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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:44 PM Apr 2019

This is exactly right on what Dems need to do

Cheri Jacobus has it correct -






text of her tweet:
Why spend millions of dollars in the 2020 election cycle trying to educate voters what the Mueller report says when you can educate them thru live, televised, unfiltered impeachment hearings? Lewandowski & McGahn under oath telling us how Trump ordered them to obstruct justice.
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This is exactly right on what Dems need to do (Original Post) NewJeffCT Apr 2019 OP
We will get there. We can't question them until all the grand jury testimony and underlying boston bean Apr 2019 #1
good point NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #4
That's where I'm at! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2019 #2
half of America NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #3
I disagree Andy823 Apr 2019 #15
If this pResident doesn't deserve to be impeached none ever will! Dustlawyer Apr 2019 #5
Yes! Thank you! SunSeeker Apr 2019 #6
Great idea Pepsidog Apr 2019 #7
Because they will only be thinking about BootinUp Apr 2019 #8
The Democrats have a responsibility to the people to begin the impeachment process patphil Apr 2019 #9
And the explanation, according to Barr.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #10
A Side Benefit DallasNE Apr 2019 #11
We can have the hearings without calling them impeachment... louis c Apr 2019 #12
Oversight hearings... No need to pull the trigger on impeachment... zaj Apr 2019 #13
Totally agree with getting the hearings started and televised. Will it change the minds of trumpians iluvtennis Apr 2019 #14

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
1. We will get there. We can't question them until all the grand jury testimony and underlying
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:46 PM
Apr 2019

evidence is revealed and shared.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. good point
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:25 PM
Apr 2019

but, I think they should start at least scheduling Mueller and his lieutenants sooner rather than later

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. half of America
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:53 PM
Apr 2019

is getting the spin on the Mueller report from Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Trump himself and others.

If even 10-15% of them can at least be turned off from Trump, it will be huge

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
15. I disagree
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:42 PM
Apr 2019

"half" of America does not watch Fox News, listen to Rush, or buy into trumps lies. You may have a third, or less, that are in this category. The majority who do listen to these idiots will NEVER be turned off by trump, they have been brainwashed and will never listen to reason.

The people that the Democrats need to be reaching out too, are the 46% who sat home in 2016 and didn't bother to vote. Many never though that a dolt like trump stood a chance so they didn't bother. Some were just tired of all the shit coming at the, with help from Russian trolls, they were just fed up. But one thing for sure those who fell for trumps lies "DID" get out and vote and they are his die hard base right now. We need to get "everyone" out to vote and those who were in the 46% are the ones we need to convince, not the cult followers from fox, Rush, or trump who never change their minds.

Just my two cents worth.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
5. If this pResident doesn't deserve to be impeached none ever will!
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 08:40 PM
Apr 2019

We need mass marching in the streets demanding impeachment! It is time to do our civic duty and give the politicians a spine!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. And the explanation, according to Barr....
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:16 PM
Apr 2019

is that he didn't mean that specifically. He was just ranting and venting, like he always does. Like Henry II saying, "Will no one rid me of this turbulent Priest?" So his men killed Archbishop Becket brutally, thinking Henry II meant it literally. But Henry said he was just venting. I don't buy it that Trump was just stressed & venting, since he specifically asked people to fire Mueller, at least twice. But ...

There's one shot at impeachment. It's best to have a rock solid case that the public will support.

Maybe Congress should roll in monetary fraud, if they get his tax returns.

Maybe they should file a secret indictment, so Trump can be charged when he leaves office.

No need to rush out with impeachment papers. All the ducks need to be in a row, and the leaders need to come up with the best strategy. Maybe once they get the unredacted report and see all the underlying evidence, they'll decide it's strong enough to put that on the historical record as the reason for impeachment. The public has to be behind it.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
11. A Side Benefit
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:01 PM
Apr 2019

Of upholding the rule of law.

Needs to be done for the right reason and this seems like the right reason.

But lets not jump into this blindly. Need to bring in Barr, Rosenstein and Mueller to find out why there was so much difficulty in getting admissible evidence, etc. Was the 5th Amendment overused to cover up crime for the boss. How pervasive was witness tampering at the highest levels. What can be done about these things.

Done wrong and that TV coverage can backfire.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
12. We can have the hearings without calling them impeachment...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:09 PM
Apr 2019

...we can subpoena anyone in before any one of 3 committees. We don't need to hand the other side a talking point to achieve the same goal. Oversight, not impeachment is the winning strategy.

Unless you can list me the 20 Republican Senators for conviction.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
13. Oversight hearings... No need to pull the trigger on impeachment...
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:22 PM
Apr 2019

...to get the same effect. It's the Bengazi model only with very real crimes.

iluvtennis

(19,861 posts)
14. Totally agree with getting the hearings started and televised. Will it change the minds of trumpians
Sat Apr 20, 2019, 10:24 PM
Apr 2019

NO...but at least we will have it on the official record for history.

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