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babylonsister

(171,023 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:00 AM Mar 2019

Adam Schiff Just Shattered Trump's Hope Of Burying The Mueller Report

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/29/adam-schiff-just-shattered-trumps-hope-of-burying-the-mueller-report.html


Posted on Fri, Mar 29th, 2019 by Jason Easley
Adam Schiff Just Shattered Trump’s Hope Of Burying The Mueller Report
House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) flatly stated that Congress would get the whole Mueller report, even the redacted sections.


Schiff said during an interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow:

We’re going to compel the release of the report. This report is all going to come out and it’s just going to reflect more poorly on the attorney general if when it does come out, and we look at the difference between what he redacted and what was under those redactions it shows an effort to cover up or conceal either evidence of impropriety of evidence of a lack of morals or ethics or judgment and that is shy of criminality or in the case of obstruction of justice is criminality. We’re going to compel this. This is a fight that is worth going to the mat on.

Bill Barr and his confirmation said I’ll be as transparent as possible as much as the law or policy would allow, if he was true to those words, as Jerry Nadler said, he wouldn’t be saying I’m cutting all the grand jury material. He would be saying Congress, I’m going to the court tomorrow to seek their permission to send it all to you. And I’ll tell you this, the other areas he redact about classified information, we get that all the time. Information about pending investigation matters gave hundreds of thousands of pages that were both open investigation and investigation material that reflected on the privacy of third parties and if you don’t think so, ask Peter Strzok or Lisa Page how they feel about that.



Trump isn’t going to be able to hide the full Mueller report from the House Intelligence Committee. Trump’s delusions of claiming total exoneration while hiding the evidence have been shattered. Bill Barr has carried Trump’s water, but he can’t keep the report from Congress. When the full report is released, it is going to expose not just Donald Trump, but the stooge behavior of Bill Barr.

Donald Trump is starting to understand that he isn’t going to get away with his big Mueller report con.
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Adam Schiff Just Shattered Trump's Hope Of Burying The Mueller Report (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2019 OP
How could obstruction of justice be inconclusive when it is still in progress? gordianot Mar 2019 #1
The executive branch thinks the report belongs to them. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #4
Beware: Trump is delusional and insane sickly.Don't be fearful, just alert onit2day Mar 2019 #40
If he had been exonerated free copies of the entire report malaise Mar 2019 #2
Ya got that right, Malaise. Grammy23 Mar 2019 #9
Hell, the government printing press would have copied the report, book bound it... TruckFump Mar 2019 #26
Wouldn't he have ordered the report plastered on billboards? LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #29
The fact that the White House in in such disarray gldstwmn Mar 2019 #32
Rules are different for Democrats. watoos Mar 2019 #3
yup. rules are different. and denial and projection is so natural to them they can't imagine that certainot Mar 2019 #13
There HAS to be other Scarsdale Mar 2019 #5
Then the rebubs will claim Vdizzle Mar 2019 #6
You can rest assured that ANYTHING that we get not_the_one Mar 2019 #28
Agreed Vdizzle Mar 2019 #39
We must impeach to get all the Mueller report, tax returns. bank statements etc onit2day Mar 2019 #41
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Mar 2019 #7
I just heard Timmygoat Mar 2019 #8
When they go low, we use facts. nt DesertRat Mar 2019 #10
👏👏👏 OhNo-Really Mar 2019 #17
Well said DesertRat Mar 2019 #24
Thank you Adam Schiff. Never let up. Barr should never have been confirmed, and the fix was in c-rational Mar 2019 #11
the Gutter in Chief... myohmy2 Mar 2019 #12
The next time MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #14
I wonder now if Mueller could have ended his investigation on purpose now rather than closer cstanleytech Mar 2019 #15
I doubt that Mueller took into consideration anything political. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #18
Well it's not exactly political rather it's that if he had done it and released closer to cstanleytech Mar 2019 #20
In my view, that would be a political consideration. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #21
After the clean cut True Blue American Mar 2019 #16
I am glad that Adam Schiff is leading this investigation. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #19
Someone said this morning (sorry I was in bed dozing) that it may take years or decades to see what UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #22
Trump's "no collusion" drumbeat rings even more LibDemAlways Mar 2019 #23
Resign, Immediately (Everyone Calling For Schiff's Resignation)! (n/t) corbettkroehler Mar 2019 #25
I watched that segment with bated breath and..... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2019 #27
Rec for Adam Schiff DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #30
This is why Trump is hysterically gldstwmn Mar 2019 #31
They should play video of the trucks delivering the Star report every 15 minutes. Hammer it home. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #33
Adam Schiff. We should keep him around. dchill Mar 2019 #34
K&R BlueJac Mar 2019 #35
Schiff acknowledged and appreciated the public support Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #36
I am loving this new strength. We want people to fight for us against these evil ones. pdsimdars Mar 2019 #37
But Trump keeps saying "release the report!" So do the President's bidding! oldsoftie Mar 2019 #38
History Lesson about a "complete and authentic resume of the report" TomVilmer Mar 2019 #42

LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
4. The executive branch thinks the report belongs to them.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:25 AM
Mar 2019

They obviously don't see themselves as working for the people, never mind who paid for the investigation in the first place. That report should have been made public as soon as it was done. I can understand why they might not release certain parts of it if their were matters of national security involved, but too many times government uses national security as a shield to cover asses. I know that Trump and company were compromised, and we deserve to see the proof so we can figure out what to do about it.

malaise

(268,594 posts)
2. If he had been exonerated free copies of the entire report
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:13 AM
Mar 2019

would have been everywhere. I have never seen such a sloppy cover-up

Lock them all up!

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
9. Ya got that right, Malaise.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:10 AM
Mar 2019

We’d have already received it and would have finished reading it by now.

tRump is scared sh*tless but he has to put on his big bully act for his base. The rest of us have two brain cells to rub together and have figured out how to interpret BS when we hear it or read it. Barr’s letter raised way more questions than answers. So he better gird his loins. This fight ain’t even half started.

Release the full, unredacted report. Pronto.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
26. Hell, the government printing press would have copied the report, book bound it...
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:46 AM
Mar 2019

...and every citizen 18 and over would have been Fed-Ex'ed a copy!

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
32. The fact that the White House in in such disarray
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:46 AM
Mar 2019

is to our advantage. This week was a complete and utter shit show for them.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. Rules are different for Democrats.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:17 AM
Mar 2019

There is plenty of precedence for the Mueller report to be released to Congress, so what? Republicans will fight releasing it right up to the SC. It may be up to Robert Mueller to do a press conference because Republicans will fight Congress subpoenaing him to testify right up to the SC.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
13. yup. rules are different. and denial and projection is so natural to them they can't imagine that
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:32 AM
Mar 2019

democrats can evaluate it without leaking like the nunes bunch

barr is there to either save trump or to make him think so until it's necessary to dump him (and a bunch of other cons) for short term loss to save the party/institution. or maybe barr just freaks out and gives it up without getting the go ahead. or they stall to the SC after putting someone like trey gowdy doody on and we won't see it unless mueller spills it or some patriot with access to a copy leaks it.

good to hear dems saying they will stick to the tuesday deadline. if they don't get it get barr and mueller in front of camera with one day notice

every day they stall this is another day of global warming denial

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
5. There HAS to be other
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:28 AM
Mar 2019

copies. What is someone "accidentally" sent a copy to the democratic committee? Someone who is sick and tired of this fiasco with tRump and the traitorous gop. Someone who really does love this country, and is tired of it being dragged into the pits of HELL. People with nothing to hide, hide nothing.

Vdizzle

(383 posts)
6. Then the rebubs will claim
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:36 AM
Mar 2019

that it isn’t the real report and the go about their usual rat-effing and muddy the waters in order to sew doubt when the official copy does come to light.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
28. You can rest assured that ANYTHING that we get
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:56 AM
Mar 2019

with the permission of William Barr, will NOT be the real report.

I won't trust it UNLESS it comes from somebody else.

We need to understand that this particular crisis, which could very well end the American experiment, is WAY more important that any privacy issues. Period.

We need the complete report. Unredacted. All supporting documents. Unredacted.

So what if another country finds out how we monitor them, etc.

If we don't exist as a country, any issues of privacy are completely irrelevant.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
41. We must impeach to get all the Mueller report, tax returns. bank statements etc
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:15 PM
Mar 2019

Let senate republicans show how corrupt they are by failing to convict. Trump will still be exposed before the public. The name 'Trump' will be a dirty word.

spanone

(135,767 posts)
7. K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:46 AM
Mar 2019

Amen, Mr. Schiff...ask Peter Strzok or Lisa Page how they feel about that.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
8. I just heard
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:47 AM
Mar 2019

That Trump & Co are already selling T Shirts with Adam Schiff and a yellow pencil neck and other offenses. Could someone print some with orange three chins, and the animal he wears on his head, also his fat rear end. They would look good!

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
17. 👏👏👏
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:50 AM
Mar 2019

Or clips of them telling their bold face lies

When they sell fear, we provide viable fear soothing solutions

c-rational

(2,587 posts)
11. Thank you Adam Schiff. Never let up. Barr should never have been confirmed, and the fix was in
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:28 AM
Mar 2019

when he was selected. No Democratic Senator should have voted for him. But true to form this is the Dumpsters and reThuglicans playbook tactic.

myohmy2

(3,137 posts)
12. the Gutter in Chief...
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:31 AM
Mar 2019

...keeps insulting Mr. Schiff and calling him names to the delight and distraction of his followers...but Mr. Schiff seems to be staying the course and remains focused...

...as long as the only narrative out there is trumpian bullshit, MAGA Man has the Dems by the ass...

...but Adam will quickly wipe the pleasure from MAGA Man's face as he uses the whole report to grab the cheeto by the balls...

...and squeeze...

MyOwnPeace

(16,909 posts)
14. The next time
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:38 AM
Mar 2019

IQ45 says he's complete exonerated I'd love to hear someone say, "PROVE IT - RELEASE ALL OF THE MUELLER REPORT!!!!!

He's chicken-shit because he knows the truth!

cstanleytech

(26,211 posts)
15. I wonder now if Mueller could have ended his investigation on purpose now rather than closer
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:42 AM
Mar 2019

to the election because to get the report its going to take time and Trump and his people could have buried it pretty easy atleast until after the election had it been released closer to it.
Now though they do not have the luxury of a short time before the election to bury anything.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. I doubt that Mueller took into consideration anything political.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:55 AM
Mar 2019

That's just my take on the kind of person he is, from things I've heard and read about him. And one of the reasons a Special Counsel is used is to take the investigation outside of political considerations.

cstanleytech

(26,211 posts)
20. Well it's not exactly political rather it's that if he had done it and released closer to
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:05 AM
Mar 2019

the election he could be accused of trying to tamper with it like Comey succeeded in doing.
And we all saw how Trump rewarded Comey which was probably the exact opposite of what he was expecting.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. In my view, that would be a political consideration.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:12 AM
Mar 2019

Taking into account the timing of his conclusion related to the election. That's precisely what a political consideration is.

What Comey did was not comparable. Comey stepped outside the norm of handling an investigation to announce re-opening the investigation. Comey actually didn't yet know whether the investigation would be re-opened; he hadn't looked at the "new" evidence that had appeared. And second, the FBI didn't, as a matter of policy, make statements to the public about investigations. Totally different situation.

I don't think Mueller took anything into consideration other than he had gone as far as he could. The investigation was concluded. His job was over.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
16. After the clean cut
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:44 AM
Mar 2019

Way Schiff handled the mealy mouthed Republicans, shamed them publicly,politely

They looked like utter fools.

Ambassador McFaul was upset with the way Republicans tried to link him to the corruption,too. He said he had never been asked such questions. You will hear more from him.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. I am glad that Adam Schiff is leading this investigation.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:55 AM
Mar 2019

I trust his judgment.

Barr, Trump and the republicans are being so obvious about having something to hide by not releasing the report, or not releasing it in it's entirety. If Trump was completely exonerated, they would make the report public, or at least release it to congress.

It's like Trump's grades or his tax returns, if there is nothing shameful or wrong, then why go through so much trouble to keep them a secret? The fact that he tries to hide and cover up so much tells us that there are a lot of skeletons in Donny's closet that he would rather never saw the light of day.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
22. Someone said this morning (sorry I was in bed dozing) that it may take years or decades to see what
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:16 AM
Mar 2019

is in the redactions. I think it was that former prosecutor from Georgia or somewhere down south, he's got a little drawl.

That statement annoyed me so much that I woke up.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
23. Trump's "no collusion" drumbeat rings even more
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:20 AM
Mar 2019

hollow than Nixon's "I'm not a crook." We all know both lines are bullshit. Schiff's not going away, and the Repukes on the committee apparently are too stupid and/or scared to realize the "protect the orange shitstain at all costs" strategy is over.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,675 posts)
27. I watched that segment with bated breath and.....
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:48 AM
Mar 2019

hung on to every word coming from Adam Schiff. He has no intention of letting up until ALL of what is deemed important to the American people about what Mueller found, minus protections for witnesses, etc., are released. Schiff is not playing around.

Needless to say, Adam Schiff has the Republicans on the House Intel Committee squirming. He will admonish them with eloquence as he did the other day. He will make sure that there will be no false assertions of innocence on the part of Trump on this if Trump continues to personally attack him with Tweets. There is a new Sheriff in town and his name is Adam Schiff.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
30. Rec for Adam Schiff
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:01 AM
Mar 2019

But I'm just not getting into this one way or another anymore until I see it with my own eyes.

Last week they forecast a week of warm, dry weather. This week was mostly cold, cloudy and rainy. I've seen enough weather forecasts to know they're only fifty percent accurate at best.

I've seen enough of this "investigation" to come to the same conclusion.

I'll wait to see what the weather is before getting all hopeful about the forecast just to find out the weather is going to suck anyway.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
31. This is why Trump is hysterically
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:44 AM
Mar 2019

screaming that he's going to close the southern border again. Fucking loon.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
33. They should play video of the trucks delivering the Star report every 15 minutes. Hammer it home.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:49 AM
Mar 2019

Congress should conduct no business until the entire report is released. Schedule nothing except hearing on why the repost should be released. Call Keb Starr and have him testify about the importance of releasing the Mueller report.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,228 posts)
36. Schiff acknowledged and appreciated the public support
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:44 PM
Mar 2019

Rep. Schiff took note of how much public support he received after the Repugs attacked him all week.

oldsoftie

(12,481 posts)
38. But Trump keeps saying "release the report!" So do the President's bidding!
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:52 PM
Mar 2019

Whatever is legal, release it.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
42. History Lesson about a "complete and authentic resume of the report"
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:37 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:07 AM - Edit history (1)

... With his modern sense of public relations, he understood brilliantly that what matters, often, is less the substance of a political event than how the public perceives it. He also knew that journalists dread having to digest a long official report when writing against a tight deadline.

Every major paper received a document with a cover letter explaining that it was a "complete and authentic resume of the report". Delighted, nearly all the newspapers published the summary. Again and again it took major points in the report and "summarized" them beyond recognition.

The next few days they realized that the so-called summary had little to do with the report. ...

These slightly truncated words about a corrupt leader of a country misleading the press, is a story from the beginning of the last century, described in the very good book "King Leopold's Ghost":


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