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if we don't get some kind of break-through he is going to burn it the fuck down (Original Post) demtenjeep May 2019 OP
Yes! leftieNanner May 2019 #1
I was thinking the "patriots" that will rally round a war president demtenjeep May 2019 #4
We need to bring back the draft leftieNanner May 2019 #8
Their "children" will get out of it as easily as those rich kids got into colleges BigmanPigman May 2019 #10
Agreed leftieNanner May 2019 #11
Nope - not unless it is different from any bill introduced over the years. Ms. Toad May 2019 #17
Very Good Point leftieNanner May 2019 #19
Would impeaching now stop it? ETStevens May 2019 #2
It would probably accelerate it. tinrobot May 2019 #13
Support counter-recruitment ck4829 May 2019 #3
I've been saying hurry up for a few months. Lot's of apologists here it seems. Chin music May 2019 #5
Pull the paychecks! leftieNanner May 2019 #6
We have a bunch of obstructionists bc, they are all in on it. Chin music May 2019 #7
Exactly! leftieNanner May 2019 #9
I just keep thinking who's going to save us from this shit? blueinredohio May 2019 #12
Nobodies going to save us but ourselves. Chin music May 2019 #14
A small part Delphinus May 2019 #15
who was it ? Jefferson? We gave you a democratic republic IF YOU CAN KEEP IT demtenjeep May 2019 #16
Ben Franklin Progressive dog May 2019 #20
Thank you. I couldn't remember who but I knew the quote demtenjeep May 2019 #21
If Trump continues to have the support of the Republicans Progressive dog May 2019 #18

leftieNanner

(15,089 posts)
1. Yes!
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:45 PM
May 2019

And SOON!!!

Because if he strikes either Iran or Venezuela, then he will be pissing off Putin. And who knows what kind of bombs will begin to fly.

leftieNanner

(15,089 posts)
8. We need to bring back the draft
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:52 PM
May 2019

Every young person in the country should be required to serve somehow - military, Americorps, Peace Corps, etc.

If the children of Congress and the White House are forced to spend a minimum of two years in service, and potentially end up fighting these BS wars, maybe our government might hesitate before Bombs Away!

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
10. Their "children" will get out of it as easily as those rich kids got into colleges
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:57 PM
May 2019

they couldn't get into without cold, hard cash. That is what Congressional offspring will be doing too. Geez, look at the fucking moron and his "bone spurs".

leftieNanner

(15,089 posts)
11. Agreed
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:59 PM
May 2019

But if the requirement for service is for ALL, then bone spurs might get you out of the military, but you would still have to serve in some other way. Maybe in a "shit-hole" country, if you're lucky.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
17. Nope - not unless it is different from any bill introduced over the years.
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:08 PM
May 2019

Every variation so far that I have reviewed has included an obligation to participate in a military boot camp. As long as the service obligation requires all Americans to prepare for war, I will oppose the proposal - as will many others who are consciencious objectors to war.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
5. I've been saying hurry up for a few months. Lot's of apologists here it seems.
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:48 PM
May 2019

Time is of the essence. Congress needs to start a slash and burn on funding. Tomorrow is a good day. Unless Congress is still on a 3-day week. Not sure what the schedule is. Nothing they legislate will be signed by him so.......What else have they to do? Meanwhile, the screws on those ships keep on a turning.

leftieNanner

(15,089 posts)
6. Pull the paychecks!
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:49 PM
May 2019

And legislation passed by the House won't get past Turtle Man anyway.

By design, our Congress is supposed to take its time and deliberate carefully before doing anything. Unfortunately, we need swift action right now.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
7. We have a bunch of obstructionists bc, they are all in on it.
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:51 PM
May 2019

The gop is a mobster clan of monied folks who want the whole country for themselves, bc, money by the boat-load, isn't enough.

leftieNanner

(15,089 posts)
9. Exactly!
Wed May 8, 2019, 06:54 PM
May 2019

And they are fully supported by the idiot Tea Baggers.

Holy Shit this is scary. My Dad fought in WWII in the Navy in the South Pacific and he would be so disgusted by the party he used to call home. This isn't my Dad's Republican party.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
14. Nobodies going to save us but ourselves.
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:07 PM
May 2019

Plan to make a good sign and go to a protest this weekend. Let's not let the spring and summer slip by. Winter sucks for walking picket lines. Connect w your local INDIVISIBLE or SUPERMAJORITY, and let the dogs of war loose.
PS...Mr Raskin gave a 3.5 minute slew of good picket sign topics today.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
15. A small part
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:10 PM
May 2019

of the news today made me say to myself ... "I don't think there's any way to pull out of this mess." The entire KGOP are acting with brazen impunity.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
16. who was it ? Jefferson? We gave you a democratic republic IF YOU CAN KEEP IT
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:55 PM
May 2019

I believe it is already gone

Progressive dog

(6,902 posts)
20. Ben Franklin
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:11 PM
May 2019
McHenry’s notes were first published in The American Historical Review, vol. 11, 1906, and the anecdote on p. 618 reads: “A lady asked Dr. Franklin Well Doctor what have we got a republic or a monarchy. A republic replied the Doctor if you can keep it.”

https://www.bartleby.com/73/1593.html

Progressive dog

(6,902 posts)
18. If Trump continues to have the support of the Republicans
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:08 PM
May 2019

in the Senate., the USA will survive but it won't be a Republic.

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