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Doesn't look like Hanes or Fruit of the loom (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 OP
Tell me that's Photoshopped. LAGC Aug 2012 #1
If it is its a hell of a job Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #2
He did a mission and later served as a bishop. Definitely not a jack mormon. LeftyMom Aug 2012 #15
He is very powerful in the Mormon Church-- a Bishop/Stake President hlthe2b Aug 2012 #26
He has a fairly high rank within his church Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #36
Lots of people in high positions in religious denominations are heartless, greedy, liars. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #104
Did you read the post I was responding to? Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #118
Another Pic otohara Aug 2012 #62
And Another otohara Aug 2012 #63
Not a good idea to make fun of other peoples religion darkangel218 Aug 2012 #3
Whatever........ Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #4
You can attack that aspect, certainly. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #5
Thank you for allowing me to post Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #6
How would you like someone picking on yoir cross or star of David? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #10
Their laws keep me from getting married. Occulus Aug 2012 #88
Damn right! Iggo Aug 2012 #101
+1000! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #108
"judge you based on your Darwin fish sticker..." progressoid Aug 2012 #110
Why not? IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #8
No, theyre personal beliefs and choices darkangel218 Aug 2012 #11
OK I personally believe that those that are religious are of weak mind and character IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2012 #13
Seeing that religion has caused more harm and killed more people than Atheism, why yes IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #14
Lol youre just as hypocrite as any other type of fundamentalist. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #17
MMMM OK if you want to think that go ahead IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #19
obviously you could belcffub Aug 2012 #43
A religion is a thing kept sacred by those who believe it, when they make the choice to profane Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #44
+ 1 cordelia Aug 2012 #42
Yes. roody Aug 2012 #106
This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Aug 2012 #21
Religion is ingrained in U.S. politics ... that will never change Auggie Aug 2012 #23
Truth Hurts for some IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #24
Good bye, Joe Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #28
Yes it is weak minded IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #30
You had me until you called Joe Biden weak minded lunatica Aug 2012 #38
+1000 blueamy66 Aug 2012 #115
I've walked around with ashes on my head and could not give a shit if you think I looked silly blueamy66 Aug 2012 #114
i think we've circled around to the original point of this thread. magic underwear as silly as piratefish08 Aug 2012 #39
Only some Mormons Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #86
Bravo +!000 smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #120
Santa Claus matters to a whole heap of people as well malaise Aug 2012 #22
Wait, you mean there isn't a Santa? smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #121
No, I am not going to respect religion. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #60
Then put gas on fire and incite and continue religious hate darkangel218 Aug 2012 #61
You might want to look up the word "freedom" tridim Aug 2012 #52
magic underwear are fuckin' funny spanone Aug 2012 #89
Yeah but can't we make fun of their underwear? chknltl Aug 2012 #9
religious tolerance ends at magic undies & emeters CabCurious Aug 2012 #37
Religious tolerance ends when the religious try to pass laws aimed at making others adhere RC Aug 2012 #67
I agree with everything you said. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #68
+1 ThoughtCriminal Aug 2012 #80
Bravo! hifiguy Aug 2012 #90
we make fun of Burkas and the stuff Duggar Family wears all the time JI7 Aug 2012 #18
Or the FLDS prairie dresses LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #78
I strongly disagree. jerseyjack Aug 2012 #31
Mocking people only shows the mocker's cruelty though lunatica Aug 2012 #40
So if I mock anti gay bigots for bigoted actions, that is me being cruel? But they can cite 'faith' Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #45
Their 'faith' is a crutch they use to justify their hatred lunatica Aug 2012 #48
You are not correct the faith is not a crutch it is a cudgel. They use it as a weapon against others Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #53
Well see now, I agree with you lunatica Aug 2012 #56
Mel Brooks: Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #54
Comedy is a great weapon lunatica Aug 2012 #58
Well the target of a good spoof or satire is not likely to find laughter in it. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #123
"Us"? nt TBF Aug 2012 #41
How so? notadmblnd Aug 2012 #57
Anyone who follows/believes in the Mormon religion deserves to be ridiculed. Alduin Aug 2012 #65
Really? darkangel218 Aug 2012 #69
Did you really ask me that question? Alduin Aug 2012 #94
I musta missed the post on Harry Reid. Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #85
Anyone who believes in the teachings of Joseph Smith is an idiot. Alduin Aug 2012 #93
I think youre delusional. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #95
I'm not the one using my religion to take away the rights of others. Alduin Aug 2012 #97
Yes. progressoid Aug 2012 #111
Im not interested in judgemental hypocrites like yourself darkangel218 Aug 2012 #96
... Alduin Aug 2012 #98
Ok, so far we got Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #102
Yes. Alduin Aug 2012 #107
Not me. I make fun of everyone's religion. Codeine Aug 2012 #72
Yes. Alduin Aug 2012 #99
I GLEEFULLY make fun of EVERYONE'S religion.... mike_c Aug 2012 #76
Dont get bruises rolling on the floor lol darkangel218 Aug 2012 #79
Is it okay if I equally mock roody Aug 2012 #105
If his religion was cannibalism, would we have to respect that, too? n/t renie408 Aug 2012 #117
Bill Clinton answered the question, "Boxers or briefs?" longship Aug 2012 #7
Random fact for the day: ladies are supposed to wear their bra OVER that. LeftyMom Aug 2012 #16
I wondered about that. xmas74 Aug 2012 #47
big surprise: Romney is Mormon. eShirl Aug 2012 #20
He's totally wearing magic underwear! 6000eliot Aug 2012 #25
Magic Undies Prevent Skid Marks! IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #27
So what? rateyes Aug 2012 #29
Doesn't surprise me, I always thought he wore it MgtPA Aug 2012 #32
Actually the female looks kinda hot in.... Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #33
That explains why he walks like his underwear is chaffing his upper thighs lunatica Aug 2012 #34
The Mormon Church and Proposition 8 in California Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #35
Yep. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #46
Just keep repeating that. It's the truth lunatica Aug 2012 #49
Your whole 'humor is bad' and 'mockery is cruelty' concept is interesting. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #55
Now you're putting words in my mouth lunatica Aug 2012 #59
No offense but you are the one who failed to respond to my first post as written and went off on Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #122
Nonsense, the mockery didn't help at all. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #92
Well if I rallied people to her side and did not work, why is she a has been and Tina Fey a large Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #119
Im sorry, but thats just fucking nuts. bunnies Aug 2012 #50
Those "underwear" are HILARIOUS! WEDGIE TIME! HopeHoops Aug 2012 #51
No surprise there. Alduin Aug 2012 #64
And your point? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #66
I wonder if that's why he walks in baby steps. The pants are confining. n/t Fla Dem Aug 2012 #70
And they have to cut the mystic slits themselves? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #71
The LDS church has spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to look like a mainstream religion. Blue Idaho Aug 2012 #73
They stole the idea from the religion I was born into Hydra Aug 2012 #74
Don't care where Romneys stores his junk, MadHound Aug 2012 #75
bigotry is a human thing Enrique Aug 2012 #77
Interesting article on magic underware Cattledog Aug 2012 #81
STILL cannot believe that with all of his ' I need to save America' talk that no one has asked him AzDar Aug 2012 #82
Dunno about magic skivvies, but how about some PJs..? Bigmack Aug 2012 #83
omg, he wears it! Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #84
I didn't see the OP as mockery HeiressofBickworth Aug 2012 #87
I need to rec this ten thousand times, bc if they can LIE about Obama, LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #91
+1 eom Raine1967 Aug 2012 #100
And this doesn't look like a baseball cap. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #103
Doesn't the "rat catcher" go in back? /nt TheMadMonk Aug 2012 #109
Of course he wears The Garment obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #112
Looks as though that's from an old Buzz Feed Article csziggy Aug 2012 #113
I Keep Seeing This otohara Aug 2012 #116

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
1. Tell me that's Photoshopped.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:03 AM
Aug 2012

I never took Mittens as being a "true believer" -- always figured him for a "Jack" Mormon.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
2. If it is its a hell of a job
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:07 AM
Aug 2012

I'm not that good. We shall see if we can find the original on the web.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
15. He did a mission and later served as a bishop. Definitely not a jack mormon.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 06:02 AM
Aug 2012

His latest excuse for not showing his tax returns is that he doesn't want people talking about how much he tithes.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
26. He is very powerful in the Mormon Church-- a Bishop/Stake President
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:28 AM
Aug 2012

So, whether or not he wears the traditional underwear, he is a "true believer" one would have to think.

Romney's decades as a lay church leader -- first as bishop and later as stake president, which gave him dominion over all the church congregations in and around Boston -- shaped a man as orthodox and committed to his faith as any presidential nominee in history. It is an experience that demonstrates Romney's mastery of the institution and confidence in his authority.

http://www.heraldextra.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/religion/romney-as-mormon-church-leader-became-master-of-many-keys/article_1a5f2d4d-e1fe-597c-99f2-fed1a1804777.html
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
36. He has a fairly high rank within his church
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:21 AM
Aug 2012
http://www.heraldextra.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/religion/romney-as-mormon-church-leader-became-master-of-many-keys/article_1a5f2d4d-e1fe-597c-99f2-fed1a1804777.html

^snip^


In the back office of his Weston, Mass., headquarters a quarter century ago, Mitt Romney, the chief Mormon authority in the Boston area, told the leader of his Spanish-speaking congregation that he would not directly pay for lawyers to help the growing number of illegal immigrants in his church. Then he carefully instructed his subordinate on how to circumvent the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ new hard line against such assistance and subsidize their legal aide.

"In those issues I cannot help you financially to pay for lawyers," Romney said, according to Jose Francisco Anleu, a Guatemalan immigrant. "But what I can do is allow you to give them food assistance from the bishop's warehouse," a church welfare pantry. The money saved could be used to "pay lawyers." He reminded Anleu that he could use church funds to cover rent, utilities and health care for his needy members. The money came from Anleu's budget, but, as Anleu noted decades later, it was a budget sustained by Romney's office.

A close look at Romney's leadership in his church shows how his actions sometimes clashed with his political positions, which include advocating on the campaign trail for a policy of "self-deportation." Romney's decades as a lay church leader -- first as bishop and later as stake president, which gave him dominion over all the church congregations in and around Boston -- shaped a man as orthodox and committed to his faith as any presidential nominee in history. It is an experience that demonstrates Romney's mastery of the institution and confidence in his authority.

"Mitt's responsibilities in the church had either been teaching or supportive," said Gordon Williams, who as a Boston stake president acted as Romney's mentor and patron. "When you are a bishop, you are the lone person in the wilderness, all the responsibility is yours now." Spiritually, Williams added, "this then requires the expansion of a different element of your understanding about how to interact with people -- particularly in an ecclesiastical sense, rather than being a CEO of a company."

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
118. Did you read the post I was responding to?
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:31 AM
Aug 2012


It says -

I never took Mittens as being a "true believer" -- always figured him for a "Jack" Mormon.





I have no idea what you think I was trying to say but I think you got it wrong.
 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
10. How would you like someone picking on yoir cross or star of David?
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:36 AM
Aug 2012

Or your boss judge you based on your Darwin fish sticker you proudly display on your car?

Point is, let's try not to be hypocrites.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
88. Their laws keep me from getting married.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:18 PM
Aug 2012

Nothing I have to say about any of them can make me or any of us "hypocrites". They have done me and those like me actual, measurable harm, they have done so gleefully and with malice of forethought, and they deserve every. single. word. of. scorn.

SHAME on you for even suggesting they deserve tenderness or mercy from us. We deserve to respond, as harshly as we wish.

If you can't handle that, delicate flower that you are, I suggest you sit down, shut up, and stay the fuck out of the way. Your advice will NEVER be good advice for so long as they can do me and those like me actual, lasting harm while expecting me, their victim, to remain silent and simply bear it.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
110. "judge you based on your Darwin fish sticker..."
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:53 PM
Aug 2012

First of all having a Darwin fish does not reflect a religious belief.

Second, if someone wants to judge me because of a Darwin fish, that's fine by me. No skin off my back.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
11. No, theyre personal beliefs and choices
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:39 AM
Aug 2012

And they MATTER to people. Learn to respect it you want respect back.

 

IgnatiusReilly

(34 posts)
12. OK I personally believe that those that are religious are of weak mind and character
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:45 AM
Aug 2012

unworthy to hold ANY elected office.

Anyone who needs religion to tell them how to behave or to keep them in line lack the emotional maturity to hold an elected office.

You want to be religions, keep it to yourself, keep it out of schools, keep it out of government, keep it on private property. You put it out it public, I will mock you.


Respect that.

Response to IgnatiusReilly (Reply #12)

 

IgnatiusReilly

(34 posts)
14. Seeing that religion has caused more harm and killed more people than Atheism, why yes
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:59 AM
Aug 2012

that would be a great idea.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
44. A religion is a thing kept sacred by those who believe it, when they make the choice to profane
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:10 AM
Aug 2012

their faith by using it as a tool of politics it is they who have removed the special status from 'faith' and placed in the public square as a device of their agenda. If it was 'holy' they would keep it apart from money and power games, they don't.
The LDS promoted and paid for Prop 8 as an expression of their 'faith'. They demanded control over the lives and rights of others because of their club rules. And that's what it is, a club with club rules, nothing more.

Response to IgnatiusReilly (Reply #12)

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
23. Religion is ingrained in U.S. politics ... that will never change
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 06:35 AM
Aug 2012

I don't like it either, but to suggest all those who do have beliefs lack emotional maturity to hold elected office is a ridiculous generalization. You won't get respect that way.

 

IgnatiusReilly

(34 posts)
24. Truth Hurts for some
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:18 AM
Aug 2012

as for respect, why would anyone give a damn what anyone on the internet has to say about me or anything for that matter.

I know I don't.

What I say on the internets is what I would say to someone IRL and I don't care what people think of or about me.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
28. Good bye, Joe
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:41 AM
Aug 2012


You have been deemed 'unworthy to hold ANY elected office. '



http://www.usnews.com/listings/ten-obama-faith-moments/biden-ash-wednesday

Keep in touch..


Imagine, not even hiding it under his clothes, but sticking his faith right on his forehead.... how weak minded.




 

IgnatiusReilly

(34 posts)
30. Yes it is weak minded
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:54 AM
Aug 2012

and pretty silly putting ashes on your head thinking it will keep him safe or bless him in some way.

If Joe wants to walk around looking silly wearing ashes so be it but doing so also alienates a whole bunch of people.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
38. You had me until you called Joe Biden weak minded
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:29 AM
Aug 2012

He could easily sweep the floor with you. And he doesn't interject his beliefs into politics nor does he stuff it down anyone's throat the way you're attempting to do with your beliefs.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
114. I've walked around with ashes on my head and could not give a shit if you think I looked silly
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:19 AM
Aug 2012

or if I alienated someone.

Go do something good for someone and quit ripping on peoples' beliefs. It does a body good.

piratefish08

(3,133 posts)
39. i think we've circled around to the original point of this thread. magic underwear as silly as
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:34 AM
Aug 2012

ashey foreheads. death cross necklaces.

silly pointy hats.......


magic symbolism.




but MAN lets fuck with how silly the Mormons are huh?

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
60. No, I am not going to respect religion.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:04 AM
Aug 2012

Religion has caused, and continues to cause, more harm in this world than anything else. I will not respect people who try to force their asinine beliefs on others, especially since they're based on a poorly written dusty old book.

And btw, if you think religious people respect others, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Buh bye.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
61. Then put gas on fire and incite and continue religious hate
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:47 AM
Aug 2012

And wars. Great idea!



We as humanity need to evolve pass hate and discrimination, and learn to show respect to each other, regardless of gender, religion or sexual orientation.

Peace.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
67. Religious tolerance ends when the religious try to pass laws aimed at making others adhere
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 01:20 PM
Aug 2012

to their religious beliefs. For instance, I will eat pork on Friday if I want to, no matter what laws anyone passes. Abortion is no one's concern except the woman first and her doctor second. It's her life and her body! Another example is Sunday Closing. And if you stop and think about the list is long.

The minute a politician pushes his religious beliefs on non-believers, using his office, that should disqualify him from any elected government office.
The United States was founded as a Secular Nation, not in any way on anyone's religion!

The War On Women is biased on religion. We need to get those religious war mongers out of our government.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
68. I agree with everything you said.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 02:13 PM
Aug 2012

But how are you going to achieve that by picking on their underwear? Cmon now.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
90. Bravo!
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:24 PM
Aug 2012
Believe whatever silly Bronze Age bullshit you want to. As Jefferson said, it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. Try to make the law over in its batshit image, and you will have a fight on your hands. An epic fight.
 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
31. I strongly disagree.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:54 AM
Aug 2012

The wars, hate, and hurt carried on because of religious bullshit will only stop when people recognize the incongruity of what they say they believe and what they, deep down, know cannot be possibly true.

Humor and ridicule go a long way towards waking people up

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
40. Mocking people only shows the mocker's cruelty though
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:35 AM
Aug 2012

Do you really think it's your duty to 'wake people up' by using mockery? And if you really think you have any power whatsoever over what others believe you're seriously deluded. So what is worse? Belief in a higher entity or delusion?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
45. So if I mock anti gay bigots for bigoted actions, that is me being cruel? But they can cite 'faith'
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:15 AM
Aug 2012

as reason for their actions, spending millions to strip others of their rights with impunity, because anyone saying anything against religion is just 'cruel'? Puh-lease. They use their 'faith' to attack others, that makes the 'faith' a device of politics, no longer sacred. They made that choice.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
48. Their 'faith' is a crutch they use to justify their hatred
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:34 AM
Aug 2012

I think you should mock them and the hatred in their hearts and tell them to stop using their 'faith' as a crutch for their own sub-human behavior. Don't mock their religion. Mock their individual interpretation of that religion. You'll never get anywhere by telling them they believe in a myth, unless you want their hatred to grow even more. And no matter how smart you are you have no idea if there is a God or not. You just 'believe' there isn't and you rely on your 'faith' too.

I assume you do want to win the argument right? Mocking people's religious crutches never won anything but enmity. Mocking their behavior, on the other hand, is using solid facts.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. You are not correct the faith is not a crutch it is a cudgel. They use it as a weapon against others
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:49 AM
Aug 2012

And of course it is their actions that we mock. They are the ones who degrade and mock their faith when they take that which they claim is holy to them and use it as a tool of worldly agenda. It is not my job to keep their religion sacred, that is their job, and it is the LDS who dragged their faith into politics in the most hateful of ways. They use their faith like Rove uses a list of contacts, and that converts the 'faith' into just another political organization.
They use the 'faith' as an excuse for their behavior, and you say that excuse is theirs to use with impunity. I do not agree with you. I do not agree that if a person calls their weapons 'religion' others must not defend themselves from attacks using that weapon.
And you know, you do not know nor did you ask what I believe. I am speaking of human behavior, not of the existence or non existence of God. I never said I'm smart, I never said myth, I never said there is no God. Those are words you put into my mouth. I said they altered that which they claimed was sacred to them into a profane thing by their behavior they used their 'faith' in ways which degrade it to the level of any other political tool. If they want the 'faith' to be respected, they need to keep it out of politics. This is a faith, LDS that does not allow others to see their rituals at all. Yet they use those dogmas openly to attack others.
I do not agree that if a person calls their weapons 'religion' others must not defend themselves from attacks using that weapon.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
56. Well see now, I agree with you
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:57 AM
Aug 2012

So why use mockery? Your argument is quite compelling, and some of it, like the part about them using their faith to act out their personal hatred is a great way to fight them with their own actions instead of attacking their religion.

and I do apologize for assuming you're an atheist.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
54. Mel Brooks:
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:54 AM
Aug 2012

"Rhetoric does not get you anywhere, because Hitler and Mussolini are just as good at rhetoric. But if you can bring these people down with comedy, they stand no chance."

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
58. Comedy is a great weapon
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:59 AM
Aug 2012

Mockery, on the other hand is cruel and vicious. I think they're very different things. Comedy is meant to bring laughter to something taken way too seriously. Mockery isn't.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
123. Well the target of a good spoof or satire is not likely to find laughter in it.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:16 AM
Aug 2012

Mel Brooks again: "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die."
The point being no humor about vicious bigots is going to amuse the vicious bigots. They will cry 'mockery, liars, how dare you'. Because they do not like being the punchline. The truth of the humor will offend them, which is sort of the point.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
69. Really?
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Aug 2012

How is Mormonism more kookoo than any other religion or belief?

See, that's why fundies laugh at us sometimes, cuz were not any better than them when it comes to hypocritical judgement.
Maybe we should start with ourselves before labeling and crucifying others.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
85. I musta missed the post on Harry Reid.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 06:45 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/28/what-is-harry-reids-religion/

What is Harry Reid's religion?

Reid is a Mormon.

What has Harry Reid said about Mormonism?

In a speech to the students of Brigham Young University, Reid said, "I also say that my faith and political beliefs are deeply intertwined. I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it."


Let the mockery commence.........


Go ahead.. I'll catch up.







 

Alduin

(501 posts)
93. Anyone who believes in the teachings of Joseph Smith is an idiot.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:07 PM
Aug 2012

I don't care if they have a (D) or (R) next to their name.

 

Alduin

(501 posts)
97. I'm not the one using my religion to take away the rights of others.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:16 PM
Aug 2012

I'm not the one that needs to grow up.

You won't change my mind on this. Ever.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
102. Ok, so far we got
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:50 PM
Aug 2012

Joe Biden is weak minded
and Harry Reid is an idiot.


Lotta love on Democratic Underground. Feel the tolerance.

Oh, by the by, has anyone brought up the Eucharist yet?

I can't wait for that one....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist#Catholic

The Catholic Church teaches that when the bread and wine are consecrated in the Eucharist, they cease to be bread and wine, and become the body and blood of Christ,[39] each of which is accompanied by the other and by Christ's soul and divinity.[40] The empirical appearance and physical properties are not changed, but for Catholics, the reality is.





I mean, really. Shouldn't any politician, hell any human being be considered a little nuts for believing they are eating human flesh, and drinking blood? Ok, granted, divine flesh and blood, but really?

 

Alduin

(501 posts)
107. Yes.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:11 PM
Aug 2012

Joseph Smith believed Jesus was in America and Israel actually existed in the US. An angel named Moroni showed Smith where the golden plates were in NY, which he translated.

Anyone who believes that is an idiot.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
72. Not me. I make fun of everyone's religion.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 02:41 PM
Aug 2012

Islam, Judaism, bog-standard Christianity -- all just as goofy and stupid as Mormonism.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Bill Clinton answered the question, "Boxers or briefs?"
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:30 AM
Aug 2012

I want somebody to ask Mitt that same question during the debates. Obama would answer straight away. With Mitt the stumbling and stammering would go on and on and on and on...

Please let Candy Crowley ask it. Puleeeeze!

on edit: Big Dawg answered "boxers"

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
16. Random fact for the day: ladies are supposed to wear their bra OVER that.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 06:09 AM
Aug 2012

A rule that, I suspect, was invented by somebody whose primary experience with female bodies was a meaningful relationship with the Sears Catalog.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
47. I wondered about that.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:17 AM
Aug 2012

I thought it would be under so the bra actually works as support. Then again, I guess you wouldn't get whatever benefits you're supposed to get from the garments if they cover other garments that touch your skin instead of directly touching the skin.

I guess one positive is that she wouldn't have to worry about whether she should wear a slip with a light colored or light weight material dress. She could wear a white cotton dress on a sunny day and nothing would shine through.

 

IgnatiusReilly

(34 posts)
27. Magic Undies Prevent Skid Marks!
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:29 AM
Aug 2012

No way the supreme being would allow the faithful to get skid marks.

Skid marks are for the heathens!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. That explains why he walks like his underwear is chaffing his upper thighs
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:17 AM
Aug 2012

He's trying to keep the friction down to a minimum.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
55. Your whole 'humor is bad' and 'mockery is cruelty' concept is interesting.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:57 AM
Aug 2012

Did you oppose Tina Fey for mocking the life out of Sarah Palin? "I can see Russia from my house!" was one of the lines that helped us defeat her. Harsh mockery of her, not her policies, of her. "I'm going to use a lifeline Katie".......

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
59. Now you're putting words in my mouth
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:03 AM
Aug 2012

Let me reiterate the essence of what I said in response to another of your posts. Humor is good. It is designed to elicit laughter about something that's taken away too seriously. Mockery isn't.

Please try to read what is written.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
122. No offense but you are the one who failed to respond to my first post as written and went off on
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:02 AM
Aug 2012

me about mocking 'the faith'. My first post said :
'So if I mock anti gay bigots for bigoted actions, that is me being cruel?"
All about their actions, not the beliefs, and your reply was 'I assume you do want to win the argument right? Mocking people's religious crutches never won anything but enmity. Mocking their behavior, on the other hand, is using solid facts."
I never once said 'mock their faith' I said mock their behaviors.
So who was not reading what was written? Re read the thread, I said 'if I mock them for bigoted actions'
You simply went off on me for things I did not say. I said 'behavior' and I said 'actions' and I listed a few of those actions. In response you said 'don't mock their faith'. Which is not related to what I said. At all. Additionally, you failed to address what I actually said.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
92. Nonsense, the mockery didn't help at all.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:26 PM
Aug 2012

It rallied people to her side. The dumb fucking words out of her mouth beat her. Voters don't like bullies.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
119. Well if I rallied people to her side and did not work, why is she a has been and Tina Fey a large
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:53 AM
Aug 2012

network star and producer? What a strange theory you have. She lost, they lost, but there was a rally to her side over jokes? That's funny stuff you write there. Really absurd.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
50. Im sorry, but thats just fucking nuts.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:43 AM
Aug 2012

Batshit, loonybin, crazy. If some guy on the street was wondering around talking about magic underwear everyone would the he was insane. Attach it to "religion" and suddenly I'm supposed to respect it. Alrighty then.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
66. And your point?
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 12:14 PM
Aug 2012

Oh wait, Kennedy was going to be the Popes servant.

There are many things to be critical of Romney...by the way.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
73. The LDS church has spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to look like a mainstream religion.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 03:03 PM
Aug 2012

Sadly, they spend more on PR, shopping malls, condos, supporting conservative legislation, and dunking the dead than on helping the poor. They have actively disappeared big chunks of their history to look more acceptable. They practice "lying for the lord" to keep the truth about their less savory beliefs from non-believers.

They are a corporate cult.

Willard is a true believer and he will take his marching orders from Salt Lake if elected.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
74. They stole the idea from the religion I was born into
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:51 PM
Aug 2012

And they built it into an even bigger business.

One day the Temple in SLC will be as powerful and iconic as the Vatican...what a horrid thought.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
75. Don't care where Romneys stores his junk,
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:55 PM
Aug 2012

It is what he wants to do to this country that matters, not whether he wheres boxers, briefs or a thong.

Having Democrats and liberals attacking Romney over his religious practice makes us look as mean and petty as those on the right who are birthers or go after Rev. Wright. We should be better than that.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
82. STILL cannot believe that with all of his ' I need to save America' talk that no one has asked him
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:52 PM
Aug 2012

about the "White Horse Prophecy" of the Mormon Church...

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
87. I didn't see the OP as mockery
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 06:54 PM
Aug 2012

I saw it as confirmation that Romney is devout in his faith and because he wears the symbols of his faith (the underwear), he would bring the tenants of his religion to the way he would govern. That means that we MUST investigate the Mormon beliefs, beginning with the one that says a Mormon will be elected to the White House and will take orders from the LDS elders. This and other Mormon dogma is very serious information we need in order to base a voting decision.

John F. Kennedy was also feared in the beginning because of his Catholic faith. He was asked about where his loyalties would be if he became President. He gave an answer to sufficiently allayed the fears and convinced the voters that his loyalties were with the United States and the Constitution and laws of the US. Romney has not made such a statement which leaves the question open.

So, examination of his demonstrations of faith has a real place in the investigation of his worthiness, goals and plans for the Presidency. For me, based on what I've read about the faith and what I know from my own experience, I would never vote for him. But then, I would never vote Republican anyway.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
91. I need to rec this ten thousand times, bc if they can LIE about Obama,
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:25 PM
Aug 2012

we can tell the truth about them.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
112. Of course he wears The Garment
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:09 AM
Aug 2012

He is a devout, well-respected Mormon, who has been through the Temple and was an LDS Bishop. It would only be newsworthy if he DIDN"T wear The Garment.

Hey, as per LDS Powers That Be, the Garment can stop bullets!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
113. Looks as though that's from an old Buzz Feed Article
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:14 AM
Aug 2012
A Brief Guide To “Mormon Underwear”

Your awkward Mitt Romney questions answered.
McKay Coppins BuzzFeed Staff
Posted Jan 25, 2012 1:19pm EST

It's perhaps the most awkward question of the 2012 cycle: What's with Mitt Romney's underwear?

The subject of long-running public curiosity, the subject occasionally pops back into the foreground, as with a widely-retweeted image earlier this year (top), and footage of the candidate in Florida this week.

From the start of Romney's career as a public figure--and, in many ways, well before then--the special undergarment worn by many observant Mormon men and women has been a point of political curiosity, debate, and derision. While provocateurs and bloggers make jokes about "magic Mormon undies," anti-Mormons try to cast the garment as something more sinister--a bizarre symbol of its wearers' fealty to a scary, secretive cult. The reality is far less exciting.

More: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/a-brief-guide-to-mormon-underwear
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