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ashredux

(2,605 posts)
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:18 PM May 2019

The Bodhisattva Trump

The Bodhisattva Trump

Trump is a Bodhisattva. He came to embody Greed, Hatred, and Delusion. By his example one sees how the Three Poisons are manifested. He is a teacher, in a negative sense. But a “teacher” nonetheless.

The Wheel turns slowly, but continues to turn. We will heal and become better.

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The Bodhisattva Trump (Original Post) ashredux May 2019 OP
Cool. Please don't forget to vote. MineralMan May 2019 #1
So...he is the Anti-Buddha? yuiyoshida May 2019 #2
Even an Anti-Buddha is useful - as an example of how not to act... backscatter712 May 2019 #10
The Boooo-duh Blue Owl May 2019 #15
Dude, you are making fun of my Religion yuiyoshida May 2019 #23
Comment was in reference to tRump, not Buddhism Blue Owl May 2019 #24
That's quite the spin. WheelWalker May 2019 #3
Your understanding of Buddhism is doubtless better than my rudimentary.... EarnestPutz May 2019 #4
He is not a Bodisattva. madaboutharry May 2019 #5
He is not a Bodhisattva BuddhaGirl May 2019 #6
IMHO, he would be considered a "hungry ghost." No amount of stuff/adoration/sex would Nay May 2019 #8
Thank you. RichardRay May 2019 #21
More like the Kali demon heralding the dawn of a dark age Ponietz May 2019 #7
Kali represents eternal destruction and rebirth ismnotwasm May 2019 #11
The Kali I was referring to does not represent rebirth Ponietz May 2019 #14
Eh. ismnotwasm May 2019 #16
"A bodhisattva with the lion's roar will appear. " lunasun May 2019 #9
He probably will end up a hungry ghost. leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #12
He is Rudra Taraman May 2019 #13
+1 Ponietz May 2019 #18
Trump represents the shadow side of humanity lunatica May 2019 #17
He's a troll SHRED May 2019 #19
Trump is the opposite of a bodhisattva. Coventina May 2019 #20
Bodhisattva x -1 RichardRay May 2019 #22

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
4. Your understanding of Buddhism is doubtless better than my rudimentary....
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:31 PM
May 2019

....appreciation of the teachings. But I've got to tell you that using Trump's name
in any way in this context gives me hives.

BuddhaGirl

(3,605 posts)
6. He is not a Bodhisattva
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:42 PM
May 2019

He is not a teacher.

He is an example of suffering, of one who is totally asleep - that a teacher could point to. That is different from someone who has attained through diligent work, a level of enlightenment and then dedicates their life to helping others reach enlightenment. No teacher who has reached enlightenment would ever express, or take actions, that are racist, sexist, xenophobic and filled with hatred.

A Bodhisattva will always practice love and compassion.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
8. IMHO, he would be considered a "hungry ghost." No amount of stuff/adoration/sex would
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:56 PM
May 2019

ever satisfy him. He's a teacher only in that Buddhism considers him a bad example.

RichardRay

(2,611 posts)
21. Thank you.
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:03 AM
May 2019

I was trying formulate my reply when you had it already handled.

I do agree with the other respondent who ventured that he could be an example of a Hungry Ghost, though!!

Ponietz

(2,966 posts)
7. More like the Kali demon heralding the dawn of a dark age
Sat May 4, 2019, 08:50 PM
May 2019

But I understand where you are coming from—regarding even the most negative persons as precious teachers is at the heart of tantric Buddhism.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
11. Kali represents eternal destruction and rebirth
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:19 PM
May 2019

Trump represents the ultimate creation in the Republican Party, hate, greed, bigotry, envy, the inability to share, destructive power for no gain

Ponietz

(2,966 posts)
14. The Kali I was referring to does not represent rebirth
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:30 PM
May 2019

As it does, generally, in western culture.

“According to Hindus, Kali (Devanāgari: कलि, IAST: kali, with both vowels short; from a root kad, "suffer, hurt, startle, confuse&quot is the reigning lord of the Kali Yuga and archenemy of Kalki, the 10th and final avatar of the Hindu God Vishnu. In the Kalki Purana, he is portrayed as a demon and the source of all evil. In the Mahabharata, he was a gandharva who possessed Nala, forcing him to lose his Kingdom in a game of dice to his brother Pushkara. Kali is similar to the demon Kroni and his incarnation Kaliyan of Ayyavazhi mythology.”

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_(demon)|

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
16. Eh.
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:37 PM
May 2019

This is why I don’t get into that stuff so much. Too complicated.

I was talking about the goddess of course. She gets a bad rap in western culture.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. "A bodhisattva with the lion's roar will appear. "
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:05 PM
May 2019

“A bodhisattva with the lion’s roar will appear.
He will use the power he achieved in deep meditation to benefit countless beings.

By seeing, hearing, touching or thinking of him, they will be led to happiness”

Bodhisattva Trump





leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
12. He probably will end up a hungry ghost.
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:19 PM
May 2019

I was thinking about this today. All beings have Buddha Nature. No matter how awful they may be or how awful the things they have done. Trump's personality is just like clouds sweeping across a clear blue sky.

Sometimes I find this hard to fathom. Trump and other sociopaths. Psychopaths just seem totally empty to me. Their eyes are dead eyes.

They are teachers in their own way. They are examples of what you really don't want to become. And maybe that is their real role in this life.

But I just don't think they are bodhisattvas. They are the anti bodhisattva.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. Trump represents the shadow side of humanity
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:53 PM
May 2019

He is a teacher in direct proportion to those who learn from him. He therefore has an important role to play at this time in our evolutionary journey. I’m not sure whether he has the capability of being conscious of that. But, of course, we see only a two dimensional figure, and how we see him is what matters. What each of us learns is up to us.

RichardRay

(2,611 posts)
22. Bodhisattva x -1
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:11 AM
May 2019

He is orthogonal to being a Bodhisattva in any n-dimensional space adequate to describe the state of being a Bodhisattva.

Or, more succinctly, “No.”

Or, I could wrong...

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