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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:25 PM May 2019

The majority of the American people do not want a criminal president impeached.

Only the people can save their democracy. Only the people can save themselves. Right now the American people remind me of the German people of the 1930s. They don't see the true danger of Trump and what he is doing. It is up to the Democrats in Congress to educate the American people. They have to convince the people Trump should be removed. They have to do something to get the peoples attention.

Impeachment hearings. Charge people with contempt, with perjury. Fight harder.

Right now, we are on a path where everything Trump has done will be legalized. An election will not fix that.

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The majority of the American people do not want a criminal president impeached. (Original Post) shockey80 May 2019 OP
who cares. impeach. EveHammond13 May 2019 #1
THEY likely aren't aware of what's happening. elleng May 2019 #2
Look at Watergate and the decline of Nixon's popularity over time. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #3
THIS !!!! uponit7771 May 2019 #6
You are making my point. shockey80 May 2019 #9
Not really. TwilightZone May 2019 #12
If I remember correctly, Nixon won by a landslide for his second term. iscooterliberally May 2019 #10
Uninformed populists.... magicarpet May 2019 #4
+1 This! Brawndo May 2019 #14
Americans near same place in polls on Trump impeachment as Nixon impeachment. What got people ... uponit7771 May 2019 #5
Maybe most people feel why bother since marlakay May 2019 #7
Many of those in the polls are Democrats... kentuck May 2019 #8
Or they believe that there could be a backlash post-acquittal. TwilightZone May 2019 #13
They should impeach Trump and stop thinking the facts alone will be enough for the people standingtall May 2019 #11
Yet. They felt that way about Nixon, too, until being exposed to hearings detailing his misdeeds. nf tblue37 May 2019 #15

elleng

(130,895 posts)
2. THEY likely aren't aware of what's happening.
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:35 PM
May 2019

What's with these polls? Anyone think they/this is accurate?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
3. Look at Watergate and the decline of Nixon's popularity over time.
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:39 PM
May 2019

Most people didn't want Nixon impeached at first, either.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/08/how-the-watergate-crisis-eroded-public-support-for-richard-nixon/

Even when his overall approval rating started to tank badly after the Senate Watergate hearings began, it wasn't until only about a week before he resigned - when the House Judiciary Committee referred articles of impeachment to the full House - that more than 50% wanted him to be impeached.

Patience. The fat lady is just warming up.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
12. Not really.
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:36 PM
May 2019

As noted, the vast majority of that graph is pre-impeachment. It wasn't the recommendation of impeachment hearings that caused the public's opinion of Nixon to decline and support of impeachment to increase. It was everything leading up to that, including all of the hearings and investigations.

It's really two different situations, but if you want to conflate them, then are you recommending that we not move forward with impeachment until the public sentiment warrants it? Because that's what happened with Nixon.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
10. If I remember correctly, Nixon won by a landslide for his second term.
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:00 PM
May 2019

Trump didn't even win the popular vote. We should move forward with impeachment and contempt and everything else. Right now this is more important than just about anything else. We won't have anything else if things keep heading in the current direction.

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
4. Uninformed populists....
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:43 PM
May 2019

Some too busy hanging on by their fingernails keeping their families financially afloat,... others simply don't give a sweet fuck and welcome a Fascist Theocratic Oligarchy because they are far too lazy and selfish to think and act upon what is best for AmeriKKKA.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
5. Americans near same place in polls on Trump impeachment as Nixon impeachment. What got people ...
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:44 PM
May 2019

... over the hump was Nixon's criminality ... AFTER ... impeachment proceedings started.

There are no good argument against impeaching Red Don

marlakay

(11,457 posts)
7. Maybe most people feel why bother since
Fri May 3, 2019, 01:46 PM
May 2019

The senate is on his side.

I personally think we should do it as if we don’t we look weak.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
13. Or they believe that there could be a backlash post-acquittal.
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:39 PM
May 2019

Or they believe we should focus on 2020.

No one really knows what the public's reaction to an impeachment and acquittal would be at this point, although many think they do.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
11. They should impeach Trump and stop thinking the facts alone will be enough for the people
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:07 PM
May 2019

to see the light. They need to be much more aggressive and start diving the narrative instead of letting republicans do it.

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