Trump Jr "didn't know what he was doing was illegal" so not held accountable.

[riversedge]

Life is not fair. The cocky Jr is so nauseating.

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Replying to @PrplMnkyCupcake @NoyzeSmythe

The rich live by a different set of rules!
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Champthinks
‏ @Champthinks2
21h21 hours ago

Replying to @PrplMnkyCupcake @gailbriggs8

Fact ..ignorance of the law is not a defense
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Andrea Holsomback
‏ @AndreaHolsomba2
20h20 hours ago

Apparently it is when your rich and white
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Laura Greathouse
‏ @WVQuincyGee
5h5 hours ago

Replying to @PrplMnkyCupcake

If he didn’t know it was illegal he wouldn’t have tried to cover it up.

[vsrazdem]

1. Sad when you are too stupid not to know any better, but look who is father is.

[madaboutharry]

2. Didn't he graduate from The Univ. of Pennsylvania?

That is an Ivy League university. Granted he didn’t deserve to go there, but he did manage to pass.

[Butterflylady]

27. Maybe orange face

Should get back the money he paid for Jr's tuition.

[dchill]

3. What law book is THAT in?

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! I have heard this all my life! My life is not a lie!

Hopefully, Mueller knows what's really coming for Trump jr., and wants him just hanging out and feeling free and special when the load dumps on him.

Even then, ignorance of the law is no excuse. This stinks.

[Ms. Toad]

13. It depends on the mens rea (mental state).

In homicide, for example, the mens rea is purposefully (causing the death of another). Nothing in that mens rearequires knowing that causing the death of another is illegal - so ignorance of the law is no excuse.

As to the law Junior might have been charged with violating, the mens req was willlfully, with knowledge that the behavior was illegal. If you don't know the law, you can't act willfully, knowing that what you are doing is illegal, if you are unaware that it is illegal.

[Grasswire2]

28. They lied and lied and lied and lied about the meeting.

Consciencness of guilt.

[Ms. Toad]

33. Guilt is not necessarily knowledge of illegality

People feel guilty about plenty of things that aren't illegal.

And lying can also mean trying to hide things from political opponents. Also not inherently illegal.

[JudyM]

32. How is he so oblivious not to think to ask a lawyer if it's ok?

He had to have known that that would be damned close to the line. But I suppose tRumps are taught to do whatever you want and let the lawyers clean up the mess afterward.

[Ms. Toad]

34. This particular law does not require that he check the law.

That's not a part of the mens rea. (I'm not aware of any mens rea that would require checking with a lawyer.

[ancianita]

17. Mueller knows that SDNY's got this. But you're right on the first point; it totally stinks.

[Siwsan]

4. What happened to 'Ignorance of the law is no defense"?

Seems to apply to us common folk.

[eppur_se_muova]

8. No matter how obscure or confusing the law, at that.

Laws passed in midnight sessions and enforced without announcement are a favorite tool of Fascists/Republicans.

[Siwsan]

10. So, where do we draw the line?

What the trump* Klan did is something anyone with any amount of patriotism, not to mention common sense, would have realized was wrong, morally, ethically and legally.

[eppur_se_muova]

11. I think it's around 1%, but it's probably a little flexible. nt

[Siwsan]

12. I've got to admit that you are, in all likelihood, right.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Some laws have it written in them that intent to act illegally is necessary for conviction. . . . nt

[Siwsan]

25. How the hell could they rationalize that what they were doing WASN'T illegal (totally rhetorical)

I have no doubt they knew it was. Not a shred of doubt. Not an iota. Not even a scintilla or nano particle.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. Junior is that stupid. Trumpanzees still say he did nothing wrong & say DNC & dossier was illegal.

[paleotn]

24. How about just garden variety ignorance....

He's certainly the poster boy for that!

[dlk]

5. Ordinarily, Ignorance of the Law is Not a Defense

It appears the rules are being rewritten to Trump & Co.’s benefit.

[Ms. Toad]

14. No. There are just some laws (this/these happen to be among them)

where the required mental state includes knowing that what you are doing is illegal.

[warmfeet]

18. The laws favoring the 0.1%. NT

[Ms. Toad]

35. Maybe -

Knowledge of the illegality of the act is more likely to be part of the mens rea in a crimes that are bad acts because we've defined them to be bad acts (mala prohibita - most white collar crimes, but also prostitution, drug use, driving without a license), than in crimes that are inherently wrong (mala in se - like homicide, rape, theft).

[Paladin]

6. The oh-so-sweet side of lowered expectations. (nt)

[Nevermypresident]

7. I am extremely perplexed and disappointed that he as well as Kushner and Ivanka were not

subpoened. I won't be so naive again.

[triron]

16. Ivanka was interviewed and may have entered into some kind of agreement according

To Rachel.

[Mc Mike]

9. Aggravated case of ignorant affluenza.

His dopey daddy has been getting away with things the same way, since the '60's.

[Dr Vegas]

15. "Hey, I'm depraved on account I'm deprived!"

[AllaN01Bear]

19. hem

[Kurt V.]

20. i believe Mueller was told if he goes after the kids the SC would be terminated.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. After the White House Ethics Committee was dissolved, it was clear that

they had no intention of following any norms, established rules of conduct, anything. Orange Julius set the tone, and the family had already been indoctrinated through decades of screwing anybody they could. I call BS on any of them using the "I didn't know." It has been a blatant disregard for all Rule of Law. They need to be prosecuted and 45 needs to be Impeached.

[NotHardly]

23. Should I ever get arrested, I'm gonna be sure to use the Trump Jr. appeal ... wonder how that'll ...

work for someone living a lower-middle-class life... anyone want to take any bets????"

[stillcool]

29. open wound, insert salt...

[brush]

30. Hate to say it, but this is stupid white boy privilege. Jr. should've been one of the first to be...

perp walked. Mueller gave him a tremendous break.

[Turbineguy]

31. A little bit like the story

of the guy doing 100 mph on Hwy 101.