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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe only tensions related to Iran are being orchestrated by the US, Israel and
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Saudi Arabia. Apparently they have not killed enough people, destroyed enough infrastructure or looted enough oil rich countries.
These are the real terrorists on this planet.
Thanks for the heads up on spelling
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)The so-called neo-cons who dominated the Bush presidency have been resuscitated by Trump. Their intent with the urging of Israel is to to goad Iran into a war. Israel only concern is the total destruction of Iran. Firstly, they got Trump to pull out of the Iran Nuclear agreement, Secondly, they placed additional sanctions on Iran and are attempting to force our former, yes former allies, to recognize them. Mean while the fact that Israel secretly devolved an extensive nuclear arsenal while lying to world is totally neglected. The real fear of a nuclear holocaust is that Israel would not hesitate o use them. I am not apologizing for the illegal actions of Iran, but the allies accomplished a significant step in getting Iran to agree to a freeze on their nuclear development. Isn't strange that we can demand that the Iranians can not have lethal nuclear weapons while we turn a blind eye to the fact the Israel has an extensive arsenal.
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)everything that you say here!
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Those PNACers are the undead.
sarabelle
(453 posts)I hope you don't get Alerted on for the truth you post.
malaise
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and given that it was Saudi Arabia that attacked the US with the Twin Towers in New York, one would have to ask how we got here.
Just imagine if Iran was terrorizing the US with a war ship off the US coast.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)He could give 2 shits about who's in charge there. He wants another grift to line his pockets.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Cuba needs Venezuela.
Raster
(20,998 posts)safeinOhio
(32,674 posts)the Shah and liberating all that oil.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Rape and plunder.
watoos
(7,142 posts)I got a spanking for saying something negative about Israel. It doesn't matter if it is true.
How many countries are going to back a US, Saudi, Israeli alliance in a war with Iran? I saw a photo of the "damaged Saudi empty oil tanker that Iran supposedly attacked. It looked like it bumped into something.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)can you imagine Trump, the CIC, in a war with Iran?
There is an article on Raw Story now that makes an excellent case for an impeachment hearing. The author argues that an impeachment hearing would hurt Trump's reelection chances.
I wasn't aware of the fact that chief justice Roberts would chair the impeachment conviction hearing in the Senate.
Republicans couldn't orchestrate the hearing.
gilligan
(194 posts)PatSeg
(47,419 posts)when he starts saber-rattling. He has good reason to start a military conflict, as the many investigations start to close in on him, his administration, and his family. I have no doubt he will use any and every resource available to protect his sorry ass. He is a typical tyrant, though more reactive than many.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Let's hope the msm does not repeat that mistake of uncritical reporting.
spanone
(135,830 posts)malaise
(268,968 posts)You have to wonder if Cheney isn't still running the show from his crypt
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)We are truly unfortunate in this respect.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)d recommend this a thousand times!
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Iran Supreme Leader: "There will be no war with U.S."
i think that was the green light to blame Yemen for the whole mess and the Saudis to go bomb them some more
Crisis averted
Xolodno
(6,390 posts)...and whose wife is Persian (and I have my origin from Russia). Essentially an unforgivable sin in the eyes of some, I agree with you.
Israel's worst enemy is itself right now...and just like the three mobs that were fighting for control of Jerusalem before the Romans retook it, don't see the writing on the wall. This next statement will probably get me alerted, the Palestinians are their blood brothers. Contrary to myth, the whole of Israel wasn't forced out. In fact the province of Judah was about a third of the size of the country today. Many Jewish villages outside of that province remained and nor were all the Jewish villages in that province force-ably evicted. Mainly only those that revolted. Over time, many of them converted to Islam for the economic benefits, similar beliefs and persecution from Christians. Then of course, some were forced conversions, Turkey has records from the Ottoman Empire where this happened. Likewise, the Palestinian claim that they are Caananites is BS to, they migrated north where they held a majority, which is present day Lebanon.
The House of Saud see's Iran as it's direct competitor and threat in the region, and haven't gotten over the Shia vs. Sunni fight. They want the swine eating Americans to do their dirty work in subduing Iran. They know from the proxy war in Yemen (who they see as dogs) a direct fight, no matter who wins will leave them weak and ripe for being taking over. Israel sides with them because they are the first to give up on creating another diaspora....and if you ask me, they haven't, just biding their time.
malaise
(268,968 posts)and yes it's a mess
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)And yes, it is...
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EX500rider
(10,842 posts)Iran funding warfare and terrorism and sending weapons up to and including rockets & intermittent range ballistic missiles for some to:
Yemen
Syria
Lebanon
Gaza
Afghanistan
atreides1
(16,076 posts)But compared to the US, the Iranians are amateurs!!!
https://listverse.com/2009/07/11/10-cases-of-american-intervention-in-latin-america/
https://dissidentvoice.org/2015/03/the-vicious-circle-of-u-s-military-involvement-in-africa/
EX500rider
(10,842 posts)I think we are wrapping up our Syrian deal.
Cause Iran has about a dozen they keep going.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)malaise
(268,968 posts)for all of us
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But Iran refuses to submit.
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