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Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:10 AM

The Democratic House is not going to pass anything that the Republican Senate will vote for...

All the talk about healthcare, jobs, pick your issue, will be blocked by McConnell and the Republicans.

Yes, Democrats prefer to talk about these "bread and butter" issues instead of impeachment, but neither one is expected to be more successful than the other?

It makes some feel good that talking about these "kitchen table" issues will be more effective than talking impeachment, but there is no evidence to prove that.

Most likely, votes on either issue would fail in the Republican Senate.

We should stop pretending that talking about healthcare and jobs will have any more success before the 2020 election than talking about impeachment.

It's all talk.

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Reply The Democratic House is not going to pass anything that the Republican Senate will vote for... (Original post)
kentuck Apr 2019 OP
Iliyah Apr 2019 #1
kentuck Apr 2019 #2
Cary Apr 2019 #4
edhopper Apr 2019 #11
Cary Apr 2019 #18
edhopper Apr 2019 #19
Paladin Apr 2019 #6
Freddie Apr 2019 #9
Paladin Apr 2019 #12
global1 Apr 2019 #3
LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #8
Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #5
manor321 Apr 2019 #7
NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #10
kentuck Apr 2019 #13
beachbum bob Apr 2019 #14
kentuck Apr 2019 #15
beachbum bob Apr 2019 #17
Pobeka Apr 2019 #20
Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #16

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:14 AM

1. At least the American people know they passed bills that

benefited the country and will know the Republican senate blocked them. I see that working in the Dem's favor. Plus Republicans are worried about losing power. They see 2020 slipping away.

Fearmongering is their only option.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:17 AM

2. In my opinion, Democrats will pay a huge price if they do not try to hold Trump accountable.

Just my opinion.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:24 AM

4. So Republicans put a Nazi in the White House and Democrats are responsible?

Dude, you need to be a little tougher than that. We crushed them last year. We will crush them again.

We.will never surrender!

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Response to Cary (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:02 AM

11. Not what they said

They are not "responsible" for Trump.
But now have the power to hold him accountable. They need to use it.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:21 AM

18. Nonsense.

The negativity is just that. No good will come from being negative.

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Response to Cary (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:41 AM

19. I see

So they shouldn't hold Trump accountable?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:26 AM

6. I agree completely.

That's why I think impeachment proceedings should be underway. Let the fucking Republicans vote against it---then hold them accountable.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:46 AM

9. Wish it were that easy

McTurtle will use his favorite tactic and refuse to allow anything to come to a vote, so there will be no record of anyone voting against something that would help people.

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Response to Freddie (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:05 AM

12. Fine. Let Democrats prolong their current image as squabbling impotents.

Maybe a second trump term will sober everybody up.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:23 AM

3. It's Not Going To Look Good For The Repugs In 2020 If....

they vote no on the kitchen table issues that the American People want and the House passes on to the Senate. It will put a spotlight on the Repugs obstruction that will lend itself well to campaign ads for the Dems.

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Response to global1 (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:44 AM

8. I agree.

Democrats should do their part so that they can show Americans that they’re trying and let them see that it’s the GOP Senators and the GOP President who are holding up progress. They need to pass bills as if the Senate and Presidency are in friendly hands. A few of the bills might make it all the way, you never know.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:25 AM

5. But, Republicans will insist that it's not obstruction, even if the polls show that those issues are

the ones that voters want to be addressed.,

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:41 AM

7. No. All evidence is that people care about pocketbook issues

 

We should pursue impeachment, though, because it is the right thing to do.

Passing bills in the House is useful because it clearly demonstrates what the party will do if it wins.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:57 AM

10. However, if the House did not pass these bills

many of the same people would be complaining that the Democrats didn't even try to pass bills to protect elections, create jobs, rebuild infrastructure, raise the minimum wage, etc.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:09 AM

13. Would this be an instance where they could not walk and chew gum at the same time?

Would the impeachment issue take all the attention and oxygen? There would be no time to pass any other bills?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:12 AM

14. it maybe talk BUT it puts GOP house members on the record when they vote AGAINST legislation and

 

how is that BAD for 2020 election of democrats. If Pelosi doesn't do it, she has failed us

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:15 AM

15. There would be no record.

It would not be brought up for a vote, with McConnell in charge.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:17 AM

17. the voting record of the house GOP, who cares about the senate? The power is still in control of the

 

house and democrats can keep using that AND democratic senate candidates can attack their opponents over McConnels' inaction.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 03:09 PM

20. McConnell blocking has the same effect as a "No" vote, and people understand that.

You can turn that on the entire GOP senate with some clearly crafted ads. Pocketbook issue bills passed in the house and blocked by a GOP controlled Senate...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:17 AM

16. Yes it is all talk

 

But talk that Democrats running in 20 can run on.

Versus a failed impeachment that Trump and the GOP will be able to run on.

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