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watoos
(7,142 posts)without consulting the Secretary of Defense (do we have one yet) or the Joint Chiefs of Staff?
spanone
(135,857 posts)...and he signed the 'executive' order on stage in from of the drooling morons
oldsoftie
(12,583 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,867 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)triron
(22,011 posts)Trump can say "Sticks and Stones can break my bones, but names will never..."
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)shithole and the Republican party have put the USA in danger.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Talk about a coup. We've been coup'ed by russia with the willing aid of the rich kid.
rainin
(3,011 posts)I've watched this unfold from the perspective very early that he was turned by Putin. Everything he does makes sense from that point of view. The electoral college allowed Putin to be elected President of the United States.
triron
(22,011 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)in earnest thats 2 years away, as our only real remedy. In the meantime he'll smash all the glass and when russia sends the missiles in, itll all be over, but the crying.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Expect some huge event to destroy the 2020 election.
Whether overtly or by stealth.
2naSalit
(86,742 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Madame speaker. Frustration is setting in
watoos
(7,142 posts)we are normalizing Trump's actions. Republicans and the M$M are complicit but Democrats need to make a bigger fuss, doncha think?
See me agreeing. We need an American Spring.
Raven123
(4,862 posts)I read an article that indicated the Court refused to intervene when a previous POTUS pulled out of a treaty.
Making Dems position clear and focusing on the folly of Trump's decisions may be the only option.
spanone
(135,857 posts)They're back monday.
lindysalsagal
(20,718 posts)Without actions.
calimary
(81,415 posts)The lawlessness of this so-called (and flagrantly illegitimate - cause he CHEATED) pResident is out in the open.
This is out in the open. IN PLAIN SIGHT. He is OPENLY DEFYING THE LAW. Yes, Im SHOUTING! Is it okay with you to have a pResident who openly DEFIES THE LAW, America? How bout it, America. Is that OKAY with you?????
-Laelth
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)How many more laws and norms does he have to violate before he's done enough Madame Speaker? Do you have some scale that measures that or is it by the number of times?
I mean, next thing you know, Trump may actually order his subordinates to ignore subpoenas and break the law. Oh, wait...
Duppers
(28,125 posts)BigOleDummy
(2,272 posts)Been a real fan of Ms. Pelosi's .. but am mystified to put it mildly WHY she won't start Impeachment proceedings. The evidence is THERE, and so the frick what if the repuglicans howl? THEY ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANYONE WITH A "D" AFTER THEIR NAME ANYWAY. The "myth" of the middle is no longer viable, its truly gotten to the point of Us versus Them.
calimary
(81,415 posts)Madame Speaker, your actions on this one drive me to the question - um, what country have you been living in, in the last decade or so? Have you not seen and/or taken note of how divided we ALREADY ARE????? Hell, were already in a philosophical Civil War. Weve been in one since some in this country woke up one day in late January 2009, when it finally hit them full-on in the face that there was a black guy in the Oval Office and he wasnt the janitor.
Unfortunately thats the new reality ALREADY.
ALREADY!!!
Impeaching this lawless lying lawless cheating lawless tyrannical lawless dictator-wannabe may not make that condition any better or any worse. But in later years, I assume you would rather stand on a record of having upheld THE LAW, and that you stood up for preserving, protecting, and defending the Constitution of the United States.
Or wouldnt you?
Because THATS what its gonna boil down to. Upholding the law, or hiding behind political expediency.
Which will it be, Madame Speaker???
And one more thing: how many Democratic and independent votes do you stand to lose because of a failure to stand on Americas most basic bedrock principles - that we DONT have a king, and that NO ONE is above the law?
BigOleDummy
(2,272 posts)and I agree 100%. We can yell and scream all day long that we're the "good guys" here, but if we let these criminals go without even TRYING to stop them just how "good" does that make us?
WyLoochka
(1,629 posts)just how "good" does that make us?"
excellent question
calimary
(81,415 posts)notinkansas
(1,096 posts)Madame Speaker is, of course, absolutely correct.
As Speaker, I think initiating a remedy for this fiasco is (and has been for some time) in order.
Ball is in your court, House of Representatives.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)It's the only power we have, and it's our Constitutional duty.
-Laelth
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
H2O Man
(73,581 posts)SunSeeker
(51,630 posts)PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)orangecrush
(19,597 posts)larwdem
(759 posts)I want action like fucking yesterday
Perseus
(4,341 posts)the full unredacted Muller report, when I see Muller and the rest testify in public, when I see impeachment proceedings, the buffoon's tax returns, etc., when I see real action, in the mean time it is just words...ENOUGH!.
Words Words Words
I'm so sick of words
I get words all day through
First from him, now from you
Is that all you blighters can do
friend of m and j
(220 posts)I agree with all of you what a horrible person and a danger to our country. If Pelosii calls for a vote on impeachment next week and the House votes to impeach, what then? The Senate is not going to vote to convict Trump and the Articles of Impeachment become just a piece of paper.
The farmer in his field in Ohio or the waiter at the local diner doesn't know what the facts are that brought about the Impeachment. They may agree with the polls that show 57% of the public believe Trump lied about what's in the Mueler report, and they probably a big part of the 56% of the public don''t think the President should be impeached. They are the "silent majority".
And they are ignorant. Ignorant is not the same thing as stupid. They just have not been educated (about the facts set out in the Report).
Pelosi wants to educate them through hearings that are in process and are going to be on TV, radio, on the internet and every newspaper in the country. She is counting on that education to gain all the support she can to get Trump out of office through impeachment or the next election. (Impeachment will still be possible if the people can see how horrible and crooked Trump is and pressure 22 or so Senators to vote to impeach)
I think Trump will get us in a war, but not with foreign adversary. He will start a civil war or insurrection. Lets hope that enough of the citizenry will have been educated before that happens and a large majority (80 or 90%) will be on our side. That is the reason Nancy wants the facts revealed in a way that the facts thrown down the throats of the silent majority. Get the facts out in a way that the all of the citizenry will be aware of them. They will then be educated, not ignorant.
I wrote a piece a year so ago "From Democracy to Dictatorship". The administrators on DU sent it back to me and said they had elected not to publish it. Understandably because at that time everyone was underestimating how low Trump would stoop. Things have changed in a hurry. Now everyone is talking about Trump becoming a dictator. Lying, breaking laws, ignoring court orders, ordering subordinates to lie. When told by staff he would breaking the law his response has been "I don't care".
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Some excerpts from my article last year;
"if Democrats win the elections, they will overturn everything that weve done and theyll do it quickly and violently. He has also said that if the Democrats impeach him there will be violence in the streets. More recently he has said he has the military, police across the country, and Trump motorcycle gangs - all of them very tough and if the deep state and Democrats attempt to remove him from office, "it wil bad, very bad, very bad".
All of the alt-right pundits, Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Lara Ingraham, Bill O'Rielly, and Roger Stone have all said we will have civil war. Roger Stone told the American public that if they didn't own a gun they needed to buy one, a semi-automatic, because we were going to have war "like we have never seen before". A conservative radio talk show host said he tells friends and family to do 2 things, vote and buy a gun. He and Alex Jones of "Info Wars" were seen at a gun range practicing "for what is to come".
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I wrote that article a long time before Trumps long time attorney and "fixer", Michel Cohen told the House Oversight Committee in his closing remarks "if the president doesnt win re-election in 2020, there will not be a peaceful transition of power.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)I don't see their subpoenas being answered or respected, why is it that the buffoon's tax returns have not been made public? The deadlines seem to move instead of being enforced. Where is the Muller report in its entirety? Why is it that subpoenas for Muller, Rosestein now, and more have not been issued?
All I hear from Democrats at this time is crickets, and a few blahs that won't get us anywhere. They can talk all they want, they have been threatening to do this and that but the actions are zero. I have not heard Nadler in more than a week, where is he? And now Schiff is saying "lets defeat them in 2020"??? Are you kidding me? My heart dropped when I saw Schiff saying that...The one person I thought would do something about it...very sad indeed!
If there is to be violence because of the buffoon, then let it be. He won't go silent into the night? well, let it be. The republican senators will not impeach? then ridicule them, make sure everyone knows they are traitors, marketing can sell shit balls, then sell the facts of their treason, of their contempt for the rule of law, their contempt for the well being of the citizens, their allegiance to Russia, shame the MAGA people into answering in regards to their patriotism, you can't be loyal to a man who is destroying your country, you want to make America great? then be a real patriot and understand that the person in the WH is selling your country and doesn't give a shit about it or about you.
There is so much ammunition in the hands of Democrats to do something to educate the country, to expose the corruption, why is it that nothing is happening?