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malaise

(268,968 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:16 AM May 2019

The only tensions related to Iran are being orchestrated by the US, Israel and

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Saudi Arabia. Apparently they have not killed enough people, destroyed enough infrastructure or looted enough oil rich countries.
These are the real terrorists on this planet.

Thanks for the heads up on spelling

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The only tensions related to Iran are being orchestrated by the US, Israel and (Original Post) malaise May 2019 OP
+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat May 2019 #1
Bolton is a extreme PNAC war monger olegramps May 2019 #16
I agree totally with BlueMTexpat May 2019 #20
Excellent post! I totally agree. scarletwoman May 2019 #33
Thank you for saying that. sarabelle May 2019 #2
Given that the treaty with Iran was working fine malaise May 2019 #3
Trump definitely wants to get his tiny hands on the oil. In Venezuela, too. Vinca May 2019 #4
Problem in Venezuela Trump's Russian buddies are wanting to back Soviet era clients. gordianot May 2019 #8
Unfortunately, I could not agree more... and having Bolton* as point man virtually assures bloodshed Raster May 2019 #5
K&R ck4829 May 2019 #6
They are looking forward to reinstalling safeinOhio May 2019 #7
A continuation of the Cheney foreign policy erronis May 2019 #9
Be careful malaise, watoos May 2019 #10
And for some reason, it's too much trouble to impeach him. I guess we wait till it's too late. pdsimdars May 2019 #11
I totally agree, watoos May 2019 #13
So it goes gilligan May 2019 #12
Trump makes me really nervous PatSeg May 2019 #14
Well, a country that fell for the bullshit reasons to invade Iraq is likely to fail this test. BSdetect May 2019 #15
This is john bolton's wet dream. spanone May 2019 #17
Absolutely malaise May 2019 #18
He ain't dead, and neither is his daughter ProudLib72 May 2019 #31
K&R superpatriotman May 2019 #19
Recommended. H2O Man May 2019 #21
Rebel group in Yemen just took credit for drone attacks on oilfields Baclava May 2019 #22
As someone with Jewish Blood... Xolodno May 2019 #23
I too have Jewish blood malaise May 2019 #25
Me too. Ghost Dog May 2019 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby May 2019 #35
Sure.......as long as you don't count: EX500rider May 2019 #24
Okay atreides1 May 2019 #26
What terrorists groups is the US currently funding? EX500rider May 2019 #28
Uncomfortable truth for some people. marble falls May 2019 #27
Life has many malaise May 2019 #29
If Iran agreed to US domination, it would cease to be a problem for these 3 countries. guillaumeb May 2019 #30
-1 Mosby May 2019 #34

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
16. Bolton is a extreme PNAC war monger
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:27 AM
May 2019

The so-called neo-cons who dominated the Bush presidency have been resuscitated by Trump. Their intent with the urging of Israel is to to goad Iran into a war. Israel only concern is the total destruction of Iran. Firstly, they got Trump to pull out of the Iran Nuclear agreement, Secondly, they placed additional sanctions on Iran and are attempting to force our former, yes former allies, to recognize them. Mean while the fact that Israel secretly devolved an extensive nuclear arsenal while lying to world is totally neglected. The real fear of a nuclear holocaust is that Israel would not hesitate o use them. I am not apologizing for the illegal actions of Iran, but the allies accomplished a significant step in getting Iran to agree to a freeze on their nuclear development. Isn't strange that we can demand that the Iranians can not have lethal nuclear weapons while we turn a blind eye to the fact the Israel has an extensive arsenal.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
3. Given that the treaty with Iran was working fine
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:43 AM
May 2019

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and given that it was Saudi Arabia that attacked the US with the Twin Towers in New York, one would have to ask how we got here.


Just imagine if Iran was terrorizing the US with a war ship off the US coast.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
4. Trump definitely wants to get his tiny hands on the oil. In Venezuela, too.
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:48 AM
May 2019

He could give 2 shits about who's in charge there. He wants another grift to line his pockets.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
8. Problem in Venezuela Trump's Russian buddies are wanting to back Soviet era clients.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:32 AM
May 2019

Cuba needs Venezuela.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. Unfortunately, I could not agree more... and having Bolton* as point man virtually assures bloodshed
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:03 AM
May 2019
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
10. Be careful malaise,
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:46 AM
May 2019

I got a spanking for saying something negative about Israel. It doesn't matter if it is true.

How many countries are going to back a US, Saudi, Israeli alliance in a war with Iran? I saw a photo of the "damaged Saudi empty oil tanker that Iran supposedly attacked. It looked like it bumped into something.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. I totally agree,
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:33 AM
May 2019

can you imagine Trump, the CIC, in a war with Iran?

There is an article on Raw Story now that makes an excellent case for an impeachment hearing. The author argues that an impeachment hearing would hurt Trump's reelection chances.

I wasn't aware of the fact that chief justice Roberts would chair the impeachment conviction hearing in the Senate.
Republicans couldn't orchestrate the hearing.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
14. Trump makes me really nervous
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:20 AM
May 2019

when he starts saber-rattling. He has good reason to start a military conflict, as the many investigations start to close in on him, his administration, and his family. I have no doubt he will use any and every resource available to protect his sorry ass. He is a typical tyrant, though more reactive than many.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
15. Well, a country that fell for the bullshit reasons to invade Iraq is likely to fail this test.
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:26 AM
May 2019

Let's hope the msm does not repeat that mistake of uncritical reporting.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
22. Rebel group in Yemen just took credit for drone attacks on oilfields
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:33 PM
May 2019

Iran Supreme Leader: "There will be no war with U.S."

i think that was the green light to blame Yemen for the whole mess and the Saudis to go bomb them some more

Crisis averted

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
23. As someone with Jewish Blood...
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:16 PM
May 2019

...and whose wife is Persian (and I have my origin from Russia). Essentially an unforgivable sin in the eyes of some, I agree with you.

Israel's worst enemy is itself right now...and just like the three mobs that were fighting for control of Jerusalem before the Romans retook it, don't see the writing on the wall. This next statement will probably get me alerted, the Palestinians are their blood brothers. Contrary to myth, the whole of Israel wasn't forced out. In fact the province of Judah was about a third of the size of the country today. Many Jewish villages outside of that province remained and nor were all the Jewish villages in that province force-ably evicted. Mainly only those that revolted. Over time, many of them converted to Islam for the economic benefits, similar beliefs and persecution from Christians. Then of course, some were forced conversions, Turkey has records from the Ottoman Empire where this happened. Likewise, the Palestinian claim that they are Caananites is BS to, they migrated north where they held a majority, which is present day Lebanon.

The House of Saud see's Iran as it's direct competitor and threat in the region, and haven't gotten over the Shia vs. Sunni fight. They want the swine eating Americans to do their dirty work in subduing Iran. They know from the proxy war in Yemen (who they see as dogs) a direct fight, no matter who wins will leave them weak and ripe for being taking over. Israel sides with them because they are the first to give up on creating another diaspora....and if you ask me, they haven't, just biding their time.

Response to Xolodno (Reply #23)

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
24. Sure.......as long as you don't count:
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:31 PM
May 2019

Iran funding warfare and terrorism and sending weapons up to and including rockets & intermittent range ballistic missiles for some to:

Yemen
Syria
Lebanon
Gaza
Afghanistan

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
28. What terrorists groups is the US currently funding?
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:00 PM
May 2019

I think we are wrapping up our Syrian deal.
Cause Iran has about a dozen they keep going.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
30. If Iran agreed to US domination, it would cease to be a problem for these 3 countries.
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:28 PM
May 2019

But Iran refuses to submit.

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