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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun May 5, 2019, 08:52 AM May 2019

They hate 'liberals" more than foreign interference in our elections



Regardless of what right wingers think about Russian interference in the 16 election, if u asked most whether they would MIND such interference to ensure GOP victory in 20, they would say no. They wouldn't mind. They hate 'liberals" more than foreign interference in our elections


To cling to power they are treasonous.....Do they hate democracy that much?
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They hate 'liberals" more than foreign interference in our elections (Original Post) Soph0571 May 2019 OP
The recurring theme I hear from right wing relatives Ohiogal May 2019 #1
...so they support communist intervention. n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes May 2019 #25
Apparently they don't mind their tax money paying for Trump's greens fees... Wounded Bear May 2019 #29
YASS! I am fluent in red neck and this is the case... nt Baltimike May 2019 #2
They don't exactly get 2 minutes of hate every day Turbineguy May 2019 #3
Yup! Years of Fox, Rush, Evangelical Right Wing Christian Crap, and just proud to be stupid has ... Botany May 2019 #4
So send a few of them to Russia to live for awhile. greymattermom May 2019 #5
Ends justify the means rurallib May 2019 #6
Precisely Sherman A1 May 2019 #7
And conservatives are perfectly happy with their minority rule. J_William_Ryan May 2019 #8
I often come back with this to my Right-Winger friends...... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #9
Precisely, and well said. kairos12 May 2019 #18
My right wing cousin greymattermom May 2019 #21
Tell that cousin it is because of CONSERVATIVES.... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #22
the rightwing hate of liberals HAS always been in existence and why I chuckle when progressives beachbum bob May 2019 #10
Opposing liberalism, which they've been encouraged to Hortensis May 2019 #11
the minute you ask onethatcares May 2019 #12
I ask conservatives on comment threads all the time if they are Christian Thomas Hurt May 2019 #13
Yes, they do hate democracy. paleotn May 2019 #14
K&R,There are few reasons to think there will be free and fair elections in 2020 uponit7771 May 2019 #15
They Selcome Would Phrase It That Way But Yes corbettkroehler May 2019 #16
Isn't that horrible? Protect from all enemies foreign AND domestic. They are traitors. pdsimdars May 2019 #17
If a foreign government committed cyber warfare on behalf of a Democratic Candidate & that yaesu May 2019 #19
I try to engage them with this line of questioning: jmbar2 May 2019 #20
Wish one of our candidates would ask China to find Rumps collusion. Amimnoch May 2019 #23
And...they like getting what they want more than anything. Money. Power. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #26
Those of us paying attention have known this since way before Trump doompatrol39 May 2019 #27
Putin seems to adore Jill Stein... ehrnst May 2019 #28

Ohiogal

(31,909 posts)
1. The recurring theme I hear from right wing relatives
Sun May 5, 2019, 08:56 AM
May 2019

Is that all liberals do is raise taxes so they can give generous handouts (which they often call "free stuff&quot to lazy people who are not deserving. (meaning people of color, immigrants, and single mothers) They really, really, resent one penny of their taxes going to programs such as food stamps and Medicaid.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
4. Yup! Years of Fox, Rush, Evangelical Right Wing Christian Crap, and just proud to be stupid has ...
Sun May 5, 2019, 08:59 AM
May 2019

.. taken its toll. They all know that Russia rigged the election and they even take delight in that
it causes people like us pain. Hillary was right they are deplorable.





greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
5. So send a few of them to Russia to live for awhile.
Sun May 5, 2019, 09:03 AM
May 2019

Let them come back and tell all their friends how much they liked it. Either way is a win.

J_William_Ryan

(1,748 posts)
8. And conservatives are perfectly happy with their minority rule.
Sun May 5, 2019, 09:11 AM
May 2019

Oblivious to the fact that a majority of Americans oppose the right’s failed, wrongheaded political agenda.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,722 posts)
9. I often come back with this to my Right-Winger friends......
Sun May 5, 2019, 09:13 AM
May 2019

"if it were not for Liberals,, you would not have ......

Social Security
Medicare
Hoover Dam
National Parks to visit
the 40 hour work week
a Retirement plan
Paved roads
Bridges
an Updated Interstate Highway system
Police and Firefighters protection
Civil Rights
Voting Rights
Opportunity for the future
Workplace safety protections
Clean lakes to go fishing in, clean air to breathe, clean water to drink
Safe skies to fly in
Public Education

And the list goes on. They shut up because all they seem to hold dear, they were convinced it was Conservatives who brought that about. Boy were they wrong!

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,722 posts)
22. Tell that cousin it is because of CONSERVATIVES....
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:21 AM
May 2019

There have been those eliminations, NOT because of Liberals.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
10. the rightwing hate of liberals HAS always been in existence and why I chuckle when progressives
Sun May 5, 2019, 09:13 AM
May 2019

spout "Why can't we all get long?"

they will NEVER get along with us and the sooner we all know that, the sooner we stop wasting time to "accomodate".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Opposing liberalism, which they've been encouraged to
Sun May 5, 2019, 09:14 AM
May 2019

equate with fascism, socialism, extremism, national decline, immorality, etc., has become the basic political ideology for large numbers. A basic frame of belief so deeply inculcated that hate isn't required to sustain.

After all, 20 years ago Rush had already been starting segments with "Folks, you won't believe what the Democrats want to do now" for longer than that. If it was, "Now they expect people to get up and go to work in the morning," his well trained audience would wait expectantly, minds wide open, for the explanation of how Democrats were -- of course -- perverting even that.

onethatcares

(16,161 posts)
12. the minute you ask
Sun May 5, 2019, 10:07 AM
May 2019

"Was Jesus a liberal or conservative" you will hear.........................................................................................crickets.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
13. I ask conservatives on comment threads all the time if they are Christian
Sun May 5, 2019, 10:13 AM
May 2019

most won't answer at all. Any conservative who brings up family values or Christian morality, we should laugh in their faces.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
16. They Selcome Would Phrase It That Way But Yes
Sun May 5, 2019, 10:56 AM
May 2019

they hate democracy that much. They sleep at night by telling themselves that the messianic tRump actually is our savior. If you're a practicing Satanist, he probably is your savior.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
19. If a foreign government committed cyber warfare on behalf of a Democratic Candidate & that
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:08 AM
May 2019

candidate became president I would be ashamed, the party would be ashamed, we would do whatever it took to make things right, to see that this never happened again. Repugs will work with any enemy, commit any crime, use any trick in the book & come out smelling like roses.

jmbar2

(4,861 posts)
20. I try to engage them with this line of questioning:
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:16 AM
May 2019

- Outside of the US, which country would you want to live in? What would be your number 1 pick, if money were no object?

- Why do you choose that country?

They will usually dodge a bit. Keep asking. Eventually, they will name a country with a good social safety net.

By removing the discussion from the US, it breaks them out of their trained soundbites. Sort of like talking to someone with Alzheimer's -- try to reach the memories and brain cells that existed before Rush Limbaugh and Fox news destroyed their thinking powers.


Alternative question:

- Which country, outside of the US, has the type of government and society closest to your ideal? No social safety net, no state healthcare, few rules and regulations on industry?

- Would you want to live there?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
23. Wish one of our candidates would ask China to find Rumps collusion.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:26 AM
May 2019

I’m thinking the only way to MAKE them care about or sovereignty and integrity of our elections is for one or more of our candidates to start asking foreign countries to find Rump’s collusion. Have our candidates have secret meetings with Chinese leadership, or leaked secret meetings with Germany’s leadership.

If they are willing to overlook the sleazy ass shit going on just because it benefits them, perhaps we should at least give the illusion that it is now benefitting us to get them to get off their asses and do their job.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. And...they like getting what they want more than anything. Money. Power.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:49 AM
May 2019

Greed takes precedence over everything.

Russian interference? Russian hacking? If it results in a new tax cut bill for me, I'm good with that. If it results in overturning Obamacare, it's all good. If it results in a conservative S.Ct., isn't it worth it?

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
27. Those of us paying attention have known this since way before Trump
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:29 PM
May 2019

Our side's inability to grasp this or to understand it and fight it is why we are in the situation we are in now. These people are sociopaths driven by hatred above all else. Our political operatives and candidates and representatives have been operating as though these actually were "people of faith" or that they actually wanted "small government" or that they were "patriots" and that they were voting based on "economic anxiety" and while our side was just waiting for these people to come around or while we wasted time and money and effort and elections trying to figure out how to reach the unreachable, they have destroyed our country.

And now, like with so many things before now (the Iraq war, terrorist attacks, the economic collapses) the people who are paid and whose entire job it is to know better go "How did this happen?!?!? Who could have seen this coming?!?!" While those of us that did slap our heads, put our faces in our hands, and cry out of frustration that nobody wanted to listen to the voices that were telling us this stuff long ago when we still had a chance to defeat it.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
28. Putin seems to adore Jill Stein...
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:41 AM
May 2019



The Mueller report found that they were ordering their bots to support Trump, Sanders and Stein.

A 37-page indictment resulting from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation shows that Russian nationals and businesses also worked to boost the campaigns of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Green party nominee Jill Stein in an effort to damage Democrat Hillary Clinton.


They either like the far left in the U.S. or they view them as a useful tool.

See also the close relationship between Young Turks and RT.
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