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Funny ol' world, innit? (Original Post) markbark May 2019 OP
If they aren't people; they are chattels. rzemanfl May 2019 #1
Neither markbark May 2019 #5
I agree the ruling is ridiculous. My point is as a matter of contract law rzemanfl May 2019 #6
Ah OK, gotcha.. markbark May 2019 #7
I will think about that again when the fundies start having rzemanfl May 2019 #9
Jebus. marble falls May 2019 #2
Someday I want to ask a rabid pro-lifer how they can sleep at night tanyev May 2019 #3
And this ruling was over a case in Ohio, no less Ohiogal May 2019 #4
Off to the greatest page malaise May 2019 #8
K&R smirkymonkey May 2019 #10
Very True ismnotwasm May 2019 #11

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
1. If they aren't people; they are chattels.
Mon May 6, 2019, 08:20 AM
May 2019

Is there any other possible way to interpret this decision I might be missing?

markbark

(1,560 posts)
5. Neither
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:24 AM
May 2019

They are neither people nor chattel but rather a frozen glob of meiotic cells that wouldn't fill a coke spoon.

The issue here is that the courts say that a frozen embryo isn't a person when it's in a vat of liquid nitrogen, but put that embryo in a living, breathing, VOTING woman and suddenly things are different. Apparently corporations have more autonomy than women.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
6. I agree the ruling is ridiculous. My point is as a matter of contract law
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:38 AM
May 2019

the hospital was a bailee for hire of the frozen embryos and had a duty of care whether they are people or a collection of cells.

markbark

(1,560 posts)
7. Ah OK, gotcha..
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:28 AM
May 2019

That I agree with.
Thought for a moment we were entering into a "think of the children" line of argument, and cells ain't kids
No worries!

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
3. Someday I want to ask a rabid pro-lifer how they can sleep at night
Mon May 6, 2019, 08:30 AM
May 2019

when there are thousands and thousands of 'babies' locked up in freezers in fertility clinics all over this country.

Ohiogal

(31,979 posts)
4. And this ruling was over a case in Ohio, no less
Mon May 6, 2019, 08:41 AM
May 2019

Where our drooling, overzealous misogynist of a governor just signed one of the most restrictive abortion bills in the entire country!

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who they want to punish, does it? Makes my blood boil!

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
11. Very True
Mon May 6, 2019, 11:54 AM
May 2019

OT, are you a “HellBlazer” fan? “Funny ‘Ol World” —That’s Constantine’s signature line

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