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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:34 PM May 2019

I thought declaration of war had to come from Congress

I thought that was written into that document the Rump likes to wipe his filthy ass with. Now all I hear about is how he is going to war in Venezuala and Iran. How is this even a topic up for discussion?

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I thought declaration of war had to come from Congress (Original Post) ProudLib72 May 2019 OP
Congress hasn't declared war since December, 1941 rurallib May 2019 #1
The shrub's war went through Congress ProudLib72 May 2019 #5
1942, actually. TwilightZone May 2019 #6
congress has not declared war since 1941 rampartc May 2019 #2
1942 TwilightZone May 2019 #7
ah, rumania, i forgot about them rampartc May 2019 #11
There were six declarations in '41-'42. TwilightZone May 2019 #12
congress has ceded its war declaration powers to presidents nt msongs May 2019 #3
But the war powers act! What was that supposed to accomplish if not stop someone like the Rump? ProudLib72 May 2019 #8
dont they fund it? samnsara May 2019 #4
Yes, at least supposed to. elleng May 2019 #10
Never Rebl2 May 2019 #9
They won't declare war...they'll call it something else. spanone May 2019 #13
"Police action" ProudLib72 May 2019 #14
last time we declared war was 1942 spanone May 2019 #15
That is true sarisataka May 2019 #16

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
5. The shrub's war went through Congress
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:43 PM
May 2019

I distinctly remember Powell standing before the UN and lying through his teeth. That got the joint action that Congress sort of had to act upon.

rampartc

(5,453 posts)
2. congress has not declared war since 1941
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:38 PM
May 2019

no word yet from the founding fathers, whose original intent in any number of other issues can be miraculously channeled by "conservatives."

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. But the war powers act! What was that supposed to accomplish if not stop someone like the Rump?
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:45 PM
May 2019

Funny how things keep returning to the Nixon era.

Rebl2

(13,580 posts)
9. Never
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:46 PM
May 2019

did it with the wars in Middle East. Congress seems to want to let the President do that anymore. I believe they don’t want to make constituents mad one way or other, so they are happy to let the President make that decision.

spanone

(135,917 posts)
15. last time we declared war was 1942
Tue May 7, 2019, 09:00 PM
May 2019

The last time Congress passed joint resolutions saying that a "state of war" existed was on June 5, 1942, when the U.S. declared war on Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania. Since then, the US has used the term "authorization to use military force", as in the case against Iraq in 2003.

sarisataka

(18,857 posts)
16. That is true
Tue May 7, 2019, 09:06 PM
May 2019

however entering a conflict has never required a declaration of war beginning with the Quasi-War in 1798

The US has only had eleven formal declarations of war, involving five different wars (both WW1 and WW2 saw multiple declarations of war)

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