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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:10 PM May 2019

Trump's lawyers tell judge Congress investigating him is an "invalid attempt at law enforcement."

Brad Heath
@bradheath

President Trump's lawyers told a judge today that Congress didn't have the power to investigate him for corruption, and suggested that both the Whitewater and Watergate investigations were invalid attempts at "law enforcement." (link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/14/president-trump-fight-congressional-subpoena-financial-records-mazars-court-hearing/1187746001/) usatoday.com/story/news/pol…




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Trump's lawyers tell judge Congress investigating him is an "invalid attempt at law enforcement." (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2019 OP
It's simple.... Zoonart May 2019 #1
They are trying the "if the pResident does it, it's legal" argument Maeve May 2019 #2
"Consovoy's position is ridiculous." mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 #3
Contrary to the constitution. Oversight belongs to congress. this is bullshit. spanone May 2019 #4
Bullshit on steroids malaise May 2019 #8
Have they (the Trump admin) no decency?? gohuskies May 2019 #5
Decency, tRUMP? SammyWinstonJack May 2019 #9
If that's true, our democracy is over. Without oversight a president is a king. spanone May 2019 #6
Wonder how long duforsure May 2019 #7
So IOW, it was/wasn't okay then so it's not okay now? But it was okay then. 🤔 sprinkleeninow May 2019 #10
So, laws no longer matter if they can't be enforced. I predict we sinkingfeeling May 2019 #11
Grrrrrr. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #12
The stench from these bereft apologists ........ bleach! bleech! barf! n/t MFGsunny May 2019 #13
So ridiculous that I hadn't realised they were saying this to a judge muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #14
Consovoy is a former Clarence Thomas law clerk onenote May 2019 #15
Yes, you do. OilemFirchen May 2019 #18
I can hardly wait 2naSalit May 2019 #16
Says someone who has no idea of what oversight is MiniMe May 2019 #17
Rule 11. Mike Niendorff May 2019 #19

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
2. They are trying the "if the pResident does it, it's legal" argument
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:22 PM
May 2019

Ain't gonna fly and they should know better.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,370 posts)
3. "Consovoy's position is ridiculous."
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:24 PM
May 2019
Consovoy's position is ridiculous. Adopting his view of "legislative purpose" would simply gut the constitution's checks and balances.



MEHTA: "Say for example if a president had a financial interest in a particular piece of legislation that was being considered … in your view Congress could not investigate whether a president has a conflict of interest?

CONSOVOY: "It would lack legitimate legislative purpose."



Trump lawyer CONSOVOY says he wants "a week or two" to ask whether Rep. @Jim_Jordan might voluntarily turn over Oversight Committee documents to the Trump legal team that might support the argument that the investigation of Trump's finances lacks a legislative purpose.


gohuskies

(1,155 posts)
5. Have they (the Trump admin) no decency??
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:34 PM
May 2019

Obstruct, obfuscate and attack. That is the real Art of the Deal..

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
10. So IOW, it was/wasn't okay then so it's not okay now? But it was okay then. 🤔
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:17 PM
May 2019

They have expertise in TWIST YOU UP.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
11. So, laws no longer matter if they can't be enforced. I predict we
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:20 PM
May 2019

will see an increase in lawlessness from the RW.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
14. So ridiculous that I hadn't realised they were saying this to a judge
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:08 PM
May 2019

I started speed-reading an article on this, and had just settled into the idea that they were on TV, having a press conference or something. Then it kept saying 'judge'. What? This is their argument in court???

Legislators need to know how well existing laws are enforced to be able to legislate.

In 1927, the Court found that, in investigating the administration of the Department of Justice, Congress was considering a subject “on which legislation could be had or would be materially aided by the information which the investigation was calculated to elicit”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_oversight#U.S._Constitution

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
16. I can hardly wait
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:11 PM
May 2019

to hear Rachel Maddow read this aloud... she was giving a headzup about it last night relating that they had asked to cancel the hearing! They really are trying to redefine words such that they show how the president is king and Congress is insignificant, really.

They sure don't like that pesky coequal government thing at all.

Mike Niendorff

(3,459 posts)
19. Rule 11.
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:28 AM
May 2019

If I were the judge in this case, these attorneys would immediately be facing sanction under Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

Not even slightly kidding on this.


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