So...It Seems Clear To Me

[WiffenPoof]

It has been repeated over and over that there is no finding of collusion between Trump and the Russians. However, it seems clear that there are numerous examples of obstruction of justice.

So, if there was no collusion between Trump and the Russians, what's with all the obstructions? What exactly was the obstructive behavior suppose to hide?

Collusion.

ON EDIT: Sorry if I'm starting the obvious.

[vlyons]

1. The money, of course

Mueller did not follow the money. He did not investigate how much Russian money flowed into the Trump campaign, Trump businesses, the NRA, and god only knows what else.

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2. Agreed. trump colluded on nat'l TV with the "Russia if you're listening..." request. And stupid Jr..

colluded as well with the trump tower "get Hillary dirt" meeting with the Russkies.

Also the report mentions that the crooks in the admin destroyed tons of evidence by deleting emails and communicating through encrypted messages—they're just a huge cabal of crooks and liars. We really have to impeach, but IMO we have to follow through with the subpoenas and public hearings to build a case for it as info and testimony will come out that shifts the onus totally onto the repugs in the Senate to act on the corruption, obstruction, endless lies and crookedness so blatantly in our faces coming from the trump WH.

Building a case for it is IMO the wiser way to do it instead of immediately jumping to impeachment. We have to let all the corruption and unfitness for office of trump to settle in into the consciousness of the country.

[vlyons]

3. not a problem for me

I am so stressed in my personal life right now, that I can't get too emotionally invested in how the Trump saga unfolds. But unfold it will. The country needs to hear the testimony of the various players, whom Congress will subpoena. I am a deep believer in the truth of karma, which is like gravity in that it never stops working. We have elected honest, competent, careful, and thoughtful representatives. They are in charge of much of how the Trump saga unfolds.

[WiffenPoof]

4. Well Stated

I also believe that we need to impeach. Failing to do so would send the wrong message.

However,. I would like to see the Congress pursue their agenda aggressively at the same time. For example, they should design and develop an infrastructure bill and push it very hard. This would send the important message that Congress is pursuing the people's business. An infrastructure bill would be difficult for the Republicans to align against.

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6. Yes, even the repugs can't come out against wholesale infrastructure improvements and the jobs...

that would create.

[empedocles]

5. Agreed. 'Building a case' with the coming tidal waves of corruption information,

is the wiser way to do it, instead of immediately jumping to impeachment.

[abqtommy]

7. Can we stop using the word "collusion"?

It's not a legal term. The term of choice is "conspiracy" which is appropriate and fitting in all tRump/Republicon matters.