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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEverything really may boil down to Muellers patriotism.
With it looking like Rosenstein has gone to the dark side.
With it looking like McGahn wont be allowed to testify.
With it looking like we will never see the fully unredacted report.
It may just come down to Mueller.
Whether its while he still works for the DOJ or after he leaves it, his testimony is crucial.
It must be before live tv cameras.
It must be done with probing questions and follow up questions about Barr, Rosenstein, and anyone else who tried to influence the stoppage, spin, or outright lies about what is in the report both before and after it came out.
The key then becomes whether or not Mueller believes he should spill every bean or if he will just be a good soldier that gives minimalist answers.
The only thing at risk might just be our Democratic Republic.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)behind ONE candidate and take back the WH
Nuggets
(525 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)What are they going to do, fire him.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)or he will be accused of just seeking media attention.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Rosenstein, etc.
I'd love to see him seek some media attention to set the record straight.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Their modus is delay. Whether 'cons can legally do so, is another question. If necessary, they go to court, anyone can - and more delay.
[On a more positive side, Mueller and the Dems have considered this possibility].
BigmanPigman
(51,585 posts)Don't put too much hope in his telling us everything we want to hear. Harry Litman knows these people and last night he said that Mueller probably wants to tell everything and do more but due to his "by the book" professionalism he may not be able to do that. There are limits and security issues that he is well aware of. This is his life's work and he will be seen/viewed in history for this and his role so he will be very smart and will handle things from this perspective.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)as important as his investigation.
Maybe he should have learned from a real Vietnam hero, John Kerry.
watoos
(7,142 posts)In Nam were a lie, interesting.
Seems to me that Mueller gave Dems plenty of evidence for impeachment. Dont forget Barr hasnt released all of the report. Barr hasnt released the grand jury testimony where all the dirt is.
Mueller got the information, Dems are the ones beating around the bush getting the information they deserve. Dems will never get Muellers information because they wont hold impeachment hearings
manor321
(3,344 posts)We already have the main testimony from Mueller. It is in his report. The big extra thing he can add is to describe his conflict with Barr.
The witnesses are important: McGahn and his assistant, Lewandowski, etc.
Even without any of that, we already have enough for impeachment.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)He could come forward as s private citizen and be our saving grace. I'm not holding my breath but it could happen.
ooky
(8,922 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)He (should) already have full pension, am I right? He could quit today and lose nothing, but gain the ability to testify on all the great work he's done for the last 2 years.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Asians like a good soldier. Ill choose Kerry any day.
So far, Mueller has give GOPers and trumps what they needed. Will he come around in the next week or so? I hope, but wont bet on it.
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Just trying to understand where you're coming from.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)to kill innocent, outgunned Asians. Is that clear enough for you?
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... right now it seems that Mueller has -zero- interest in playing politics. I think he's really, REALLY annoyed with Bill Barr and we're going to hear about it next week. How can he have any interest in "saving" the Republican Party now?
I don't think Mueller wants to be a good soldier any more, but maybe I'm missing something.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)was just concerned the 4 page Barr summary wasn't enough. Now that the summaries and the redacted report has been released, Mueller has been quiet.
I hope you are right, but Mueller needs to talk very directly so that ignorant white wingers have a hard time saying, "No collusion/conspiracy, no obstruction" when he's through.
We'll know in a week or two. I'll keep hoping.
kentuck
(111,082 posts)Although my most sincere hope is that he will stand up for our country over the autocratic dictator wannabe.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Will Mueller prefer to go down in history as a John Dean and an Alexander Butterfield, or an H.R. Halderman, Howard Colson, John Mitchell.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Good luck with that.
and yeah they did everything I said they did to try and catch The Weathermen back in the 60s and 70s.
They failed at that too.