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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Mon May 6, 2019, 07:44 PM May 2019

...Mueller "will be concluding his service within the coming days."

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/442376-trump-move-raises-pressure-on-barr?fbclid=IwAR0TTYbysA_bgGVYDNOg_s5htB_n6mtSsPAEcNDsvMOyYOyNdaJZrhILKMU&fbclid=IwAR1PXl32FzvZF4qwaufux2xfiHdmNCwTkiKrTWTaHAAVDvIljbSL8HfTMRY

Trump move raises pressure on Barr
By Morgan Chalfant and Olivia Beavers - 05/06/19 06:37 PM EDT

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Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee are angling to bring Mueller in to testify on May 15 and are said to be negotiating directly with the special counsel.

Mueller is still employed at the Justice Department, meaning Barr would need to sign off on his testimony and could in theory block him from appearing. Mueller is also expected to leave the Justice Department soon, which could leave the administration with little control over his actions as a private citizen.

Peter Carr, a spokesman for the special counsel’s office, told The Hill on Monday that Mueller “will be concluding his service within the coming days.” Carr offered no information regarding negotiations surrounding the special counsel’s potential testimony.


“They could instruct him not to appear voluntarily, but then Congress would just subpoena him, and I don’t think there is any basis for fighting the subpoena,” said Randall Eliason, a George Washington University law professor. “If they tell him not to go and he wants to go, he can quit and then go.”

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...Mueller "will be concluding his service within the coming days." (Original Post) babylonsister May 2019 OP
He should leave or resign sooner than later. Cattledog May 2019 #1
Soon to be hired by a Congressional committee one might hope. WheelWalker May 2019 #2
THIS is my greatest hope! bluestarone May 2019 #4
+2 iluvtennis May 2019 #7
Wow, what a great idea! NT SayItLoud May 2019 #13
It would make sense that he resign before testifying. TwilightZone May 2019 #3
Finally someone is saying when he will be officially a BigmanPigman May 2019 #5
Sounds like Mueller talk for "I'm going to testify and if you refuse to let me, I will resign." W_HAMILTON May 2019 #6
+1 LudwigPastorius May 2019 #12
I like the idea of Trump squirming on this proposition JDC May 2019 #8
that is a pleasant thought... stillcool May 2019 #9
"But I wanted to be the one to fire him!" forgotmylogin May 2019 #31
Mueller outside the DOJ has no access to classified material or grand jury testimony. maxsolomon May 2019 #10
I think that you are wrong. Blue_true May 2019 #15
YOu are right .Remember when T took away someone's security clearance - I think CLapper? Amaryllis May 2019 #18
That's incorrect FBaggins May 2019 #25
The SC law plays into the AGs hands tymorial May 2019 #28
Maybe he has another (unredacted) copy of his final report lying around. Seems like there should be Doitnow May 2019 #32
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone May 2019 #11
I wonder if Trump will threaten to cancel Mueler's pension. Kablooie May 2019 #14
He can't. Mueller retired under President Obama. That locked in his pension. nt Blue_true May 2019 #16
Why does that matter? This is Trump. Laws don't have any effect on him. Kablooie May 2019 #21
He can't do it himself. He could only give illegal orders to staffers... Lock him up. May 2019 #23
I bet he leaves the DoJ and then complies with a subpoena as a private citizen nt prodigitalson May 2019 #17
I heard on one of the shows he's gone by the end of the month. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #19
I hope he's kept in a safe, undisclosed location until then. dflprincess May 2019 #20
Safe, Undisclosed location would be good. MH1 May 2019 #27
I think a capital police security detail for Mueller would be a good idea. Flaleftist May 2019 #22
Mueller leaves "in coming days" . . . "soon" . . when exactly? Anybody know? Someone should know. pdsimdars May 2019 #24
This is good wryter2000 May 2019 #26
Mueller should do the talk show circuit mainstreetonce May 2019 #29
Someone wake me up watoos May 2019 #30
Time for this guy to step up if he's the Patriot he's been painted. spanone May 2019 #33
Why do we have to "negotiate" the testimony of someone whose investigation was funded with $33m... MadDAsHell May 2019 #34

TwilightZone

(25,456 posts)
3. It would make sense that he resign before testifying.
Mon May 6, 2019, 07:50 PM
May 2019

I think he might do just that, considering Carr's comments.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
5. Finally someone is saying when he will be officially a
Mon May 6, 2019, 08:33 PM
May 2019

regular citizen and not DOJ employee under their rules and mandates. Yesterday someone was asked on CNN when he would officially be leaving but no one seemed to know for sure.

forgotmylogin

(7,524 posts)
31. "But I wanted to be the one to fire him!"
Tue May 7, 2019, 01:13 PM
May 2019

"I'm the best firer in the history of ever!" - Trump, probably.

maxsolomon

(33,285 posts)
10. Mueller outside the DOJ has no access to classified material or grand jury testimony.
Mon May 6, 2019, 08:49 PM
May 2019

Nor could he comment on it, I assume.

Nor would his presumably resigned staff.

I think this plays into Barr's hands somewhat - he becomes limited, and easier to ad hominem.

I hope I'm wrong.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. I think that you are wrong.
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:11 PM
May 2019

He can speak to whether redacted information was in fact classified and if not, he could describe what is in it.

This is a worst case scenario for Barr.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
18. YOu are right .Remember when T took away someone's security clearance - I think CLapper?
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:46 PM
May 2019

because he was pissed at him and it was a big deal becasue nornally even after they no longer hold teh office, they still have security clearance so they can consult with other IT folks.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
25. That's incorrect
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:17 PM
May 2019

It's true that retiring employees with security clearances might retain those clearances... but that doesn't mean that they can talk about the classified information.

He can certainly testify as a private citizen and probably doesn't have to go through the OLA to do it... but he couldn't discuss pending (or ongoing) prosecutions, release grand jury information, or hand over an unredacted copy of the report.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
28. The SC law plays into the AGs hands
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:27 PM
May 2019

hindsight is 20/20 Democrats didn't want another Ken Starr witchhunt we allowed the original law governing independent counsel to expire. The special counsel office replaced it. Under the current law the AG has a lot of power over the office of special counsel

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
32. Maybe he has another (unredacted) copy of his final report lying around. Seems like there should be
Tue May 7, 2019, 06:59 PM
May 2019

more than one or two if Mueller suspected Barr of being at all a mischievous sort. Wouldn't it be GRAND!

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
21. Why does that matter? This is Trump. Laws don't have any effect on him.
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:32 PM
May 2019

If he wants to do it, he'll do it.

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
23. He can't do it himself. He could only give illegal orders to staffers...
Tue May 7, 2019, 03:03 AM
May 2019

so they go to prison if they get caught anytime after...

...Just.Like.Cohen... Go directly to jail, do not collect $200.

They're not over the law like the POTUS and they know it.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
20. I hope he's kept in a safe, undisclosed location until then.
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:11 PM
May 2019

Sorry, but I can't help but think of William Casey.


For those who may not be familiar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey


Iran–Contra affair
Casey was suspected, by some, of involvement with the controversial Iran-Contra affair, in which Reagan administration personnel secretly traded arms to the Islamic Republic of Iran, and secretly diverted some of the resulting income to aid the rebel Contras in Nicaragua, in violation of U.S. law. Casey was called to testify before Congress about his knowledge of the affair. On 15 December, 1986, one day before Casey was scheduled to testify before Congress, Casey suffered two seizures and was hospitalized. Three days later, Casey underwent surgery for a previously undiagnosed brain tumor.[1][2][3][4][7][17]

In a 1987 book, Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981–1987, Washington Post reporter and biographer Bob Woodward, who had interviewed Casey on a number of occasions for the biography, said that he had gained entry into Casey's hospital room for a final, four-minute encounter—a claim which was met with disbelief in many quarters as well as an adamant denial from Casey's wife, Sofia. According to Woodward, when Casey was asked if he knew about the diversion of funds to the Nicaraguan Contras, "His head jerked up hard. He stared, and finally nodded yes."[18]

Casey died in hospital less than 24 hours after former colleague Richard Secord testified that Casey supported the illegal aiding of the Contras.


All very convenient timing for Reagan and his VP.

MH1

(17,595 posts)
27. Safe, Undisclosed location would be good.
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:25 PM
May 2019

I'm thinking Steyer or someone ought to have a fund set up to pay for a security team. But does our side even have connections to people like that (crack security) that we can really trust?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
30. Someone wake me up
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:37 PM
May 2019

when you get a date that Mueller is scheduled to testify. Why does anyone think that Trump will not challenge a Mueller subpoena? I do think that Mueller will probably testify, but I'm not sure how long that will take since we aren't doing impeachment hearings.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
34. Why do we have to "negotiate" the testimony of someone whose investigation was funded with $33m...
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:05 PM
May 2019

tax dollars? That's insulting.

Your taxes at work people; spend tens of millions on an investigation and then negotiate the possibility that the person that led that investigation MIGHT be willing to brief you afterwards. What a joke our system is.

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