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Sat May 11, 2019, 11:58 AM

The media keeps saying Trump is stalling till...

...the 2020 election, trying to hold up subpoenas and testimony of key witnesses; But I don't think that's it. He's waiting for the next budget fight which is when? September? He's going to shut it all down and hold the nation hostage so he can either maintain power or walk away a free man. Bet?

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Reply The media keeps saying Trump is stalling till... (Original post)
Trueblue Texan May 2019 OP
malaise May 2019 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #2
Nuggets May 2019 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #4
Nuggets May 2019 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #7
Nuggets May 2019 #8
snort May 2019 #5
PufPuf23 May 2019 #9
snort May 2019 #10
PufPuf23 May 2019 #11

Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:02 PM

1. Only if you believe the Con has all the cards

The biggest loser is going down - watch the ride.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:18 PM

2. The courts have ways of moving fast if necessary.

United States v. Nixon proceeded very quickly, as these things go. The tapes were subpoenaed in April of 1974, but Nixon turned over only some edited transcripts and wanted the judge to quash the subpoena. The judge denied the motion and ordered the tapes to be turned over by May 31. Both Nixon and Jaworski appealed the order directly to the Supreme Court, which heard arguments on July 8. The opinion was issued less than three weeks later, on July 24 (Nixon resigned on August 9). That's only three months between the initial issuance of the subpoena and the final Supreme Court decision, which was a Big Fucking Deal (read the case if you want to experience déjà-vu all over again). Spanky can't count on dragging these battles out for another year or so.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:29 PM

3. Sure he can keep stonewalling

 

Worked for Reagan worked for Bush.

This is what happened to the “roadmap to impeachment”

The 1974 "road map" remained under seal by a federal court until it was released by federal archivists in 2018.


There are no known Republicans who will do what’s right, this isn’t the early 70s.

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #3)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:32 PM

4. Republicans weren't eager to do what was right then, either.

The proposed articles of impeachment were voted out of the HJC almost entirely along party lines. Even after the "smoking gun" tape came out, conclusively proving Nixon attempted to obstruct justice, the GOPers still didn't want to impeach him.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:49 PM

6. Baloney

 

The AG quit
John Dean caved. The entire investigative staff quit and the AG Richardson resigned because he refused to fire investigator Cox , the new AG Ruckleshaus also refused to fire Cox and resigned.

The news media wasn’t just going along with Nixon.

How many other euphemisms has the NYT used for Trump’s lies now?

CNN had trumps former campaign manager on their nightly panel to discuss the election. He was “fired” from trumps campaign and hired in June 2016 by CNN. He quit Nov 11, 2016.

I don’t see any Republican doing anything close to that, in fact quite the opposite.



You’ll notice both of these news sources were the ones trump specifically called out as “fake!” or the failing nyt!”

Makes me wonder how many progressives went running to these supposed enemies of trump.


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Response to Nuggets (Reply #6)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:53 PM

7. I was speaking of the GOPers in Congress, which weren't much better than what we have now.

Republicans in the executive branch, including the DoJ, have quit, but the politicians are afraid to.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #7)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:55 PM

8. Makes no difference

 

The ppl in charge are helping him out, ALL Republicans.
That was not he case then.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:36 PM

5. Waiting for the war.

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Response to snort (Reply #5)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:56 PM

9. Trump starting a hot war or wars is what most worries me.

Just about anything that comes out, Trump and the GOP will lie and spin abetted by the MSM (that normalizes the absurb).

What passes for media is by and large grooming and entertainment. Too much is left unsaid, what is said is in an acceptable range to the vested interests in control.

Banks, large corporations, and MI Complex will remain unscathed.

Most lives don't matter.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #9)

Sat May 11, 2019, 12:59 PM

10. It's the reason walrus face was hired.

The ultimate distraction.

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Response to snort (Reply #10)

Sat May 11, 2019, 01:06 PM

11. I am continually flabbergasted that people like Bolton are allowed

anywhere near positions of great power and influence even more so when they are loser retreads ala Bolton.

Its like (and probably this is truth) Bolton was put in his position to cause chaos.

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