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Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:15 AM Apr 2019

Trump's attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar, with the 43 second clip, could be the end of Trump.

Last edited Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:09 AM - Edit history (2)

Of course, it is just 43 seconds. But the way it is portrayed, it is a vicious attack that in some ways creates violence.
Trump, as President of the United States, has attacked a member of Congress using this video. It crosses every single reasonable line of decency. Trump has hurt himself more than he knows.. This could do it. Hard to believe that anyone would use this as an attack. Trump created this, it, and is an awful mistake on his part. Trump will not apologize. It steps over the edge of decency, and guess what? Everyone knows it. Because everyone knows it, and everyone knows the intent of this, Trump has done it to himself.

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Trump's attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar, with the 43 second clip, could be the end of Trump. (Original Post) Stuart G Apr 2019 OP
Problem is, the hardest 30 percent base will only cheer it on. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2019 #1
I think that 70 percent will see this for what it is: vicious attack on a sitting member of Congress Stuart G Apr 2019 #7
You have more faith in the American people than I do krawhitham Apr 2019 #56
I would even go so far as to say that this constitutes yet another impeachable offense!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #83
The base will always be pro Trump, 43% poll numbers means sarcasmo Apr 2019 #8
Thay have and continue BadGimp Apr 2019 #64
Wet Kiss? TruckFump Apr 2019 #69
Well, it should be but probably won't be Siwsan Apr 2019 #2
I unfortunately agree with you. volstork Apr 2019 #37
Sadly, I agree NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #45
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #78
Agreed. He's already crossed over every red line short of actual murder. Texin Apr 2019 #49
His base will go absolutely nuts with this. I fully expect some mouth COLGATE4 Apr 2019 #3
Yep, he basically gave the marching orders to attack. The ass is a monster of wretched RKP5637 Apr 2019 #9
That would be grossly unfair to the sewer... COLGATE4 Apr 2019 #14
Yep, it would be. And they would end up permanently blocked he has so much sh**! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2019 #30
LIke I said we are WAY past the point of fixing this, there will not be a way to fix this Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #53
None of this is probably going to end well, so many brainwashed hostile people and RKP5637 Apr 2019 #57
A brown skinned man with the name Obama drove them completely insane to the point Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #59
What a POS that POS is. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #4
tRump, has brought the Oval Office down to the level of a really sleazy bar and cheap bar room talk. RKP5637 Apr 2019 #5
His minions won't care n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #6
... and his ratings will likely go up. It's all so damn pathetic. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2019 #11
It cannot be allowed. Everyone must protest this. Every single member of Congress... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #10
I agree completely...and it will force Republicans to stand up to Trump. Stuart G Apr 2019 #17
The line... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #23
Just checked...zero Republicans condemning him Bettie Apr 2019 #36
No it won't. Stop smoking whatever you're smoking bitterross Apr 2019 #12
Claiming that most immigrants were rapists and murderers should have been the end of Trump. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2019 #13
It's not even going to make a dent. Aristus Apr 2019 #15
NOTHING will stop him elfin Apr 2019 #16
Yes he will continue to do that, so if we win in 2020, our work will be marylandblue Apr 2019 #25
He's an mean-spirited and ugly fellow struggle4progress Apr 2019 #18
Oh Come On Now People..... global1 Apr 2019 #19
Wake up. This is the way of the authoritarian leader. marylandblue Apr 2019 #20
+1000 VOX Apr 2019 #79
Trump hating on anyone will never be the end of Trump BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #21
I Think It Is Time for Him to Actually Shoot Someone on 5th Ave, Just to Prove the Point! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #22
Trump is Done!!!! sarisataka Apr 2019 #24
baked riversedge Apr 2019 #35
He appears to be indestructable Bettie Apr 2019 #26
This will NOT BE THE END OF TRUMP. pangaia Apr 2019 #27
Sorry, but the sad truth is Trumpists enjoy 45's psycho-hate. VOX Apr 2019 #28
LOL the end of rump...this little ole thing? Please. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #29
Don't get your hopes up. He did this for his cult and they're loving it. Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #31
Trump's attack on Ilhan Omar sokpupet Apr 2019 #32
yes! handmade34 Apr 2019 #47
My opinion, I think t-rump is on his way out . . . Iliyah Apr 2019 #33
Unless several Senate Republicans speak out against this, he has nothing to worry about. LonePirate Apr 2019 #34
This might be the end, that might be the end... nah hurple Apr 2019 #38
Oh good grief! leftofcool Apr 2019 #39
No kidding. The GOP at-large agree with him regardless of whether they say it out loud themselves. Texin Apr 2019 #50
He steps over the edge of decency every day. murielm99 Apr 2019 #40
I'd go so far as to say Fox and hate radio have created NoMoreRepugs Apr 2019 #41
Is this a joke? Who is going to do what when? Nt Ninga Apr 2019 #42
I got news for ya, Stuart. America doesn't give a shit. Stinky The Clown Apr 2019 #43
Many in America do give a shit. Many do not. I believe there are millions who do give a shit. Stuart G Apr 2019 #67
Like you, I am often wrong. I hope I'm wrong on this one, but I don't think so. Stinky The Clown Apr 2019 #68
I'll believe it when I see it. GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #44
Done what? Thumbed his nose at democracy yet again? PatrickforO Apr 2019 #46
Good joke. Funny stuff. TeamPooka Apr 2019 #48
Nah, just another straw in the pile. The only thing that will break his back is defeat him bigtime KPN Apr 2019 #51
Please share a link of this clip. Thx zaj Apr 2019 #52
not even close AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #54
No, it won't... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #55
His base loves it blue cat Apr 2019 #58
The end of Trump? This is a blip on the radar for a few days. hughee99 Apr 2019 #60
The end of Trump won't come until we vote him out. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #61
if by end of Trump qazplm135 Apr 2019 #62
Here is a link to this 43 second video from YouTube jimmyzvoice Apr 2019 #63
Thank You for posting this. K and R your putting up the 43 sec video.. Stuart G Apr 2019 #66
No it won't. RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #65
No one know the future.. Sure, we have hunches and ideas.. Stuart G Apr 2019 #71
That is very very doubtful... Raine Apr 2019 #70
I apologize...sorry..I do not know what you are referring to..Could you please explain.. Stuart G Apr 2019 #72
that Trump's attack on Omar won't come close to Raine Apr 2019 #73
Thank You for the explanation. I appreciate it. Stuart G Apr 2019 #74
Hopefully so ck4829 Apr 2019 #75
No way. Tipperary Apr 2019 #76
Are you joking? jberryhill Apr 2019 #77
Lol, no. cwydro Apr 2019 #80
everything you said is correct...and the Republicans won't do one thing about it. nt raccoon Apr 2019 #81
I'd have to look at all the other lines he's crossed KayF Apr 2019 #82

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
1. Problem is, the hardest 30 percent base will only cheer it on.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:17 AM
Apr 2019

To them, he's telling off that Muslim terrorist woman! (Begin obligatory USA chant)

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
7. I think that 70 percent will see this for what it is: vicious attack on a sitting member of Congress
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:23 AM
Apr 2019

This attack is illegal and unethical. It will become the centerpiece of the impeachment of Trump. He doesn't know it, but Trump has made a mistake unlike any other. He has a very short time to apologize, maybe the rest of today, but he won't. He will be told to apologize, but he won't. Donald Trump doesn't have a clue.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
83. I would even go so far as to say that this constitutes yet another impeachable offense!!
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 10:28 AM
Apr 2019

Calling for violence against a member of Congress... how is that NOT impeachable?!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
2. Well, it should be but probably won't be
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:18 AM
Apr 2019

I'm beginning to think there isn't anything, he could do, that would be the tipping point for the GOP.

volstork

(5,403 posts)
37. I unfortunately agree with you.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:24 AM
Apr 2019

This asshole has crossed so many lines that would have meant the swift and certain downfall of anyone else.

It says so much about the mental state of his base that they support this vile cretin, and about the complicity of congress that they do nothing. Yes, I'm including Democrats as well; they (we) should be raising all holy hell after what has gone down this week, and are just sitting up there with their thumbs up their asses.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
45. Sadly, I agree
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:45 AM
Apr 2019

Him coming down the Escalator to start his campaign and saying that Mexico was sending criminals and rapists should have been the end of him.

Him "paying" people to get bused into his initial rallies should have been the end of him.

Him insulting John McCain or mocking a handicapped reporter should have been the end of him.

His business record should have been the end of him.

His 6 bankruptcies should have been the end of him.

His not releasing his taxes should have been the end of him.

The Trump Foundation scandals and self-dealing should have been the end of him.

Him running from Megyn Kelly because she had blood coming out of her "wherever" should have been the end of him.

His performance in the debates against Clinton should have been the end of him.


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
78. +1000
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 06:26 AM
Apr 2019

What will it take to end this nightmare? He should have been ended long ago. I really am beginning to believe he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any voters. I am not religious, but I pray for the end of him.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
3. His base will go absolutely nuts with this. I fully expect some mouth
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:19 AM
Apr 2019

breathing asshole to "take it to the next level". He has given them free reign for their most hateful sentiments and actions.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
9. Yep, he basically gave the marching orders to attack. The ass is a monster of wretched
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:24 AM
Apr 2019

proportions. A pathetic fool with far too much power. History will not be kind to him. He can build his presidential library in a sewer.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
53. LIke I said we are WAY past the point of fixing this, there will not be a way to fix this
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:41 PM
Apr 2019

since 40% of this country wants the other 60% dead

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
57. None of this is probably going to end well, so many brainwashed hostile people and
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:49 PM
Apr 2019

loaded with guns ... and many of whom I question their mental stability.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
59. A brown skinned man with the name Obama drove them completely insane to the point
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:00 PM
Apr 2019

they voted for the worst human being who ever lived, other than maybe 5 others, for real.

Their diseased minds are getting worse , not better. MUCH trouble ahead.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
5. tRump, has brought the Oval Office down to the level of a really sleazy bar and cheap bar room talk.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:21 AM
Apr 2019

He reminds me of a total drunk at the end of the bar shouting crap 'till thrown out of the bar.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
10. It cannot be allowed. Everyone must protest this. Every single member of Congress...
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:25 AM
Apr 2019

Every single member of government. You cannot have the highest person of authority in our land attacking a duly elected official like that. What tRump is doing has got to be a crime.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
17. I agree completely...and it will force Republicans to stand up to Trump.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:42 AM
Apr 2019

...Republican members of Congress will be forced to comment on this mistake. And I believe that some Republicans will indeed stand up and strongly criticize President Trump.. This is wrong. And it is very easy to see that this is wrong. Yes, 25 -30 percent will think otherwise, but the great majority of people in this country know that it is wrong.

...It won't be easy for Republicans to stand up to Trump on this. But Trump has defined this 43 second video as an attack on a member of Congress. Many Republicans will indeed stand up to this. Why would they do that? This 43 second video steps over that line of decency that no one steps over. It is clear, and it is simple. We all know this is wrong. It is the major mistake that a leader does not make.

Why? ... 9/11 is off limits..43 seconds of vicious off limits attacks on a sitting member of the House of Representatives. The rest of the United States knows, but Trump doesn't know. Most Republicans know, and many will stand up in my opinion and condemn Trump for this video. Again, Trump has stepped over a line of decency. This is it. He doesn't need to do anything else. And....This is a clear impeachable offense. It is a vicious attack that steps over the line. And that will be the discussion for a long time... Not about passing this law or that law. Not about Russia or the funds for the military.. But whether or not this 43 seconds steps across the line of legal discussion right now in the U.S.A. by the President of the United States.

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
36. Just checked...zero Republicans condemning him
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:24 AM
Apr 2019

they love what he says because it is what they want him to say. It is what they say, in a slightly, very slightly more veiled way.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
12. No it won't. Stop smoking whatever you're smoking
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:26 AM
Apr 2019

Trump's base doesn't give a shit if what he says is true or not. His hating on Muslims is a plus for them. It makes him MORE popular with them.

The Republicans in Congress are too scared of his base to say anything or they are too scared of their Russian connections coming out.

Trump got elected because of vicious attacks. It's why he keeps on making them.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
13. Claiming that most immigrants were rapists and murderers should have been the end of Trump.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:27 AM
Apr 2019

We all know what happened after he said that.

Aristus

(66,452 posts)
15. It's not even going to make a dent.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:37 AM
Apr 2019

Those of us who oppose him are naturally repulsed by this action, which is essentially no more squalid or filthy than anything else he's done.

And his demented, lickspittle worshippers will love him all the more for it.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
16. NOTHING will stop him
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:38 AM
Apr 2019

There will always be another Barr, another McConnell, and that damnable 30%. I am beginning to wonder that even if he loses in 2020 that he will be stopped from continuing to destroy the USA via a media megaphone, raking in the bucks and inciting mayhem in our streets. Yes, he is that sick and evil with a "wall" of supporters and enablers around him protecting him from the destruction he so deserves.

So sadly this latest incident will not matter a bit.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
25. Yes he will continue to do that, so if we win in 2020, our work will be
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:52 AM
Apr 2019

to establish new democratic norms where such things become unacceptable again. It's not at all clear we can do that, but if we don't, we will be vulnerable to future Trump's who will be smarter and more ruthless than he is.

global1

(25,270 posts)
19. Oh Come On Now People.....
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:45 AM
Apr 2019

that's just Trump being Trump. (sarcasm)

The Repugs, the MSM and some Dems will normalize this as they have normalized everything Trump has done up till now. Guess what - he's already planning something even more controversial to shock us.

I'd like to think this situation will be different - but we've had two years of the normalization of Trump's antics. I'm thinking he'll survive this too.

By the Sunday shows - the circling of the wagons around Trump will commence.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
20. Wake up. This is the way of the authoritarian leader.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:48 AM
Apr 2019

You think there is line he will cross that his party will not follow him? There is no such line. There never will be, so stop waiting for one.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
79. +1000
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 07:33 AM
Apr 2019

Look at what they’ve gotten away with so far. You’re 100% correct, they will not stop. Every day brings more chaos and rage. With every judgeship filled, with every executive order signed, a piece of the U.S. is destroyed. It’s as if Trumpism were a cancer gnawing away at the life of our democracy, while sane folks are cranking like mad to find a cure. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

sarisataka

(18,769 posts)
24. Trump is Done!!!!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:51 AM
Apr 2019

#8679


This isn't the first time he has attacked a member of Congress nor, I fear, will it be the last.

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
26. He appears to be indestructable
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:55 AM
Apr 2019

it doesn't matter what he says or does.

Laws and norms of behavior appear not to apply to him in any way.

The media will smile and move on, his base will cheer it (especially if someone murders her), and nothing will happen to him.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. This will NOT BE THE END OF TRUMP.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:57 AM
Apr 2019

Come on, Stuart. You know that.


EVERYTHING he does steps over the edge of decency. That is the whole point. He has moved the edge of decency. so every time he does something people think, oh now he has stepped over the edge of decency.


There IS no longer an edge...

VOX

(22,976 posts)
28. Sorry, but the sad truth is Trumpists enjoy 45's psycho-hate.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:59 AM
Apr 2019

In fact, Trumpists somehow believe that their cult-figurehead is a patriotic-liberty-loving-Christian-white-supremacist who directs their paranoid, xenophobic rage against POC, LGBQT people, Muslims, women, Democrats and progressives— all referred to in RW circles as “communist baby-murdering terrorists,” or something like it.

45’s hatred, anger and continual attacks on Democrats & progressives will be heard daily, from now until the the day he passes away. We can vote him out of office, but that won’t stop him from doing his god-awful, nazi-clown-show “rallies.”

Arkansas Granny

(31,528 posts)
31. Don't get your hopes up. He did this for his cult and they're loving it.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:04 AM
Apr 2019

Have any Congressional Republicans come out to denounce him yet?

 

sokpupet

(7 posts)
32. Trump's attack on Ilhan Omar
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:05 AM
Apr 2019

This is how red meat is served. Trump comes from a criminal background as the real estate (building & development) market in NYC is cut throat. You do not survive if you do not play with the mob. Henceforth, Trump's usage of mobsteresk speak. I find it almost humorous that his wife picked cyber bullying when Trump is the poster boy of that and in person. He is unapologetic which is a sign of malignant narcissism. In short, he is dangerous; but the GOP in congress are worse as they seem to be impotent to his terrorizing around the globe.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
33. My opinion, I think t-rump is on his way out . . .
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:12 AM
Apr 2019

Semi-sane Republicans are worried about the 2020 elections even though they have the media, and some states, and foreign countries, the repeat of 2016 (which was definitely stolen) may not work this time around.

To be honest, even the approval polls numbers are inflated and t-rump is probably polling at, no more than 30%, if that.

The economy is going downward, the confidence in the government is much lower.

The Mueller report have convinced a majority of Americans that t-rump is guilty because Barr and the Republicans are hiding it. Same with the taxes.

Overall, the American people do not feel safe, neither economically and security.

T-rump has and still is calling for his base to rise, violently if need be. He would rather see the USA burn down than give up his power and money.

The Republican party allowed this, and they need to work the Democrats to stop it.

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
34. Unless several Senate Republicans speak out against this, he has nothing to worry about.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:13 AM
Apr 2019

His desperate act will not impact him negatively. It may even help him because it may invoke a frenzy among his racist, ignorant, deplorable base.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
38. This might be the end, that might be the end... nah
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:24 AM
Apr 2019

It just goes on day after day hour after hour attack after attack insult after insult felony after felony... Nobody will do anything more than make a tersely worded statement and go back to waiting on the Game of Thrones Season 8 premiere.

Why do you think this will be any different than the 836 times he's done this same thing, or worse, already?

Nobody has stood up to this cretin in his entire life, nor in this entire presidency, why would they start now? They're all cowards.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
39. Oh good grief!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:26 AM
Apr 2019

No it won't be the end of Trump. His base loves it, racists love it and the GOP loves it. Wake up people, Trump isn't pretending to be a dictator, he is a dictator.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
50. No kidding. The GOP at-large agree with him regardless of whether they say it out loud themselves.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

murielm99

(30,761 posts)
40. He steps over the edge of decency every day.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:27 AM
Apr 2019

He does something that should be the end of him every day.

He is still here. He will most likely be here until we defeat him in the voting booth.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,456 posts)
41. I'd go so far as to say Fox and hate radio have created
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:31 AM
Apr 2019

an environment where all Republicans are allowed to violate the laws of decency and civility.... but only Republicans. If a Democrat even suggests that one of their comments is out of line all their collective panties go into a bunch and they get the Lyndsey Graham vapors.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
67. Many in America do give a shit. Many do not. I believe there are millions who do give a shit.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 06:47 PM
Apr 2019

There are millions who are offended by the use of 9/11 video to politicize current events. There will be reaction, I believe. We are talking about millions who give a shit. This will be a topic of conversation for a long time. (in my opinion.) We will see. I have been on target sometimes, and I have been totally wrong sometimes. After all this is a discussion forum. And I admit to knowing only so much..(not a lot) I did think by this age, (over 70) I would know more. But at least I know how little I know. oh well....?

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
44. I'll believe it when I see it.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:40 AM
Apr 2019

More likely, it will be forgotten in a couple of days, and he'll move on to his next disgusting act, with zero repercussions. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

PatrickforO

(14,587 posts)
46. Done what? Thumbed his nose at democracy yet again?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:55 AM
Apr 2019

Well, yeah, but look at the litany - starting with his despicable words about John McCain during the 2016 primaries. And, hey, he came out of that, and hundreds of other shitty, corrupt, dishonest and treasonous things smelling like a rose.

Oh, I will be calling my US Senators, and also my Representative (unfortunately a member of the 'freedom caucus,'), as should every American.

Because in the end we must a) pressure those few Republicans left that remember how to put country before party into doing that, and b) paste the GOP so totally in 2020 that it dies as a party.

Up to us.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
51. Nah, just another straw in the pile. The only thing that will break his back is defeat him bigtime
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

in 2020 and then aggressively prosecute him for every frigging illegal act in his personal and public life over the course of his campaign and small p-residency with a view to stripping him of his freedom, fortune if not life (that would be my preference given the enormity of the treasonous threat to democracy and the sound Constitutional function of our nation -- because we now understand the fragility of our Constitution and ought to signal the strongest of penalties to all would be dictators who will undoubtedly surface in the our future to take advantage of those fragilities).

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
60. The end of Trump? This is a blip on the radar for a few days.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:09 PM
Apr 2019

The end of Trump won’t come until he does something to piss of a large number of people who aren’t even paying much attention to politics, and this isn’t it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,834 posts)
61. The end of Trump won't come until we vote him out.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 01:23 PM
Apr 2019

We're stuck with him until the end of his term unless all that KFC catches up with him and he finds a new home in a much warmer location, or unless he does something so completely freakish that even his cult members are a bit put off by it. But that would have to be something like stripping naked at a rally and throwing poop at the audience or buggering a Cub Scout on the White House lawn on live TV. Inciting violence against a Democratic House member is just another day at the office.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
62. if by end of Trump
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:14 PM
Apr 2019

you mean he continues to build a pool of voters who might have voted for him who now won't while hardening the resolve of those opposed to him to turn out in 2020? Then, yes.

The reality is Trump has been extremely fortunate to preside during a time of relative economic success. Any other President in his position would be a ten point favorite to be re-elected.

He's having to actively work to put his re-election in jeopardy.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
71. No one know the future.. Sure, we have hunches and ideas..
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:48 PM
Apr 2019

Anything can happen, either good or bad...no one knows. Maybe Trump will resign..maybe..Never be sure of the future..Why? It is the future, that is why..

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
72. I apologize...sorry..I do not know what you are referring to..Could you please explain..
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:51 PM
Apr 2019

Please..
What is not going to be, not even close...thank you for your response..Stuart

Raine

(30,540 posts)
73. that Trump's attack on Omar won't come close to
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:58 PM
Apr 2019

being the end of Trump, his peeps will get behind him and prop him up no matter what he does or says. I actually think he could shoot someone in front of a crowd and still an excuse would be found to be supportive of him by his loyal fans.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
74. Thank You for the explanation. I appreciate it.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:10 PM
Apr 2019

..It could be, or maybe not. The future is hazy for me. Yes, his loyal fans will support him, but that number is going down. Who knows? I sure hope this country survives. And I think it will. We have been through worse...(because of the length of time ago, and its so called lesser importance, the Civil War is not studied as much in secondary school as it was before) It was much worse in relation to the total population and what it did to the entire country..

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