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Question: IF Barr did what we know he did, would this make tRUMP a co-conspirator? (Original Post) bluestarone Apr 2019 OP
Technically, Trump can pardon co-conspirators. marylandblue Apr 2019 #1
tRUMP as a co-conspirator can STILL pardon BARR? bluestarone Apr 2019 #2
Yes, it's a plenary power, meaning no real limits. marylandblue Apr 2019 #5
it's extremely unlikely that a presidential pardon would be deemed invalid unblock Apr 2019 #6
It sure as hell makes Barr a co-conspirator. Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #3
Fully agree! bluestarone Apr 2019 #4

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. Technically, Trump can pardon co-conspirators.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:31 AM
Apr 2019

The limits of pardon have never been tested. At this point, it's not even clear anyone would have standing to contest a pardon.

bluestarone

(22,465 posts)
2. tRUMP as a co-conspirator can STILL pardon BARR?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:36 AM
Apr 2019

I thought that IF he is a co-conspirator he COULD NOT pardon? Just trying to understand the process. TY

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. Yes, it's a plenary power, meaning no real limits.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:45 AM
Apr 2019

Bush I pardoned the Iran Contra conspirators. Some say he was a conspirator, but that was never proven, and it never went to court.

Any court challenge now is uncharted territory.

unblock

(56,262 posts)
6. it's extremely unlikely that a presidential pardon would be deemed invalid
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:46 AM
Apr 2019

as long is it related to a federal crime that already happened (he can't pardon future crimes or non-federal crimes).

the only sort-of question is whether or not he can pardon himself. i think that's a clear no, but i'll grant that it's a fair issue.


now, once he does grant a pardon to a co-conspirator, that could be deemed a high crime and misdemeanor that he could be impeached and removed for. it could even be deemed to be an obstruction of justice or part of a witness tampering case against the president (e.g., if the pardon was a payoff for lying).

but the pardon would still stand, even if the president then goes to prison for having granted it.

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