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Botany

(70,291 posts)
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:23 AM May 2019

So it was and still is all lies. None of this is new news too. He has been a successful con man.

Trump is not a billionaire.

He businesses lost money.

And he was kept afloat by Russian money so they could later use him and install him as President.

Russian money was even behind the Apprentice in order to sell phony meme that he was a big
successful billionaire businessman.

BTW none of this is new news because back when he was getting divorced from wife #1 Ivana
he could not come up with a couple of million in order to pay her off.

But he has been a successful con man.


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So it was and still is all lies. None of this is new news too. He has been a successful con man. (Original Post) Botany May 2019 OP
Yup Sherman A1 May 2019 #1
I can't believe that people ever bought into the "billionaire" thing. GoCubsGo May 2019 #2
As long as he's a racist, liberal bashing, bombastic, white wing Prez, his supporters don't care. Hoyt May 2019 #3
Yup. Botany May 2019 #5
If they love dirty water so much Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #7
That is from Delaware, OH 25 minutes north of me. Botany May 2019 #10
We must live fairly close to each other! Alliepoo May 2019 #13
Groveport aka Grovetucky? or Obetz? Botany May 2019 #14
I live in Pickerington- Alliepoo May 2019 #16
Pick Town used to be country Botany May 2019 #17
North Carolina perfect for dirty water DENVERPOPS May 2019 #19
credit where credit is due: he really is an amazingly effective con man anarch May 2019 #4
By Russian money you mean Russian oligarchs and mafia Ghost Dog May 2019 #6
Yup! Botany May 2019 #8
I don't know if there's a legitimate association Ghost Dog May 2019 #11
Stuff Botany May 2019 #12
Absolutely right. And I see the Prince Charles Charity connection. That's for sure. Ghost Dog May 2019 #15
Here's what IS new DeminPennswoods May 2019 #9
True, except for the divorce stuff shanti May 2019 #18
I distinctly remember the story that he couldn't.. Botany May 2019 #20
Well, that may have been what he (his attorneys) told the court, shanti May 2019 #21
But what about, um, what about Chappaquiddick? tclambert May 2019 #22
Donald has always been more image than substance. Aussie105 May 2019 #23

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
2. I can't believe that people ever bought into the "billionaire" thing.
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:29 AM
May 2019

Why the hell would anyone with that kind of money be hosting a TV game show? I guess they thought it was some sort of hobby?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. As long as he's a racist, liberal bashing, bombastic, white wing Prez, his supporters don't care.
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:38 AM
May 2019

Botany

(70,291 posts)
5. Yup.
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:44 AM
May 2019



And the PTB are fine with it too because he will keep packing the courts, get rid of those
clean air and water laws, tell the Christian evangelicals that he will stop abortions (even
though he has no doubt paid for more than a few), and help the rich get richer.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
10. That is from Delaware, OH 25 minutes north of me.
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:03 AM
May 2019

I have known these types for years and they are happy that Trump won because
nothing tastes as sweet as liberal's tears and besides Hillary is a dyke b***h w/a
liberal agenda that had to be stopped.

Alliepoo

(2,195 posts)
13. We must live fairly close to each other!
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:10 AM
May 2019

Delaware isn’t very far away from me, either-prob about 45 min if traffic on 270 isn’t bad! I live in a suburb just SE of C-bus and we have plenty of folks around here just like these two in the pic. 40 years or so ago this was a small farm town that has seen a population explosion and for a lot of these folks the small farm town mentality still reigns supreme. Never fails to amaze me. Should have moved to Bexley 20 years ago instead of here. They’re a much more progressive town!

Botany

(70,291 posts)
17. Pick Town used to be country
Wed May 8, 2019, 02:54 PM
May 2019

Some of the areas around Central OH are pretty damn red.

Did you know that Hillary had somebody murdered to hide Bill's cocaine ting?

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
19. North Carolina perfect for dirty water
Wed May 8, 2019, 04:09 PM
May 2019

North Carolina is the perfect state for dirty water......There are thousands of pig farms there, which makes for thousands of pig sewage ponds all over North Carolina. There are also tons of chicken and turkey farms. The owners love it when a hurricane hits there or every time there is major flooding from the rain. It floods their sewage ponds, flushes it all away all over the surrounding communities, and as a special bonus, they don't have to worry about paying to dispose of the crap in the sewage ponds.....In the last hurricane/flood it also killed the tens of thousands of pigs, and probably hundreds of thousands of chickens and turkeys.......

Yeaaaa Haaaaa. What do you suppose all those farmers in North Carolina they did with all those carcasses?????
Not to worry, they probably rounded up all their illegal alien laborers they employ to clean it up.......LOL

anarch

(6,535 posts)
4. credit where credit is due: he really is an amazingly effective con man
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:40 AM
May 2019

Yeah, he's had some help along the way, but most of his "success" if you can call it that has been due to his own talents for self-promotion and the uncanny ability to tune in to (and cater unerringly to) the deepest desires of the worst of us.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
6. By Russian money you mean Russian oligarchs and mafia
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:50 AM
May 2019

filtered through the likes of Deutsche Bank? Buyers of his condos? That kind of Russian?

Botany

(70,291 posts)
8. Yup!
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:00 AM
May 2019

The same Deutsche Bank that Trump and company are working 24/7 from releasing
information about the Trump Family's business dealings with that bank.

Trump was so toxic that no American Bank would loan him any money so he got
his "funding" through Putin Banks such as Deutsche Bank and the Bank of Cyprus.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
12. Stuff
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:09 AM
May 2019

An explosive exposé of a $9 billion Russian money-laundering operation entangles Citigroup, Raiffeisen, and Deutsche Bank

https://www.businessinsider.com/expos-on-russian-money-laundering-operation-entangles-banks-2019-3

A group of investigative journalists have uncovered what they describe as a $9 billion money-laundering operation enabled by Russia's largest private investment bank, Troika Dialog.

The operation, in which billions were said to be funneled from shell companies into the global banking system, was uncovered by the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project and the Lithuanian news site 15min.lt using leaked data shared with others including The Guardian.

The journalists said the data used in their reporting represented one of the largest leaks of banking information ever, "involving more than $470 billion sent in 1.3 million leaked transactions from 233,000 companies."

The OCCRP said the Russian operation, which it called "the Troika Laundromat," was active in syphoning an estimated $4.8 billion into Europe and the US from 2006 to early 2013 and was formed by at least 75 interconnected offshore companies.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
15. Absolutely right. And I see the Prince Charles Charity connection. That's for sure.
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:24 PM
May 2019

(And many of said Russian oligarchs and alleged mafia are based in UK, Spain (Catalonia, Marbella...), British Offshore wherever...)

But, although his photo is at the top of this article, where is the connection to Putin, or to the Russian government or State? Can it be established?

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
9. Here's what IS new
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:00 AM
May 2019

Trump is now on the verge of being a laughingstock and punch line to a raft of jokes. Of course his hard core cultists will rationalize this news, but the "Trump try-ers", people who voted for Trump because they thought he was a smart businessman who could make gov't work for or make life better for them, are going to have to re-evaluate their thinking.

shanti

(21,670 posts)
18. True, except for the divorce stuff
Wed May 8, 2019, 04:00 PM
May 2019

I don't think he couldn't come up with a couple of million to pay her off, he just didn't WANT to. Remember, he is averse to giving anything to anyone, including an ex-wife. He would do the same to Melanoma, were they to divorce.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
20. I distinctly remember the story that he couldn't..
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:02 PM
May 2019

.... come up with the money that the court ordered him to.

shanti

(21,670 posts)
21. Well, that may have been what he (his attorneys) told the court,
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:15 PM
May 2019

but he's an inveterate liar, so....

tclambert

(11,080 posts)
22. But what about, um, what about Chappaquiddick?
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:22 PM
May 2019

Why isn't Congress investigating that, huh?

And what about that cherry tree on George Washington's father's farm? Who chopped that down? Where's the investigation of--wait, he confessed? George Washington was an honest man? Fake news!



Aussie105

(5,211 posts)
23. Donald has always been more image than substance.
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:54 AM
May 2019

If someone constantly tells you how smart, rich, sharp minded he is, but no one else does, wouldn't you look for evidence that supports that? Just bluff, BS or fact?

But if your neighbour drives a flashy car and lives in a big house, maybe he is hocked up to his eyeballs to pay for it all? Ask to see his bank balance instead of what he possesses.

Same with Trump, lots of buildings with his name on them, but what is his bank balance? What are his income/expenditure details like? Tax returns would be very revealing!

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