So Mueller is the good guy after all.

[madaboutharry]

Mueller was apparently horrified by the conduct of AG Barr.

There was initially a great deal of complaining about Mueller when Barr came out and read his 3 1/2 page letter. Well it looks like Mueller was BETRAYED by his old friend Bill Barr.

Now on MSNBC, House leadership wants Mueller before The Oversight committee NEXT WEEK.

This is a simple truth: The entire government has been corrupted. This is now a real crisis.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

1. Barr can be impeached....

And I think there would be enough Senate Republicans who just might vote to convict.

William Barr has discredited the Department of Justice, made it less credible and capable to represent the People

[Mr.Bill]

21. Most if not all the republicans

in Congress are so crooked they are thrilled to see the DOJ discredited.

[redstatebluegirl]

54. Not with the republicans controlling the senate.

[uponit7771]

2. Unnnnn, we gotta wait ... we need to know the reasons why there weren't interviews of

... so many people and why the report was narrowed to Russian government etc.

Lets see, but this is a tick towards good guy ... wish he would've spoke up earlier.

[SunSeeker]

32. +1

[maxsolomon]

3. That's the key: the entire Gov't is corrupted.

Sycophants and co-conspirators in every executive position.

It only took 2 years and change, but there are no independent agencies left. The FBI has been tamed, the IRS won't respond to a legal request from Congress, the EPA and Interior are in shambles. The CIA is completely silent.

Trump is bullying Congress like he bullies everyone who tries to stand up to his gaslighting. Will they take it, or will they punch him in the nose?

Impeach. Barr and Trump.

There's no other course, even if the Senate is corrupted as well. Put it all before the people, in the permanent record, in a trial. Challenge Roberts to uphold his oath under the lights.

Meanwhile, attack Trump's masculinity explicitly and relentlessly.

[PatrickforO]

40. Yes, by God! Impeach. Full speed ahead.

We might lose, but let's go down slugging.

[pangaia]

43. Destruction of US govt was Russia's intent from the get go.

Dems should be out there spreading this. Tell the big story.

[Volaris]

45. ' ...the CIA is completely silent...'

Oh, I bet they're not, at least, not the way we think. My guess would be that they've been compiling data since before Trump was elected, and it's in a file somewhere just waiting for some house intelligence committee to request it...

On more than one occasion, Trump has BLATANTLY smeared this nations intelligence services without reason excepting his own criminal ego.

I put to you that the CIA paid attention to that, and if the CIA is paying attention to you, THATS VERY VERY BAD FOR YOU.

[Funtatlaguy]

4. A real good guy would have called his own press conference

To correct Barr’s lies.

[madaboutharry]

8. Mueller is still Special Counsel and can't do that.

[coti]

15. Don't forget this is a company man who follow the rules you're talking about nt

[Wounded Bear]

17. But it appears he might be whistleblowing on his "boss"...

[coti]

18. He didn't, he wrote a letter directly that apparently somebody else is leaking about nt

[Duppers]

31. Abso.fuckin.lutely!!

[NewJeffCT]

71. He's a former Marine

and the chain of command is something he believes in, so him sending the letter to Barr is - as one national security analyst put it - like setting himself on fire in front of the Justice Dept.

[MFGsunny]

73. "SETTING HIMSELF ON FIRE" is a perfect descriptor for the integrity Muller showed. n/t

[babylonsister]

5. I am so glad you started this.

I always thought he was the good guy and was dismayed when I read so many negative comments here.

to Mueller, from me.

[canetoad]

9. So did I

And believe he followed rules, regulations and policies down to the last word. Some of the comments here were disturbing and not worthy of DU.

[babylonsister]

11. Hey, you!

Not worthy is right. He worked his hindquarters off with no motive other than to follow the rules and find out the truth.

[canetoad]

13. Yup. And he informed the AG

Of his disagreement in a formal letter. I think some folk wanted Mueller to start a twitter war with Barr.

As we are posting, a new tweet from Nadler has emerged proving that Barr lied to the senate about Mueller's reaction. Things are getting interesting.

[babylonsister]

14. Exhausting it is.

I'm very anxious for a lot of people to finally start doing the right thing but am not holding my breath.

[appal_jack]

47. I admit to past/present skepticism,

and would be thrilled for it to be proven unwarranted.

Today is a good step.

k&r,

-app

[LanternWaste]

56. I think his criticism was predicated on a lack of patience by his critics.

He didn't give the peanut gallery everything they wanted in one fell, dramatic swoop as a gift-wrapped present with a shiny bow on top, resulting in the immediacy of their battle-cries of "Fitzmas" or "See? He's just like xxxxx. I knew it!!!"

[Caliman73]

61. Emotions are rough. They override logic and good judgement almost all the time.

Mueller is not perfect like any one of us. He has his biases and flaws. I agree with you however, that he appears to be guided by the laws and by the traditions of governance.

What we have is a president and the Republican Party who are disregarding law, traditions, ethics, and other structures that have held together the United States and it appears they are doing so because they are concerned with maintaining their own power and serving the interests of the wealthy people who are their donors.

The negative comments come from people who are frustrated, angry, and scared. They lash out at people who are not doing what they "feel" is the right thing to do. You see that in how many people lash out at Pelosi and Schumer for "not being tough" and at the Democratic Party for "rolling over".

I think that there are valid criticisms of the Democrats, the leadership, and the system in general, but what we are seeing when we see the negative comments are the emotional overload that people are experiencing.

[marble falls]

6. This week. Check in again later.

[bluestarone]

7. GOOD GUY i say!

[blueinredohio]

10. I'll wait and see what happens.

[UTUSN]

12. Yip, I'm having whiplash!1

[coti]

16. Never thought otherwise

What's going on is pretty clear to those paying attention

[Cousin Dupree]

19. Not so fast. Let's see what happens when he testifies. I'm not willing to give him the benefit

of the doubt. He did not recommend indictment, he did not handle the release of his report correctly. He’s been around too long to give his work to Barr. You’d think he was some naive greenhorn. He knows the ropes. He out and out blew it.

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

22. He didn't recommend indictment because indicting POTUS isn't his call.

And who was he supposed to give his report to, if not the Attorney General? The bastards have already discredited Mueller plenty just with stuff they made up; the last thing he wants is to give them real evidence of unprofessional or negligent conduct to trot out.

[Duppers]

30. Oh gee...

"evidence of unprofessional or negligent conduct to trot out."

So that's a higher priority than saving our democracy?!

[Volaris]

46. The only way to save this democracy is to prove that we who are good,

WILL play by the 'rules', in direct contrast to those who WONT.
If Mueller played by the rules he was given, then as far as I'm concerned he one of the Good Guys, until we can PROVE that he DIDNT.

No, it ain't fair. Yes, i think it's problematic in the short term. But the more we insist on playing by the set rules of the game, the more those who refuse to do so, destroy themselves in the long run (because they look like what they actually are--dicks, who cheated).

And I think after Barrs testiomonies this week, ...
'we're in the Endgame, now...'

That there's proof that Barr outright LIED TO CONGRESS UNDER OATH, means he can now tell the world the truth about Trump, or go the fuck to jail.

[Nuggets]

53. Barr in jail?

Are you kidding?

I’ll believe it when I see it.

I refuse to trust any Republican at this point in time, including Mueller.

We’ve been hearing about how oh so honest they all are since the get go and then, one by one, after the damage is done, we find them to be corrupt.

There’s no reason to trust any of them.

[Cousin Dupree]

35. It was obvious from the start why Barr was put in the AG position. And Mueller, with all his savvy,

couldn’t see that train coming down the track? Even I could see what Barr was going to do with the report. I don’t know the inner workings of the DOJ and the Special Prosecutor, but it seems to me that there are ways to follow the rules while doing some back-channel protection of your work. You can’t put all your trust in crooks, liars and thieves. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash and maybe I’m totally wrong about all of this.

[Nuggets]

36. Baloney!

There is no law barring Mueller from indicting a sitting president, that was his choice. The Republican Party argued the exact opposite when Clinton was in office.

This whole Mueller is a good guy angle is being persistently pushed with no evidence backing that angle and plenty of evidence against it. Including his lame investigation. No interview of the candidate and his son who already lied about contact with Russia? Really?

Same angle pushed with Comey, Mc Cabe, Rosenstein all NOT good apples or straight arrows or whatever trite goody two shoes label I’ve seen given over the past 2.5 years.

I am of wary of Mueller with good reason.

[LiberalLovinLug]

57. I agree

He was a coward. A nice coward maybe.

Like Comey was, Like Powell was.

Frightened to be put in the crosshairs of Fox News, (even more) or Rush Limpballs, and other RW media, by putting his name on any indictment against a sitting President of a party that he paid dues to. He had every legal right and had a dire responsibility to at least bring down obstruction charges which were obvious, and were commuted in the open for all of us to see.

[SunSeeker]

38. Mueller could have at least concluded Trump committed a crime;

No DOJ rules prevented THAT, only indictment.

His failure to do that is a failure to serve the purpose of his investigation: determine what crimes were committed by whom.

[Cousin Dupree]

41. Yes, yes and yes!

[JohnZSmith]

65. We still haven't seen the entire Mueller report...

or all the sealed indictments, or all the cases Mueller handed off to other prosecutors, or Mueller's testimony.

It's easy to knee-jerk criticize, particularly when you don't have most of the facts.

Count the indictments, guilty pleas, convictions, flips etc. Mueller has accomplished against Trump's people so far.

Name one person who has done more against this corrupt administration. And Mueller isn't even a democrat.

[SunSeeker]

66. We know he didn't interview Jared, Ivanka, let alone Trump. That's inexcusable.

We know none of those indictments are of Trump. Mueller said he could not be indicted -- right in the report. And Barr now has control over those referrals anyway, since they are to other DOJ offices, not to state AGs.

[Duppers]

26. And he did damage by not making his letter public.

Thank F for whoever leaked this letter!!

[SunSeeker]

39. +1

[ecstatic]

67. +1000. nt

[tclambert]

20. Barr thinks he is the President's defense attorney rather than the nation's top prosecutor.

[world wide wally]

23. On the bright side, I don't think Mueller likes Trump.

He sees him for what he is... Not what he is supposed to be.

[Ponietz]

24. Okay, maybe, but his report is still pusillanimous

[pnwmom]

25. Have you read the 448 pages? n/t

[Ponietz]

34. Point to pnwmom

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‘Every press report and excerpt I’ve read leads me to conclude that...’

[DontBooVote]

27. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Ponietz]

28. Hope you're right

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Sorry, for not jumping on the —Mueller’s gonna save us—hip hip hoorah train, this time.
Thanks for your opinion

[Ponietz]

63. I've thought about your comment for 24 hours

Nah, its pusillanimous.
Were you surprised by how Barr handled this? No?
Was I? No.
Why would Mueller have been surprised?
This situation could have been anticipated and precluded with stronger criminal law enforcement from Mueller. I agree with Bill Maher.
Have a nice day.

[BigmanPigman]

29. Watch Rosenstein be the leaker of the info today.

After he resigns he leaks the Mueller letter to Barr...maybe Rosenstein will redeem his reputation? No Way!

I DO NOT THINK SO, but it would be a good twist in a book or film.

[saidsimplesimon]

42. Netflix is propably working on a new series as you speak.

What a roller coaster ride it has been for me. Since Barr's depiction of the report went unchallenged in the media, I thought the rodeo was over and the bad guys won.

This is going to be a story with the potential to equal the days leading up to the Nixon impeachment. My mood and outlook just received a recharge and upgrade.

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[BigmanPigman]

44. I have been listening to MSNBC and I am almost cheerful!

Congress can get Mueller to testify regardless of DOJ status. Apparently Congress can do a lot and they can have anyone they want testify. The constitution is on our side. This was unanimous and it isn't opinion. Also, several senators have already called for Barr to resign and for impeachment hearings to start. This news has definitely lit a fire today.

[Texin]

50. They can. But will they? When Barr tries to prevent Mueller from testifying, what will the Dems do?

Nancy and Chuck better have a better plan that "meetings on infrastructure" with tRump.

[nolabear]

33. He's not going to be an employee much longer.

And once he’s testified we just might get an earful.

[Lulu KC]

37. I knew it!

I never gave up on him.

[Liberalhammer]

48. At this point in time Never ever Trust a Republican

They have made it clear who and what they are. Even Mueller a life long Repuke.

[Texin]

49. For the OP: I think the jury's still out on whether Mueller is "the good guy" after all.

We'll know more after goes before Congress and testifies publicly. We know that Mueller is a standup guy and a straight arrow who has served his country admirably and loyally. What we know now is that his report laid out details about tRump's corruption and illegalities. I'll know more whether Mueller is a hero or a traitor at a later time.

Right now, we absolutely know that Barr is corrupt. He's been fully exposed as tRump's new-found Roy Cohn. But now any shred of respectability Barr ever had has been destroyed. Barr is a ruined man and all because he decided to throw in for tRump. Why? He had to have gotten something more for this ruinous behavior than a government salaried position. What was he promised?

[Miles Archer]

51. He definitely DID NOT HAND Barr what Barr handed to the public.

No, he didn't recommend charges against Trump.

No, he didn't come anywhere NEAR "fully exonerating" Trump.

That was all Barr.

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. I never turned on Mueller although I wish he refused to follow the rule

of a MEMO written by DISGRACED former deputy or whatever he was BORK, saying you cant indict a president.

That is who wrote that STUPID fucking thing, right?

[matt819]

55. Maybe yes, Maybe no

Yes, he secured numerous indictments and convictions. People are in jail. Some have gone and are already out.

But he balked on trump and his family. Maybe we'll learn more next week. I'm not confident that we will. Or, for that matter, that it will change anything.

We are - and have been for years - in uncharted waters. And too many of those plying those waters are long-term legislators or bureaucrats who are hesitant to take any more risks than they have to. That includes Mueller, Rosenstein, Pelosi, et al. And all the Republicans have to do is stand firm. To deflect, stall, and lie. To file lawsuits. The ignore subpoenas. Because to them there is no truth. There is no objective reality. There is no shame.

[pdsimdars]

58. "a real crisis" and we have to wonder if the Dems will react like it is.

[40RatRod]

59. About time a good cartoonist...

...does one of Muller in a cowboy hat with a marshal's badge and a couple of six shooter hanging by his side with Barr and Donnie running in the opposite direction.

[Ohioboy]

60. Mueller is a truthful guy

[Skittles]

62. I do believe he puts America above the GOP

but it's time now for him to SING LIKE A CANARY - enough with the politeness

[Honeycombe8]

64. Well, good on Mueller for sending that letter. But I'm not pleased with Mueller's actions.

Or non-actions, I should say.

[VOX]

68. It'd be helpful if Mueller would speak up. Hopefully he will.

And before Congress, with cameras rolling.

[Nitram]

69. Anybody who thought the boy scout was not a "good guy" was either not paying attention or

not very knowledgeable about the Special Prosecutor's job. Mueller is 100% by the book. He's not Comey.

[triron]

70. Bill Mahrer has a different opinion.

[lunatica]

72. It's wise to wait and see if the fight isn't over.

Unfortunately the hysterical make so much noise that it’s hard to be heard.