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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:24 AM May 2019

"I own the Red Hen restaurant that asked Sarah Sanders to leave. Resistance isn't futile."





Stephanie Wilkinson is the co-owner of the Red Hen in Lexington, Va.



‘‘Hello Intolerant, intellectually-challenged, psychotic, socialists!

Your so-called business is in jeopardy. Rest assured this is not a threat but simply a warning that predicts your downfall. .?.?. When your treasonist hypocrite lowlife Obama took our nation into despair (for 8 yrs) we didn’t do or say the things you do. Get over it, before it’s too late! BTW, there are a lot more of us than there are of you.’’

I’ve been getting hate mail for almost a year now, ever since I asked White House press secretary Sarah Sanders to leave my Lexington, Va., restaurant, the Red Hen, last June.

At the time, the country was in turmoil over the Trump administration’s heinous practice of separating children from their parents at our southern border. In our tiny 26-seat restaurant, the horror felt simultaneously immediate and far away.

...


When we opened after a 10-day hiatus, our dining room was full. In the following weeks, people who had never been to the Shenandoah Valley traveled out of their way to eat with us. Hundreds of orders for our Red Hen spice blend poured in. And the love spread far beyond our door, as supporters sent thousands of dollars’ in donations in our honor to our local food pantry, our domestic violence shelter and first responders.

After nearly a year, I’m happy to say that business is still good. Better than good, actually. And besides the boost to our area charities, our town’s hospitality and sales revenue have gone up, too.


...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-own-the-red-hen-restaurant-that-asked-sarah-sanders-to-leave-resistance-isnt-futile/2019/05/14/125b4742-75a8-11e9-b7ae-390de4259661_story.html?utm_term=.41f1351e9cc5

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"I own the Red Hen restaurant that asked Sarah Sanders to leave. Resistance isn't futile." (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 OP
That place is always packed underpants May 2019 #1
Sounds like virtue rewarded, to me. calimary May 2019 #72
If it were local to me, Cirque du So-What May 2019 #2
I bought a $100.00 gift card from them HAB911 May 2019 #3
So nice of you!!!!!!!!! +1000 USALiberal May 2019 #9
No Red Hats in the Red Hen!!! Blue Owl May 2019 #4
Gonna order somma that spice! GusBob May 2019 #5
Does this cover the little old ladies in purple dresses? Hangingon May 2019 #23
If I.lived down there, we would eat there and order from them often. tymorial May 2019 #6
What is the difference between refusing service to any one who votes for the opposition party Cold War Spook May 2019 #7
it's different when the good guys refuse the bad guys. Bonx May 2019 #8
I agree with you. Ron Obvious May 2019 #10
No, it is not, she is evil and a liar. Kick out dems like her too. Nt USALiberal May 2019 #11
She has no place in polite society pandr32 May 2019 #20
What part is silly? the death threats? the arson threats? the ruin your job parts? GusBob May 2019 #14
You are right... Sara needs to talk to her boss SoCalDem May 2019 #54
Thats a fair question GusBob May 2019 #13
IIRC, they did not refuse her service DeminPennswoods May 2019 #38
While I don't like it, a business owner can refuse service to any individual. hughee99 May 2019 #15
Not based on an impermissible category, such as race, gender. etc. spooky3 May 2019 #21
That's why I said "individual". hughee99 May 2019 #53
Read the article. mac56 May 2019 #16
The difference is that political party isn't a federal or VA protected characteristic. nt More_Cowbell May 2019 #17
You would serve to someone who champions putting children in cages? lunatica May 2019 #18
Answer: You have no choice in birth, but you do have a choice to be an asshole and harm others. TheBlackAdder May 2019 #19
Politics is not a protected class. Religion is. GoneOffShore May 2019 #22
Refusing service to people without shoes or shirts is wrong! tenderfoot May 2019 #24
I have often wondered Cold War Spook May 2019 #42
Refusing service to an individual is not "refusing service... LanternWaste May 2019 #25
No Shirt, No Shoes, No Sarah. oasis May 2019 #27
the damage sanders and the entire trump cabal barbtries May 2019 #30
To me, the difference is that Sanders was refused service because of her conduct, her actions. CaptainTruth May 2019 #31
My gay brother LOVES Chick-fil-a Jake Stern May 2019 #33
I'm with your mother. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong May 2019 #70
Thanks for you "concern" Tarc May 2019 #40
Easy - the difference is behavior. Scoopster May 2019 #41
Sarah Sanders spews propoganda for this despicable administration. John Fante May 2019 #46
She wasn't kicked out for her political beliefs... AdamGG May 2019 #47
I agree with you, too. LisaM May 2019 #59
It isn't like she was a rando with a blog JonLP24 May 2019 #67
She was targeted, that is asked to leave, because of who PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #60
Intolerance klook May 2019 #62
A different color? BlueWI May 2019 #66
This is not "the opposition party". mwb970 May 2019 #71
"After nearly a year, I'm happy to say that business is still good. Better than good, actually." Botany May 2019 #12
K&R stonecutter357 May 2019 #26
irony, irony much johannsyah May 2019 #28
They do not out-number us... Wounded Bear May 2019 #29
And that 16 million voters were purged prior to the 2016 election too. Botany May 2019 #34
K&R... spanone May 2019 #32
For Red Hen Owner, Not Serving Huckabee Sanders Eventually Helped Business Gothmog May 2019 #35
She's brave hey? GusBob May 2019 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author SoCalDem May 2019 #56
She did what she Cha May 2019 #69
k&r DesertRat May 2019 #37
As it turns out, there are more of us than there DeminPennswoods May 2019 #39
"Treasonist, hypocrite, low-life Obama" - hmmmmmm, I NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #43
You are bad as the Republicans Cold War Spook May 2019 #44
Sarah Sanders appreciates your support. John Fante May 2019 #48
Bet ya a buck he's back in a week GusBob May 2019 #51
It seems as if you got it all backwards Cold War Spook GusBob May 2019 #50
Honey are you lost? SoCalDem May 2019 #57
Damn, how did you hook up that link to the photograph? Brother Buzz May 2019 #58
easy peasy SoCalDem May 2019 #64
Cool beans! Brother Buzz May 2019 #65
Obama took our nation into despair (for 8 yrs) hibbing May 2019 #45
Obama took the country from the depths of the Great Recession John Fante May 2019 #49
I would have taken her money and give it to a progressive cause. RandySF May 2019 #52
Good for them! smirkymonkey May 2019 #55
Let that be a lesson to Nancy and the top Democrats. ie...Impeachment LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #61
It's on my list of must visit restaurants if and when we ever get near there Hulk May 2019 #63
K&R JonLP24 May 2019 #68

calimary

(81,264 posts)
72. Sounds like virtue rewarded, to me.
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:03 PM
May 2019

If I were a local, I’d be happy to eat there.

Vote with your voice/Vote with your pocketbook.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
6. If I.lived down there, we would eat there and order from them often.
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:56 AM
May 2019

We are all in this together and we must stand up to tyranny.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
7. What is the difference between refusing service to any one who votes for the opposition party
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:01 PM
May 2019

and refusing service to any one of a different color? DUers don't have to eat at a Chick-Fil-A but I have never heard of a gay couple being refused service. I do not believe that a business that is doing business with the public has a right to refuse service based on religion, color, gender or politics. I put in politics because it is like religion, a choice.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
14. What part is silly? the death threats? the arson threats? the ruin your job parts?
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:19 PM
May 2019

that sounds serious to me

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
54. You are right... Sara needs to talk to her boss
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:47 PM
May 2019

and get him to stop enabling MAGAs to perpetrate their vile deeds.. He ruins people's jobs with every vile tweet..and Dems are not the ones burning churches ..

She should be cooking her own meals anyway Isn't that one of her wifely duties

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
13. Thats a fair question
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:18 PM
May 2019

I think the distinction here is that you are not refusing service to all of the group, just their most visible face. (whom just happened to be defending putting kids in cages at the time, perhaps your other customers would not like that spoiling their meals.)

The other thing is: refusing service could cost you your business or your safety, but that did not happen.

The point of the editorial is that her business is fine, so no harm no foul. Sarah went somewhere else to eat

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
38. IIRC, they did not refuse her service
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:29 PM
May 2019

The staff went to the owner and said they were not comfortable serving SHS and her family. The owner politely asked them to leave and the Sanders' did. I suppose if they'd said they intended to stay, they would have been served.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
15. While I don't like it, a business owner can refuse service to any individual.
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:21 PM
May 2019

I think the owner of the Red Hen was wrong to follow her party to the NEXT restaurant they went to after leaving as requested.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
53. That's why I said "individual".
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:27 PM
May 2019

This owner kicked Sanders out, but no one is going to argue that it’s because Sanders is a woman.

mac56

(17,567 posts)
16. Read the article.
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:22 PM
May 2019

"Any one who votes for the opposition party" wasn't being refused service. It's a false equivalence.

An individual was refused service, because her work in the Trump administration negatively impacted her employees. She was NOT turned away for being a member of a marginalized community.

No laws protect people who make their living by apologizing for the authoritarian tendencies of former reality TV stars who now hold high office. Unlike her targets, Sarah can simply walk away. She is not required to be a spokesperson for authoritarianism. If she quit tomorrow, she could walk into a cushy job elsewhere.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. You would serve to someone who champions putting children in cages?
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:29 PM
May 2019

Asking Sarah Sanders to leave was about that. Not about all the other inane stuff you listed.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
22. Politics is not a protected class. Religion is.
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:33 PM
May 2019

So, please, stop.
It's like refusing service if someone walked in wearing swastika's or Klan robes.
'No shirt, no shoes, no service'.
'Klan robes? MAGA hats? Swastika's? No service.'

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. Refusing service to an individual is not "refusing service...
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:47 PM
May 2019

Refusing service to an individual predicated wholly on her own personality and actions is not "refusing service to any one who votes for the opposition party.

That's the relevant and critical difference.

But you won't allow yourself either the nuance or the context to perceive that.

And what your belief is in regards to lawful vs unlawful discrimination is irrelevant to both the law and to the restaurant owner's actions.

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
30. the damage sanders and the entire trump cabal
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:06 PM
May 2019

goes so much deeper than voting for the other side!

locking up babies
separating families
transgender ban
owned by putin
tax scam
tariff boondoggle
fake emergency
propaganda and constant lying to the american people
ignoring climate change
propagating worse climate change
usurping public lands for private gains
worst cabinet in my lifetime at least
destroying relationships with allies

now they're using the justice department to go after trump's political enemies.

they're destroying democracy. come on.

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
31. To me, the difference is that Sanders was refused service because of her conduct, her actions.
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:07 PM
May 2019

Lying to the American people is a behavioral choice, it's different than characteristics you're born with (like skin color) or matters of faith (like religion).

I would say Sanders was refused service because of her objectionable behavior, not because of her political party, religion, or skin color.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
33. My gay brother LOVES Chick-fil-a
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:09 PM
May 2019

On the other hand our mom is so serious about her boycott of them that she made me leave my soda outside on the porch because it was in a C-F-A cup. I think it's ridiculous personally but I don't question her sincerity.

To each their own. . . .









Scoopster

(423 posts)
41. Easy - the difference is behavior.
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:09 PM
May 2019

Skin color isn't a behavior. Being a fascist douchebag who offends people on a daily basis is.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
46. Sarah Sanders spews propoganda for this despicable administration.
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:25 PM
May 2019

She does far more than "vote for the opposition party".

AdamGG

(1,291 posts)
47. She wasn't kicked out for her political beliefs...
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:29 PM
May 2019

She was kicked out for the criminal actions that she is actively involved in propagandizing. Should Joseph McCarthy have been refused service when he was at the height of his bullshit?

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
59. I agree with you, too.
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:08 PM
May 2019

This whole thing made me really uncomfortable. If you don't like when someone won't serve or cater to liberals, then you can't think it's okay when someone won't serve conservatives. I don't like Sarah Huckabee Sanders either, but she has a right to go out in public with her family. As does the gay, mixed-race family who lives next door.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
67. It isn't like she was a rando with a blog
Wed May 15, 2019, 12:46 AM
May 2019

I think it had more to do with child seperation policy than whether she was a liberal or a conservative.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,856 posts)
60. She was targeted, that is asked to leave, because of who
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:38 PM
May 2019

specifically she is. She wasn't profiled as a member of a group. There is a very large difference.

klook

(12,155 posts)
62. Intolerance
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:05 PM
May 2019

of assholery makes the world a better place.

I’ll look forward to dining at the Red Hen when I visit the area.

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
66. A different color?
Wed May 15, 2019, 12:08 AM
May 2019

Are we still in the 19th century?

And here is one easy difference to get: one of these is illegal, violating civil rights law, and one is not.

Need any hints for which is which?

mwb970

(11,359 posts)
71. This is not "the opposition party".
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:56 AM
May 2019

These are destroyers of America. They deserve nothing from normal Americans. NOTHING.

johannsyah

(58 posts)
28. irony, irony much
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:54 PM
May 2019

right wingers discriminate against minorities :
"it's religious freedom"

left wingers do it so against right wingers:
"you intolerant socialist!"

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
36. She's brave hey?
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:25 PM
May 2019

After all the threats to bring this back up, put her name and business out on the line

I don't know if I would risk it a second time around, to flaunt the empty threats from last time

Response to GusBob (Reply #36)

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
39. As it turns out, there are more of us than there
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:32 PM
May 2019

are of them (the cretins who keep sending hate mail to the Red Hen owner).

NoMoreRepugs

(9,423 posts)
43. "Treasonist, hypocrite, low-life Obama" - hmmmmmm, I
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:16 PM
May 2019

think we have some insight here into the inner workings of the Deplorable mind. They believe what Rushbo and Hannity spew and don't care to live in the real world. Sorry, but anyone who thinks there's any reason whatsoever to give a shit about these people and try to find some middle ground going forward is living in a fantasy world not dissimilar to the Deplorables.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
44. You are bad as the Republicans
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:21 PM
May 2019

Too much hate. I am 75 and don't need this. I grew up in a different time. Bye Bye. Write whatever you want, I am deleting now. I hope this isn't banned before it is read.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
50. It seems as if you got it all backwards Cold War Spook
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:57 PM
May 2019

You seem to be the hateful one here. And your posts have not been well thought out

In this context, the restaurant owner and SHS came to a mutual agreement, politely and without rancor. No violence, no confrontation.

Yet the restaurant owner received threats of violence and hate from republicans. And messages of hope and support from Democrats

AND YOU are some claiming we are AS BAD as them. Really? Sheer fucking ignorance

Good bye

Brother Buzz

(36,429 posts)
65. Cool beans!
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:02 PM
May 2019

I remember doing that years ago, but only for text. It's cool to see it works with a jpg.


hibbing

(10,098 posts)
45. Obama took our nation into despair (for 8 yrs)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:23 PM
May 2019

So blinded by their hatred and racism they can actually say that with a straight face. It is quite sad.


Peace

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
49. Obama took the country from the depths of the Great Recession
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:33 PM
May 2019

to full fucking employment, something St. Ronnie never achieved.

He's the best president since FDR at least.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
61. Let that be a lesson to Nancy and the top Democrats. ie...Impeachment
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:04 PM
May 2019

Its a good analogy.
Sure you will get a lot of hate mail. A surge of threats. Even perhaps some actual dangerous attempts at harm at first. Fox News will be screaming louder than usual.

But the longer time goes on if they go ahead, and begin the process to kick Trump out of the restaurant (impeach the bastard) , the more the public becomes aware through access of information that an impeachment hearing would garner, will eventually restore the truth, dignity, and "success" of the White House.

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