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Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:08 AM

 

Watergate's Bob Woodward: Trump is too stupid to have organized a conspiracy with Russia

"On Friday, Axios reported that legendary Watergate reporter Bob Woodward is considering writing a second book on President Donald Trump — and that he was driven to do so, in part, because he is disturbed by how disorganized and out of his depth the president is as leader of the free world.

Woodward even went so far as to imply that special counsel Robert Mueller was probably right not to implicate Trump criminally — because he is too incompetent to have intentionally masterminded a scheme with Russia."

"“It’s a governing crisis. He doesn’t know how to govern,” Woodward told Axios. “People who work with Trump say: You can’t even organize your own government. How could you possibly organize a conspiracy with Russia? … He doesn’t even have a to-do list, as best I can tell.”

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Reply Watergate's Bob Woodward: Trump is too stupid to have organized a conspiracy with Russia (Original post)
Vidal Apr 2019 OP
eShirl Apr 2019 #1
SuprstitionAintthWay Apr 2019 #19
uponit7771 Apr 2019 #2
zaj Apr 2019 #3
Paladin Apr 2019 #12
vlyons Apr 2019 #4
LAS14 Apr 2019 #5
Me. Apr 2019 #6
CatMor Apr 2019 #8
Me. Apr 2019 #11
malaise Apr 2019 #7
GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #9
MFGsunny Apr 2019 #10
NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #13
lunatica Apr 2019 #14
Nitram Apr 2019 #15
muriel_volestrangler Apr 2019 #16
tanyev Apr 2019 #17
RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2019 #18
struggle4progress Apr 2019 #20
flotsam Apr 2019 #21
FakeNoose Apr 2019 #22

Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:09 AM

1. He's too stupid NOT to be a Russian Asset though.

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Response to eShirl (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:19 PM

19. Correct.

Putin has lots of leverage over him, in a range of areas, and Trump is extremely conscious and frightened of the prospect of Putin unleashing it on him. So he humiliates himself and America by aggressively brown-nosing Putin at every opportunity.

There was active conspiracy and coordination going on in 2016, but it also was mostly inept from the Trump team side. Mueller, applying his ridiculously strict definition of what could be prosecuted as conspiracy, couldn't get adequate evidence to prove the incidents of it that did happen.

That doesn't mean that the Russian sabotaging of our election wasn't essential to Trump getting electoralcolleged into office. It was.

All that said, Woodward is correct in the sense that neither Trump nor much of anybody else on his campaign were up to the task of conducting a truly multi-faceted, extensive, effective conspiracy with Russia. Well, Bannon and Parscale, maybe, but I've never seen anybody else in that clown show as being up to it.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:09 AM

2. The Russians are smart enough to direct his actions directly or tacitly so Red Don's intelligence...

...is not that big of a factor.

Right now the Trump campaign isn't hands down saying they're not going to work with Russia in 2020 ...

That's enough for impeachment in and of itself !!!

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:10 AM

3. WTF, Putin organized it!

 

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Response to zaj (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:58 AM

12. Exactly so. Putin set the trap, and Dumbass Don walked right into it.

Surely Woodward is sharp enough and informed enough to grasp that obvious fact. All trump was interested in was the piles of dirty money and crooked votes that Russia could deliver. The election was stolen, and that's a crime.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:10 AM

4. probably true, but

He was happy to let the Russians organize for him. Never picked up the phone to call the FBI.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:11 AM

5. That's what I've thought all along. I wasn't surprised by the Mueller conclusions on that front. nt

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:28 AM

6. And Woodward Is Too Stupid To See The Truth

You don't have to be smart to commit a crime just devious

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Response to Me. (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:33 AM

8. So true ....

Woodward seems to think he's the authority on everything since Watergate. I find him annoying and highly overrated.

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Response to CatMor (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:56 AM

11. Not To Mention Utterly Pompous

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:30 AM

7. He's narcissistic enough to now claim ownership

of the scheme with Russia

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:34 AM

9. Yes, but he was still more than willing to participate.

Just because he wasn't the organizer, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:35 AM

10. Dumpster-fire Don is dumb like a fox.


Takes charlatan, con-man or snake-oil hustler to a whole new AND disastrous level.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:50 AM

13. If they're too dumb?

how did they know they needed to hide those 100+ contacts with Russian agents?

I don't think it takes a genius to say, "hey, Vlad baby, if you help me beat Hillary, I'll look (wink wink) at sanctions when I'm president."

Putin, "Donny, remember those girls peeing on the bed in the Moscow hotel? You need to do more thank look at the sanctions."

Donny, "sure Vlad baby, anything for you. You'll destroy the tape afterwards, right?"

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:57 AM

14. The I'm too stupid defense may actually work for Donny and junior

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:42 PM

15. Too stupid to organize a conspiracy, but not too stupid to support a Russian conspiracy for money.

Of course that's stupid, too.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:47 PM

16. Nixon didn't have the skills to break into an office, but Watergate happened nevertheless

Come on, Bob, this is your area of expertise.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:11 PM

17. Maybe, but being too stupid and easily manipulated should also be reason for removal.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:46 PM

18. now we are taking the stupid

to a whole new level.

They never made an exact deal with this for that. Don and Vlad are criminals with a wink and a nod they knew exactly what the other would do.

Donny loved wikikeaks what 161 times during the campaign now he does not even know who they are....


100 contacts but Donny says they never met any russians.

Bob in this case, unlike Nixon it is the crime "Conspiracy" not the coverup ....

Just because Donny acts like a buffoon doesn't mean he didn't do it....He did it...Bob your job is to now inform the public on how why and what he did, Mueller and Barr have muddied the waters to say the least.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:38 PM

20. "I'm just a stooge! I'm not smart enough to be a crook! Really!"

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 03:12 PM

21. Has it occurred to Ol' Bob

that maybe Putin was smart enough to organize a non-committal conspiracy with a man who's weaknesses he knew well? Because if I can get a guy to help me out at every turn because he sees me as a friend, I don't need tacit communication or written confirmation which at best is not needed,and if things don't work out is more likely to become evidence against my actions.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 03:16 PM

22. Nobody said Chump organized it

Since the beginning we've been talking about his collusion, his going along with Putin's conspiracy.
Way to miss the point, Bob Woodward!

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