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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Wed May 8, 2019, 04:58 PM May 2019

Here it Fucking Goes.. The same goddamn old shit.

A fucking leader of a country who is in trouble with the electorate or general population... In order to keep control of his/her power..At the expense of thousands of young men over..... bullshit..

After all when at war criticism of the Leader of that country (Trump) can not be criticized! for if they do they will be slammed with shame ( 'You don't support our boys in combat"?)

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-how-the-war-between-america-and-iran-will-start-1.7215695?fbclid=IwAR3pNRMNoetrxH3nK8THIJUSd0Tb4cEsMni8gj0xvNllH4E8i4sPWZtBHdw

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Here it Fucking Goes.. The same goddamn old shit. (Original Post) busterbrown May 2019 OP
I Look At This Differently..... global1 May 2019 #1
Nope!!! Though Correct! busterbrown May 2019 #2
Yeah, fuckin' commies and their card carrying, fellow travelers. Fuck Them. 3Hotdogs May 2019 #4
Same Old Shit over and over again. Why are people so fucken dumb to fall for this RKP5637 May 2019 #3
Fear and Jingoism Caliman73 May 2019 #6
Thanks! RKP5637 May 2019 #7
Canadian Bacon lame54 May 2019 #5

global1

(25,247 posts)
1. I Look At This Differently.....
Wed May 8, 2019, 05:02 PM
May 2019

If he starts a war just to keep control of his power - he is endangering the lives of countless military that he is putting in harms way for his own wants.

I wouldn't hesitate criticizing him for doing that and would feel no shame. If anyone should feel shame it should be he who puts us in that situation and his Party that circles the wagons for him.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
2. Nope!!! Though Correct!
Wed May 8, 2019, 05:06 PM
May 2019

Bush did it and never had a problem.. So did Nixon... Never lost an election.. " We are stopping Communism
from booting around the World"

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
6. Fear and Jingoism
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:25 PM
May 2019

The emotion overrides logic and the jingoism reinforces the idea the we are strong and the might makes right. They are very powerful forces.

During WWII when there was an actual threat to the United States security from Japan and from Germany had they had better success in Europe, I could see the idea of having to support the administration and the troops. It was a win it or die type of war. In every military action since then, it has been bullshit.

Vietnam was NEVER a threat to the US. The argument was the Domino effect, but we know the the North only adapted a communist ideology to enlist the support of the USSR and China to kick out the French and later the US. Communism did not spread all accross Asia like they said.

The action in Afghanistan was supposedly to get Bin Laden then turned into punishing the Taliban, now, were just there. Iraq was over lies about WMDs. Both were manipulations over fear of terrorism without even asking the question about why there was terrorism in the first place.

Fear. And this idea the the US is about spreading democracy. Yes, that is why we support Saudi Arabia in Yemen because Saudi Arabia is a shining beacon of democracy in the Middle East.

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