When are our leaders in the House...

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...going to start laying down the law and quit with the meaningless threats and ever extending deadlines?

[Kath2]

1. Good question.

I say impeach now.

[StarfishSaver]

2. And then what?

[SHRED]

3. Well

It seems we are finding out just how impotent the House is against a corrupt Executive Branch and party.

[Kath2]

4. Remove trump.

Then deal with pence.

[StarfishSaver]

6. Sounds great. What strategy fo you propose to implement your plan?

[Kath2]

8. I am no expert.

I just want to see justice.

[Hoyt]

5. What are they going to do, write a letter. It's disappointing, but subpoena threats aren't working.

[StarfishSaver]

7. What do you suggest?

[Hoyt]

9. Truthfully, bout time for our elected officials to punch a few of those GOPers right in the mouth.

Not much we can do.

I'd prefer if Mueller doesn't step up to the plate and say something that changes a lot of GOPer minds -- which is unlikely -- then, I think it's time to move on if all we are going to do is fail at cornering these rats.

Let's turn the focus to the elections. Continue investigations, but low key, just in case a true "bombshell" turns up. No more hearings like today that only make Democrats feel good, but don't move the meter in our direction, and may even hurt us by appearing impotent.

[StarfishSaver]

10. I think the meter moved today

It was definitely not a waste of time for the American public to see Barr's corruption.

[Hoyt]

12. I would bet good money that if you go to right/white wing sites, they are laughing at Democrats.

Our choir had a good day, the rest of the electorate doesn't see it like us.

[StarfishSaver]

14. I don't gauge our actions by whether idiots are laughing us

Because they're idiots.

[Hoyt]

15. The meter didn't move. Enjoyed watching Barr get grilled today, but meter is still on trump's side.

[StarfishSaver]

16. The Democrats got several serious admissions into the record that can be used later

in subsequent hearings and impeachment proceedings.

The most effective hearings in this case won't be full of Perry Mason moments. They're about building a case and the Dems did that very effectively today.

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11. 2020 will be rigged

Even more than 2016.

We simply cannot rely on elections now.
We must vote but...

[Hoyt]

13. 2008, 2012, and 2018 weren't rigged. In 2016, we weren't ready for Comey, trump and Russian lies,

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and supposed Democrats getting mad and either not voting, or voting for trump or Stein.

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17. Trump wasn't running in those

[Hoyt]

18. oh, so Russia only wants to interfere when trump runs.

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19. They ramp up

He's their guy

[Hoyt]

20. So, are we supposed to just give up. GOTV and shut this thing down in 2020.

[Kablooie]

21. Never. I'm convinced that Trump is winning a little more each day.

and I've seen nothing but empty words with no action whatsoever in response.

By the time we get to the 2020 election Trump could have it all sewn up because he's pretty much free to rig it any way he can and no one will do anything about it.
People talk about how tough and shrewd Pelosi is but I've seen none of it. She might be formidable against normal politicians but she seems frozen with indecision when confronted with Trump.

Nope.
We have no one who has the strength and moxie to stand up to him and our country is beginning to topple as a result.

[Azathoth]

22. They're not interested in laying down the law. This is pure politics for them

Pelosi et al have been pretty open about the fact their plan is to campaign against Trump with two years of political theater in an endless parade of oversight hearings.

It's telling that disaffected Republicans like Rick Wilson and Nicole Wallace are demanding more aggressive and urgent action than our own leadership. It took a quarter of a year for us just to request Trump's tax returns for Chrissake.

Whatever else you can say about Republicans, they are willing to fight with every weapon and tactic available to them and will only stop when they are utterly crushed by their opposition. Dem leadership, on the otherhand, are already back in the timid score-political-points-but-don't-rock-the-boat mindset that haunted us during the Dubya years.