border. Is something like that feasible?
The benefits to such a train would go a long way towards relieving the housing crisis in our Western cities, Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, SD, etc. as it would give people more options on where they can live and still commute to work. The HSR would stop at transportation hubs where people could take other means of public transport, buses, trains, etc., to get them to their place of work.
It would also be good for the environment as there would be less flights along our West coast.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Yavin4
(35,422 posts)I'm more interested in the feasibility of the idea.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)If they can do it back then, we sure as hell can do it now.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)Yavin4
(35,422 posts)would that have made the project more feasible and possibly less expensive?
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)msongs
(67,365 posts)up the west side of the valley non stop in a straight line LA to SF but got hijacked and routed to the east side of the valley with lots of local stops, thus making it not high speed rail anymore
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)And the excuses with COSTS!!!!
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)pwb
(11,252 posts).
caraher
(6,278 posts)The derailment south of Tacoma in December 2017 came from an effort to cut Seattle-to-Portland travel time by not following the water along Puget Sound as the existing route did. The first passenger run came to grief at a spot along the more direct route where there was a sharp curve and the train did not slow in time.
Local plans to extend commuter rail have proceeded at a glacial pace. Everyone seems to want it, but nothing much seems to happen, or so I hear from those who have lived here longer than I have.
So for true high-speed rail around here there would need to be a huge investment. Probably entirely new rights of way, expensive construction...
RockRaven
(14,911 posts)Check out how extensive the bullet train network is in Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinkansen
The big barriers are cost of initial construction and getting consumers to change their behavior.
brooklynite
(94,366 posts)For high speed rail, you need separate tracks, designed for high speed banking and turning. That land is almost all in private hands. How much time, money and political capital can you spend acquiring it?
shanti
(21,675 posts)They have the machine for it too.
hunter
(38,304 posts)... and provide downtown-to-downtown service.
Electricity can be generated without using fossil fuels.
Jet fuel can be synthesized using non fossil fuel energy sources, but it would be much more expensive than fossil fuels. For example the U.S. Navy has developed a process to make jet fuel from the carbon dioxide in seawater using nuclear power, so that aircraft carriers might make fuel for the planes they carry and the smaller non-nuclear support vessels accompanying them.
If planes were required to use carbon-neutral synthetic fuels then the cost of flying would be comparable to the cost of high speed rail. High speed rail might be preferable for its downtown-to-downtown service, comfort, and convenience.