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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. If Barr's DOJ doesn't comply with congressional
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:37 AM
Apr 2019

subpoenas, that would be immediately impeachable I would think,

FBaggins

(26,696 posts)
4. Failure to comply with a Congressional subpoena of course
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:21 AM
Apr 2019

The House even voted to hold him in contempt (with fewer than half of Democrats supporting him)... and he still didn't comply.

Of course the criminal complaint never went anywhere since those go to the DOJ and he was the head of the DOJ (see Barr's title as reference). Years later a court ordered him to turn over non-privileged information, but some of it was never released.

FBaggins

(26,696 posts)
6. He wasn't in charge when Karl Rove refused to testify
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:40 AM
Apr 2019

Pelosi was... yet there was no impeachment. The claim of executive privilege stood.

Even when he was subpoenaed again after Obama took office... he still didn't testify, wasn't impeached, and Obama didn't revoke the privilege claim.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
7. you seem to moving all over the map? What does Karl Rove have to do with any of this?
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:46 AM
Apr 2019

as for Holder, if executive privilege was upheld, then the subpoena could be ignored. This has no relationship to Barr and trump and if Barr refuses the House subpeona and provide complete Mueller report and supporting documentation.....as all of Mueller's investigations was focused on actions done by trump and his circle BEFORE he was sworn in as president and HENCE NOT subject to executive privileged.

FBaggins

(26,696 posts)
8. Not at all. You're the one dancing
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:17 AM
Apr 2019

You began with an unsupported position that merely refusing a congressional subpoena is "immediately impeachable". I gave you an exactly comparable scenario and you tried to dodge... so I gave you a different example. We could go on all day with you trying to avoid the obvious conclusion... but the simple fact is that congressional subpoenas have been ignored by executive branch members dozens of times and nobody has been impeached for it.

as for Holder, if executive privilege was upheld, then the subpoena could be ignored.

That's an odd position for someone to take after claiming that ignoring a subpoena was immediately impeachable. But you should at least note that it was only a small portion of what Holder withheld that was deemed privileged... and nothing ever came of the years spent denying the subpoena.

as all of Mueller's investigations was focused on actions done by trump and his circle BEFORE he was sworn in as president and HENCE NOT subject to executive privileged.

Sorry. That's not even close to true (either factually or in analysis). Everything in the obstruction charges that are the primary remaining topics occurred after he took office. Just as importantly, none of what Congress is insisting that he produce was denied for executive privilege in the first place.

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