EXACTLY THIS

[Soph0571]

I have to say for all the bollocks that we have to put up with at the moment re Brexit at least we don't have to worry about reproductive justice - well at least in 3 of the 4 UK countries - NI is the bible belt of northern Europe...

[mahina]

1. Good luck and thanks for this.

Do you think there will be a referendum PT 2?

[Soph0571]

2. I think that we are going to go through chaos

I think the government will collapse
There will be a general election
There will no over all winner and so nothing will get through Parliament....

I am hoping we stay in by accident at this point

[mahina]

3. I'm hoping that for the UK as well.

It just seems leaving is a ticket downhill. But I don’t know anything about life there.

We have a park, Thomas Square, named after a British person who protected the Kingdom of Hawaii’s sovereignty. There was a branch of our ali’i families here who were Anglophiles. I wish those ali’i had won.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulet_affair_(1843)

[Hortensis]

4. At some point there are two people to consider.

When is the question, not if.

[stopdiggin]

7. inside my body

As long as you are living inside my body ...

I know that sounds very black and white (and it is) .. but as you point out, a line and a distinction must be drawn at some point. As much as I struggle with the issue, I can't find a clear line that makes any more ethical, moral or legal sense. Can you?

[Hortensis]

9. Well, that's your feeling about yourself.

To the best of my knowledge, both current law and science do not say that being in or out of a mother’s body is what determines whether someone is a person. I do know a near- or full-term baby before a cesarean section isn’t a tissue mass and a human being after.

But if I recollect, discussing abortion may be against the TOS. So we should probably break this off and agree we’re not going to change minds anyway.

[Brawndo]

8. Either a woman controls her own body or the state does, which is it?

[Vinca]

5. I heard somewhere that one of the anti-abortion law states in the news may propose

capital punishment as a penalty. Guess they don't get irony either.

[Soph0571]

6. Never met a right wing reactionary

That could spell irony never mind understand it