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Thu May 2, 2019, 01:35 AM

John Pavlovitz: If we really loved our country...we'd be in the streets by millions now


Lots of comments on his twitter admonishment...



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Reply John Pavlovitz: If we really loved our country...we'd be in the streets by millions now (Original post)
Grasswire2 May 2019 OP
SunSeeker May 2019 #1
Grasswire2 May 2019 #2
Grasswire2 May 2019 #3
Control-Z May 2019 #4
Rambling Man May 2019 #5
Control-Z May 2019 #6
Control-Z May 2019 #12
Midnight Writer May 2019 #7
Bigredhunk May 2019 #8
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #9
lostnfound May 2019 #10
Blue_Tires May 2019 #11
ProudLib72 May 2019 #13
UTUSN May 2019 #14

Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2019, 01:49 AM

1. Yep. But we are beat down and numb, and are just holding our heads above water.

We jobs to go to, kids to get to school, laundry to do, doctors appointments...life.

And that's what Republicans are counting on.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Thu May 2, 2019, 01:51 AM

2. Paul Wellstone: "Stand up! Keep fighting!"

Imagine what life will be like if we DON'T!!??

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Thu May 2, 2019, 01:58 AM

3. The playbook of the autocrat takeover.

An early goal is to wear down the good people with outrage after outrage so they will be numbed and turn away.

The book by Yale Holocaust historian Timothy Snyder is a good resource right now.

"On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From the Twentieth Century"

Only $7.95, and a slim but pithy read. From it we learn what to do, what to watch for, and how to be in this moment.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #3)

Thu May 2, 2019, 02:30 AM

4. Good for people on this site

and some of the other sites that cater to political junkies like ourselves. But for the average citizen - they're not going to read a book. Any book. We're lucky if they watch/hear anything other than FOX or one of their local network channels. Does anyone even know what the average American is informed of in their daily lives? I dont.

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #4)

Thu May 2, 2019, 02:34 AM

5. The average American has to work too much for too little pay

and are too busy/worried/distracted to worry about much beyond their own pocketbook.

Shit, I barely made rent by the skin of my teeth this month. It's a constant scramble.

You have this fluster of activity all the time, but nothing comes of it realistically. It's always a break even point or worse.

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Response to Rambling Man (Reply #5)

Thu May 2, 2019, 02:38 AM

6. Yup. n/t

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Response to Rambling Man (Reply #5)

Fri May 3, 2019, 12:31 AM

12. Yes. I've been in the same boat

and feel lucky to have a roof over my head. I guess I didn't include my understanding of why those who are not political junkies have little honest input in their lives.

I spent a lot of years with almost zero knowledge of what was really going on in our world and country. Even a shitty marriage that gave me the luxury of watching prime time TV had little influence on my understanding. So, I totally understand the why of it as I have lived it. I don't understand the how (to-make-it-better) of it.

I'm sorry if I diminished the circumstances of where people find themselves in this moment.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2019, 03:33 AM

7. Aww, come on. Can't we just Tweet about how we ought to be out there? Like you, for instance?

I mean Tweet really aggressively. And then we can mutter "Dumbass" under our breath when we see a Trumpster.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2019, 03:41 AM

8. Uh

Okay. You lead the charge John.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2019, 04:01 AM

9. Maybe.

I demonstrated for months against the invasion of Afghanistan (remind me again how they instigated 9/11?). My husband went to NYC for a very large demonstration there (he was even in a clip on CNN!) and it did NOTHING.

No one in the administration gave a flying fuck about the hundreds of thousands in this country or the millions around the world who protested.

I've been saying for years now that there should be rioting in the streets about many of the things that the Republicans do. But it doesn't seem to matter.

Oh, I'll vote Democratic every time. I'll support someone running for President, maybe volunteer for their campaign, and will vote the whatever Democrat eventually gets the nomination.

But we have party leadership that keeps on playing along with the status quo. And people here defend that, saying we need their experience. The fuck we do. It's the likes of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Pete Buttigieg who are the future. She's too young, and he's fighting an uphill battle against his youth and gayness, but four or eight years from now?

All of the Baby Boomers (of which I'm one) need to retire and leave the running of this country to the younger generations.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #9)

Thu May 2, 2019, 08:57 AM

10. I agree. Demonstrated against iraq war, as did tens of millions around the world

GOP no longer cares
They get elected by FOX, the billionaires money, and probably some hackers.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2019, 09:02 AM

11. meh...

If we *really* loved our country we'd arm ourselves to the teeth and threaten to take over the whole fuckin' show... Why is it that only conservatives get to cosplay as disgruntled militias and drop all these thinly veiled hints at "Watering the Liberty Tree" and armed insurrection?

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #11)

Fri May 3, 2019, 01:00 AM

13. Not so thinly veiled

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Fri May 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

14. To the tweet (not the o.p. ) the only time it worked was against being Drafted to Vietnam

Immediate self interest covers itself in any number of guises, including idealism.






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