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DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:46 PM Apr 2019

If you could go back in time to Election Day 2016

If you could go back in time to Election Day 2016 KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW TODAY and change the outcome by doing whatever it takes to flip enough votes in key states to give Hillary not only the popular vote but the Electoral College as well - would you do it?

I would, without even thinking about it. Anything to negate this nightmare and prevent it from continuing until 2024 and likely beyond.

Knowing trump stole the election in 2016, shouldn't we do whatever it takes to win on Election Day 2020?

Damn right we should. Or we could just keep polishing our halos and lose again.

I'm for winning. Whatever it takes. And I don't mind getting a little dirty to win over these traitors.

I'd wear my dirt as a badge of honor.

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If you could go back in time to Election Day 2016 (Original Post) DirtEdonE Apr 2019 OP
I do what I can do. I did what I could do in 2016. And in 2020, struggle4progress Apr 2019 #1
+1 rampartc Apr 2019 #2
Do the ends justify the means DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #3
There is no magic, and everything worth having takes some work struggle4progress Apr 2019 #6
I have nothing but distain Little Star Apr 2019 #4
Would that the popular vote determined the winner DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #5
I tried. ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #7
I don't understand the question. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #8
Actually we'd have to go back to 10 days prior when gldstwmn Apr 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author clementine613 Apr 2019 #10

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
1. I do what I can do. I did what I could do in 2016. And in 2020,
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:52 PM
Apr 2019

I'll again do what I can do

But I do think the methods we use always affect the world we get as a result

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
3. Do the ends justify the means
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:57 PM
Apr 2019

Do the ends justify the means when the ends are defeating pure evil?

I don't like to cheat. I've been told I'm too honest many times throughout my life. But this is different. We can't affect the world we get from the results until the results are in our favor and we might never get another chance if we lose this time.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
6. There is no magic, and everything worth having takes some work
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:19 PM
Apr 2019

You can decide what you do, but don't sow briars where you want to harvest wheat

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
4. I have nothing but distain
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:57 PM
Apr 2019

for today's Electoral College System. It is a outdated mode for electing our presidents. Bunch of muckity-mucks making our choice for us.

Give me a popular vote system where each party would have to adjust their thinking and philosophy in order to win.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
5. Would that the popular vote determined the winner
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019

We'd have President Clinton today.

But we are handcuffed by the system as it is and it looks as though it would take a constitutional amendment to change it.

We need to focus on winning. They're going to cheat again because cheating is the only way they can win. We need to be prepared and do whatever it takes to counter their tactics.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
8. I don't understand the question.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:44 PM
Apr 2019

It seems to be would you go back and do everything you could to change it? I did everything I could. Within reason anyway. I don't know what else we could do to change the outcome of an election that was outright stolen... please don't anyone try to convince me that isn't what happened.In addition to GOTV activities I pleaded with my liberal friends to vote blue. In the end too many of them for my taste decided not to do that. Many of them fell victim to the propaganda. This coupled with the voter suppression tactics and voting machine shenanigans is what stole the election from us if not outright changing of votes which I am NOT convinced didn't happen.

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