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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,996 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:39 PM Apr 2019

'No authority': New Mexico governor tells militia to stop arresting migrants at border

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham on Friday lashed out at members of a militia group who are stopping migrants at the border, declaring "regular citizens have no authority to arrest or detain anyone."

The American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico has demanded that Lujan Grisham and New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas investigate the militia organization, United Constitutional Patriots. Some of the group's members are armed.

"That migrant families might be menaced or threatened in any way, shape or form when they arrive at our border — often times after an unimaginably arduous journey — is completely unacceptable," Grisham said in an email to NBC News.

"It should go without saying that regular citizens have no authority to arrest or detain anyone," she said. "My office and our state police are coordinating with the Attorney General's Office and local police to determine what has gone on and what can be done."

Balderas warned in a statement that "these individuals should not attempt to exercise authority reserved for law enforcement," he said.

The ACLU of New Mexico raised the alarm about the arrests in a letter sent Thursday to Grisham and Balderas.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-authority-new-mexico-governor-tells-militia-to-stop-arresting-migrants-at-border/ar-BBW70of?li=BBnb7Kz

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'No authority': New Mexico governor tells militia to stop arresting migrants at border (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 OP
I'm very concerned it's going to get even worse down there. dewsgirl Apr 2019 #1
If these wannabe rambos are hell bent on using their precious kill toys... Initech Apr 2019 #5
No SilasSouleII Apr 2019 #7
Yikes no way. My son is in the Air Force, the thought terrifies dewsgirl Apr 2019 #9
True. Initech Apr 2019 #23
If it's any consolation, the weather might slow it down a bit Brother Buzz Apr 2019 #11
These militia's bdamomma Apr 2019 #17
THIS for sure i really believe!! bluestarone Apr 2019 #24
How about slapping a few of those militia in jail? babylonsister Apr 2019 #2
This is a real crisis on the boarder... GulfCoast66 Apr 2019 #4
Wish I could recommend your post Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #10
Amazing to see all those LEOs standing proudly with Bundy when it was their badges being sighted on. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #15
people need to stop calling these asshole militia. pangaia Apr 2019 #3
asshole terror cells? nt Gore1FL Apr 2019 #14
Hurt them in their pockets. These RAMBO types as the governor stated, have no authority to... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #6
I dont think "inadvertantly" is the right word. quakerboy Apr 2019 #21
Thanks, guvner. These people are all on a selfrighteous high, therefore dangerous. Karadeniz Apr 2019 #8
Just wait until the first shot gets fired inwiththenew Apr 2019 #12
Saw this this morning. So glad Grisham BadgerMom Apr 2019 #13
Murder, robbery, child molesting - border patriots have some history keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #16
Trump will be tweeting about what heroes they are any minute now. world wide wally Apr 2019 #19
We have a good governor here in NM imo. triron Apr 2019 #18
Not wanting to play devils advocate, but Quackers Apr 2019 #20
Which part of that statute applies? quakerboy Apr 2019 #22
The part Quackers Apr 2019 #27
It specifically says "state" Cold War Spook Apr 2019 #29
See post 31. nt Quackers Apr 2019 #32
Are those people charged in the courts Codeine Apr 2019 #30
I'm not stating it in regards to this specific situation. I'm saying it in a broader context. Quackers Apr 2019 #31
And MAGA's here know that duhneece Apr 2019 #33
The states have to save us from his minions. nolabear Apr 2019 #25
New Mexico The Genealogist Apr 2019 #26
K&R ck4829 Apr 2019 #28

Initech

(100,078 posts)
5. If these wannabe rambos are hell bent on using their precious kill toys...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:07 PM
Apr 2019

Rather than attempting to play police, why don't they do us a favor and join the army? They can take their aggressions out there.

SilasSouleII

(363 posts)
7. No
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:33 PM
Apr 2019

We don't need these types in the US Army. They'll only bring their problems and issues into an honorable profession.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
9. Yikes no way. My son is in the Air Force, the thought terrifies
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:40 PM
Apr 2019

me. I am beyond proud of him. I honestly didn't want him to enlist after Trump became president. Even though he is excelling and loves it, I worry much more than I would have under a stable president.

Brother Buzz

(36,439 posts)
11. If it's any consolation, the weather might slow it down a bit
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:45 PM
Apr 2019

These yahoos dressed up in their dime store camouflage uniforms are going to start wilting real soon.

bluestarone

(16,948 posts)
24. THIS for sure i really believe!!
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 PM
Apr 2019

And it's only the BEGINNING of what will happen in 2020!! SCARY SHIT HERE

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
4. This is a real crisis on the boarder...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:02 PM
Apr 2019

She should send the state police or even national guard to prevent an armed, organized effort to illegal restrain people.

And when they try to pull a Bundy ranch deal and aim their firearms at law enforcement, do what normally happens. Shoot the motherfuckers.

keithbvadu2

(36,812 posts)
15. Amazing to see all those LEOs standing proudly with Bundy when it was their badges being sighted on.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:04 PM
Apr 2019

Amazing to see all those LEOs standing proudly with Bundy when it was their badges being sighted on.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
3. people need to stop calling these asshole militia.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:00 PM
Apr 2019

They are.. ASSHOLES !

OK, how about asshole vigilantes !!

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
6. Hurt them in their pockets. These RAMBO types as the governor stated, have no authority to...
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:13 PM
Apr 2019

detain these persons, and if anything, should be sued for damages by unlawfully detaining these individuals (instead of detaining these people, they should call the authorities if they are truly concerned about illegal activity, but not themselves engage in illegal activity too (unlawfully detaining someone against their will, failure to report a crime to authorities, etc.)).

Someone is going to inadvertently get hurt by these RAMBO nuts.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
21. I dont think "inadvertantly" is the right word.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 PM
Apr 2019

But yes. I'd love to see a wave of civil suits. Lets see them patrol the border once their guns, vehicles and fancy cammo garb belong to the assorted immigrants and citizens that they have harassed.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
12. Just wait until the first shot gets fired
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:52 PM
Apr 2019

Whether it be from militia member of drug traffickers/coyotes. This is the type of thing that will spin completely out of control.

keithbvadu2

(36,812 posts)
16. Murder, robbery, child molesting - border patriots have some history
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:05 PM
Apr 2019

Murder, robbery, child molesting – border patriots have some history

“It really attracted a lot of people that had some pretty extreme issues,”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/minuteman-movement-border-crisis-simcox/

During the past four years, the Minuteman groups that defined conservative immigration policy during the mid-to-late-2000s have mostly self-destructed—sometimes spectacularly so. Founding Minuteman leaders are in prison, facing criminal charges, dead, or sidelined. “It really attracted a lot of people that had some pretty extreme issues,” says Juanita Molina, executive director of the Border Action Network, an advocacy group that provides aid to migrants in the desert. “We saw the movement implode on itself mostly because of that.” An analysis by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors right-wing extremist groups, found that the number of Minuteman groups in the Southwest had declined from 310 to 38 between 2010 and 2012.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
20. Not wanting to play devils advocate, but
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:22 PM
Apr 2019

If the Governor is going to claim that regular citizens have no authority to arrest anyone, then she may want to have the law changed to reflect that.

New Mexico 31-4-14
The arrest of a person may be lawfully made also by any peace officer or a private person without a warrant upon reasonable information that the accused stands charged in the courts of a state with a crime punishable by death or imprisonment for a term exceeding one year, but when so arrested the accused must be taken before a judge or magistrate with all practicable speed and complaint must be made against him under oath setting forth the ground for the arrest as in the preceding section [ 31-4-13 NMSA 1978]; and thereafter his answer shall be heard as if he had been arrested on a warrant.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
27. The part
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM
Apr 2019

that says any private citizen can arrest is directly contradictory to her saying that no ordinary person can arrest or detain anyone.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
29. It specifically says "state"
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:22 AM
Apr 2019

Unless the state has a law against illegal immigration, that law does not apply to what they are doing.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
30. Are those people charged in the courts
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:01 AM
Apr 2019

of a state with a crime carrying a year+ sentence? Are they being turned over to a judge or magistrate?

Yeah, I didn’t think so. Your cited statue has zero applicability.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
31. I'm not stating it in regards to this specific situation. I'm saying it in a broader context.
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:09 AM
Apr 2019

Words matter. For the Governor to say that a regular person has no right to arrest someone is false under her States own law. That’s all I’m pointing out. I’m not happy or do I excuse what some psycho with a gun is doing to people crossing the border.

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
33. And MAGA's here know that
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:51 AM
Apr 2019

I’m in south central New Mexico with Trump loving County Commissioners. What they are doing is sickening... from resolutions in support of ‘unborn human beings’ to declaring a state of emergency in our county.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
26. New Mexico
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM
Apr 2019

I have some great memories from my teen years of visiting the great state of New Mexico with my grandpa. I am glad they now have a governor like this.

My great hope is that, some day, historians will see this dark era for what it is. People like governor Lujan Grisham deserve to be remembered for standing up against tyranny.

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