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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:34 AM Aug 2012

Lawmaker who thinks gays a threat to children crashes boat into children

A homophobic Maryland lawmaker has admitted to being drunk when he accidentally crashed his boat into a boat full of children.

Maryland delegate Don H. Dwyer Jr was drinking with another man on his boat on the Magothy River in Pasadena around 7pm when his boat struck a smaller vessel with five children on board.Four of the children were injured with one, a five year old girl, taken by helicopter to Baltimore’s Johns Hopkins Children’s Center.

Two adults on the boat were unharmed.The smash was so severe that Dwyer’s boat sunk in the river.Dwyer later admitted to having a blood alcohol level of 0.2 – twice the legal limit.


Dwyer, a Tea Party Republican, has in the past suggested that homosexuals were a threat to children and that same-sex marriage would lead to homosexuality being taught in schools.

Dwyer has previously attempted to ban same-sex marriage in Maryland by attaching an amendment to a bill on marriage license fees and sought the sacking or impeachment of public officials who have made decisions that were supportive of same-sex couples having the right to marry.

Earlier this year Dwyer supported a ballot measure to strip lawmakers of their office when found guilty of serious crimes which Maryland voters will decide on in November.

If Dwyer is found to have committed an offense and the ballot initiative is successful he may find himself out of office under the law.


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Lawmaker who thinks gays a threat to children crashes boat into children (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 OP
For the USCG the limit is 0.04 Turbineguy Aug 2012 #1
Maybe for a commercial licence, but for recreational watercraft it's still .08 Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #33
du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #2
He was on the boat with another man, eh? Hells Liberal Aug 2012 #3
See, that's a right wing meme in itself, one that good people reject... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #6
He's a hypocritical republican? BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #10
ummmm behrstar Aug 2012 #11
Oh yes they will accept it - TBF Aug 2012 #13
It was a bad call... I hope the poster removes or edits it Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #16
As is the same situation chervilant Aug 2012 #20
Yes - that is true as well. nt TBF Aug 2012 #28
Homophobic? Maybe You’re Gay Loudestlib Aug 2012 #22
Because two straight men have never gone out on a boat drinking together. yardwork Aug 2012 #18
That's quite a leap in conclusions Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #23
It's no more a leap in conclusions Hells Liberal Aug 2012 #29
The passenger was John E. Moran IV, a former police officer who narrowly lost an election for madinmaryland Aug 2012 #27
I don't know if they were gay or not. Hells Liberal Aug 2012 #34
The irony is almost ferromagnetic. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2012 #4
And that rocktivity Aug 2012 #14
Are the kids ok? The article says that one was air-lifted by helicopter to Johns Hopkins. yardwork Aug 2012 #19
Unfortunately the 5-year-old has a fractured skull LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #31
Was he arrested for Boating While Intoxicated? Ilsa Aug 2012 #5
Maybe his church helped him make bail Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #7
I'm sure he was arrested, nobody gets away with running down children while drunk, I hope. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #17
I wonder how mixing alcohol and a motor boat accident will not be found an offense... I suppose if midnight Aug 2012 #8
So, his boat sank. Big f'n deal. The kids - I hope they are all OK. mwooldri Aug 2012 #9
Wouldn't that be nice? Fingers crossed! Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #12
Well, he's safe ... they weren't fetuses ... zbdent Aug 2012 #15
I went to a different article: Ilsa Aug 2012 #21
Glad the kids weren't seriously hurt and Hopkins is a great institution... mike dub Aug 2012 #24
I am assuming at least one may have been seriously hurt. Did I Just Type This Aug 2012 #25
The 5-year-old has a skull fracture nt LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #32
Karma....... louis-t Aug 2012 #26
he can look forward to lots of lawsuits from the parents. no sympathy for a hate monger Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #30

Brother Buzz

(36,374 posts)
33. Maybe for a commercial licence, but for recreational watercraft it's still .08
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:18 PM
Aug 2012

The Federal Government's statutes and regulations regarding Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) limits related to Operators of Recreational Watercraft specify a 0.08 per se rule for all Federal waterways except "within the geographical boundaries of any State that has established" a separate and different BAC limit. In those cases, "… a standard established by State statute … is applicable to the operation of any recreational vessel on waters within the geographical boundaries of the State."

 

Hells Liberal

(88 posts)
3. He was on the boat with another man, eh?
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:22 AM
Aug 2012

Let me guess, their wives and kids weren't with them.

He sounds like another right-wing, heavily closeted homophobe. He was probably too busy practicing his "wide stance" to notice he was about to kill those kids.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. See, that's a right wing meme in itself, one that good people reject...
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:40 AM
Aug 2012

Your theory that he could not be heterosexual AND a rotten rat fink so that he MUST be closeted is just so fucked up, so old and tired, that few on DU will accept such bigoted and backward crap.
I mean, let's be specific. What about him 'sounds' as if he's really gay? You claim he sounds like another of them. What elements in this story preclude his heterosexuality?

behrstar

(64 posts)
11. ummmm
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:11 AM
Aug 2012

Lets start with his obsession with homosexuality. Nasty perv can't stop thinking about what I do with my husband in the privacy of our own home (And he's jealous). And then (nothing to do with homosexuality) he offers prayers and asks for forgiveness. Nice touch.

TBF

(32,003 posts)
13. Oh yes they will accept it -
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:17 AM
Aug 2012

"A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:02 AM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE"

I won't take it to Meta because I really hate that forum, but this kind of stuff goes on every day at this website and various stealth trolls get away with it.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
20. As is the same situation
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:40 AM
Aug 2012

with sexism. Apparently, it's okay to be sexist, as long as it is directed toward Republican women...

Loudestlib

(980 posts)
22. Homophobic? Maybe You’re Gay
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:08 AM
Aug 2012

"In this month’s issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, we and our fellow researchers provide empirical evidence that homophobia can result, at least in part, from the suppression of same-sex desire."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html?ref=opinion

Stinky The Clown

(67,761 posts)
23. That's quite a leap in conclusions
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:18 AM
Aug 2012

How does two men being on a small, cabinless runabout boat on a normally crowded, narrow, highly visible waterway imply they are gay?

Yes, there are many self loathing, self-denying, probably closeted gay people. Nothing in this story points to that. The man is what he appears to be - a right wing bigot and hater. He may be more, but nothing in this story - and certainly nothing in the fact you cite - points to his being gay.

Welcome to DU.

 

Hells Liberal

(88 posts)
29. It's no more a leap in conclusions
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:12 PM
Aug 2012

than the way repubs assume President Obama is not really American or that I and all my fellow liberals, progressives and Democrats are all Communists, or that we're using climate change as an excuse to bring down American business.

When the repubs decide to act like civilized people and debate in an honest fashion, I'll return the courtesy. But if they're going to cast aspersions, then they better be ready when we offer our speculations on their behaviors.

Besides, it's not like there aren't any precedents for homophobic repubs to turn out to be closeted, self-loathing gays. (Sarcasm).

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
27. The passenger was John E. Moran IV, a former police officer who narrowly lost an election for
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:41 AM
Aug 2012

Anne Arundel County Sheriff in 2006.

Just because two men are on a boat together, doesn't mean they are gay.


 

Hells Liberal

(88 posts)
34. I don't know if they were gay or not.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

I'll admit, I'm just speculating. But they are a couple of right-wing homophobes and those people tend to be self-loathing closet cases.

Which means I have more to base my speculation on that the birthers do for their aspersions.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
14. And that
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:19 AM
Aug 2012
...(e)arlier this year Dwyer supported a ballot measure to strip lawmakers of their office when found guilty of serious crimes which Maryland voters will decide on in November.

If Dwyer is found to have committed an offense and the ballot initiative is successful he may find himself out of office under the law.


rocktivity
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
31. Unfortunately the 5-year-old has a fractured skull
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:03 PM
Aug 2012

Let's all hope she recovers quickly and completely

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
5. Was he arrested for Boating While Intoxicated?
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:34 AM
Aug 2012

Alot of states treat drunken boat drivers as severely as drunken auto driving. He should be arrested and charged with a felony, especially since those kids were hurt.

I didn't see it in the article.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. Maybe his church helped him make bail
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:46 AM
Aug 2012

but you are right.... HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED
if we did that we would have been.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
8. I wonder how mixing alcohol and a motor boat accident will not be found an offense... I suppose if
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:53 AM
Aug 2012

a Republican does it, it is a human error that is being politically prosecuted...

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
9. So, his boat sank. Big f'n deal. The kids - I hope they are all OK.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:54 AM
Aug 2012

Johns Hopkins is a brilliant hospital - I hope the girl gets on the mend soon. If Mr. Dwyer identifies as being "pro life", his actions were certainly not promoting and preserving life.

Intoxicated people are far more dangerous to children than sober ones. Sexual or gender identity has absolutely nothing to do with it. There is a reason why alcoholic beverages are advertised as "please drink responsibly".

Mr. Dwyer Jr. needs to man up and take some responsibility for this. A resignation may be in order here... he got the ballot initiative onto the ballot, he supports it, and since he has committed a serious crime, he needs to be held up to his own standards, no matter what the election in November brings.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
21. I went to a different article:
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:45 AM
Aug 2012

""The cause of the collision is still under investigation," Albert said. "A number of investigators are on a fact-finding mission.""

And:

""Pending the analysis, DNR police will determine what charges — if any — will be filed, Albert said.

"We're in no hurry to expedite the investigation," Albert said. "It takes a long time to reconstruct an accident that occurs on the water, we have both vessels and we don't think any of the parties are going anywhere.""

mike dub

(541 posts)
24. Glad the kids weren't seriously hurt and Hopkins is a great institution...
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:24 AM
Aug 2012

And the kids and their parents, & Dwyer and passenger are lucky both boats were shut down after the accident (Dwyer's is down permanently) and that apparently no one was ejected into the water.

My friends were powerboating when they were broadsided by a powerboat pulling a waterskier (driver looking rearward to observe skier and drive at same time). One of my friends was ejected from the helm of his boat into the water, sending his boat into a "death spiral": engine at 3/4 throttle and wheel hard-over, and boat and propeller making concentric circles in the water.

As my friend's boat inched closer to him, helpless in the water, the driver of the boat that hit my friend's boat purposely collided into my friend's boat Again, to knock its churning propeller away from my friend bobbing in the water. The waterskier was down in the water too, and in peril as well.

So many things can go way wrong with people drinking (or in just driving distracted) and then operating a boat.

 
25. I am assuming at least one may have been seriously hurt.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:34 AM
Aug 2012

Last time i checked, the emergency crews don't make it a habit of air lifting people with minor injuries.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
30. he can look forward to lots of lawsuits from the parents. no sympathy for a hate monger
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 07:14 PM
Aug 2012

glad no one died from his drunkedness

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