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Stern said his interviews absolutely had a positive impact on Trumps political fortunes, and he wished that he couldve had Hillary Clinton on his show to do the same for her. Stern went on to express his doubt that Trump even wanted to be president, and he summarized his conflicted feelings about Trump by saying The guy I knew I didnt know this was him.
Thats when Stern suggested Trump is faking his anti-abortion position.
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Video at the link.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Because I don't believe any of the far right (religious members included) are any more sincere than Trump.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)that abortion and woman's rights are rhetorical "red meat", I agree. Republican women are cowards as a whole, the majority work against their own best interests. imo
OneBro
(1,159 posts)He's appointing right wing, anti-choice judges, and he's signing whatever the Federalist Society, the NRA, Fox News, and Jerry Falwell, Jr., put on his desk.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)He's not pro-choice. He's not pro-life. He's for whatever will get him where he needs to go. The dude lacks any moral conviction on anything.
In many ways, that's worse than these ardent pro-lifers because they're so lost in their beliefs you can at least understand their fault. Trump literally doesn't care but will play up the rhetoric and push a false narrative just to advance his own hate-filled politics.
moose65
(3,166 posts)Trump is totally amoral - he doesn't give a shit about anything, except making himself look good. He would throw all of his children to wolves if he thought it would get him good ratings. His statement about shooting someone on 5th Avenue was probably the only moment of self-awareness he has ever had.
Wounded Bear
(58,649 posts)Multi-layered fakery, all the way down.
Shit, he lies about his lies.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)And it's been a lie for years. He lied to banks. He lied to investors. I'm sure he's lied to his kids, all his wives. He gets away with it because when he tells a lie, he believes it's true.
At some point in the future, our children and children's children will study this period and say, how did this happen. Hopefully, I'm alive and able to try to explain it. Or maybe they'll be able to explain it to me.
One of the things I like about being older is being able to put events that happened during my life into context for people younger than me. It's a fun discussion sometimes.
calimary
(81,240 posts)It gives me a perspective and a longer view - the kind you dont have unless youve got several decades of adulthood under your belt.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)He had the power to kill the Trump campaign and instead he shilled for him
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)Most people who voted for Trump have no idea who Howard Stern is.
Hawaii Hiker
(3,166 posts)all the tapes of past Stern interviews w/Trump were released, he never held back anything.....But like the Access Hollywood tape, his supporters didn't care...
The person to be pissed at is Mark Burnett, who is the likely reason why the Apprentice tapes have never been released....
Stern doesn't agree with Trump on ANYTHING politically, I'm a regular listener of his show, and he has voted for all Democratic nominees in recent elections going back to 1992...
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Hawaii Hiker
(3,166 posts)politically, Trump and Stern couldn't be any further apart..
https://mashable.com/2017/09/25/trump-melania-howard-stern/
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)He always said he supported Hillary up until the election. He said she did a great job for NY in the Senate. I think he was just as surprised as we all were that that shitheel won.
The Apprentice guy, though, is actively quashing the tapes and refuses to discuss them.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)I reject your premise completely.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)IcyPeas
(21,869 posts)C'mon. Stern can't be held responsible for Trump winning.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)regarding being a social conservative on matters like abortion. trump doesn't know what being sincere is. He has zero integrity. He is a con man to the nth degree, always has been and always will be. Being a hypocrite doesn't concern trump at all. All he cares about is himself and what he, in his tiny brain, considers winning.
delisen
(6,043 posts)just a couple of guys making disgusting jokes about women ......gee who would've thought Don the Con would one day put so many women's lives at risk????
The lives of the Central Park Five teenagers did not matter to Stern when he gave Trump a forum, the workers stiffed by Trump did not matter to Stern, the history of money laundering did not matter---so now something matters at this late date?
Howard thought he himself was this edgy entertainer, now he looks like a Trump enabler, making excuses for himself.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)... I still see a fundamental difference between Stern and Trump. Yes, both are rude, both have been in shock-style entertainment, and both have traded in misogyny.
But still, Stern cannot conceive in lying about a principle like Choice. He believes in it, and part of his persona is to be honest about this belief. Meanwhile, Trump says whatever is convenient, even now that his shock-entertainment grifting gig happens to be President of the United States.
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delisen
(6,043 posts)in anything.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)To a fault, even.
In our modern times, where truth is presented as a weakness and Bullshit is King, that can go a long way for those of us who appreciate that quality.
cilla4progress
(24,731 posts)an abortion or two.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)The way he always "styled himself" for public consumption, prior to entering "politics, would make paying for abortions just another part of his lifestyle. We KNOW he wanted Marla to have one, and didn't want Melania to have a baby unless she promised to immediately get her figure back.
Mister Ed
(5,931 posts)Abortion is a right reserved for them alone. Once abortion is outlawed in the US, they'll just have their wives, daughters, or mistresses hop on a plane and go get one whenever needed.
Other women? Off to the back alley with them, and maybe off to prison.
PJMcK
(22,035 posts)Chalco
(1,308 posts)Plus, he's probably paid for his kids to have them.
Mosby
(16,309 posts)kimbutgar
(21,139 posts)It will be interesting if Stern gets a twitter beat down.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)If he ever said he was pro choice it would ensure his landslide defeat.
He is in bed with the far right because they have proven they will vote for anyone up to and including Hitler as long as he cuts taxes and pushes guns, religion, anti-gay ideas, etc.