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Tue May 14, 2019, 09:37 PM

To let the Alabama Tourism Department know how you feel about the state's CRIMINALIZATION

of ALL abortions with prison terms of 99 years, call 800-ALABAMA. Tell them you will not visit, travel through or spend a dime in their backward misogynistic state.

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Reply To let the Alabama Tourism Department know how you feel about the state's CRIMINALIZATION (Original post)
Atticus May 2019 OP
UniteFightBack May 2019 #1
backtoblue May 2019 #12
WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #2
Initech May 2019 #3
Heartstrings May 2019 #4
dem4decades May 2019 #5
KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #18
SharonClark May 2019 #22
csziggy May 2019 #26
Mike Niendorff May 2019 #6
Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #10
kag May 2019 #17
lordsummerisle May 2019 #7
ancianita May 2019 #8
Tech May 2019 #9
Aristus May 2019 #11
Grown2Hate May 2019 #14
ancianita May 2019 #15
pm_me_grey_paint May 2019 #20
Grown2Hate May 2019 #13
pm_me_grey_paint May 2019 #21
Tanuki May 2019 #24
Tanuki May 2019 #25
ancianita May 2019 #16
certainot May 2019 #19
MineralMan May 2019 #23
stopbush May 2019 #27

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 09:38 PM

1. Yeah I don't appreciate them bringing sharia law to America. nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #1)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:37 PM

12. +100000

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 09:42 PM

2. Better yet, throw some money at the Yellowhammer Fund, which helps fund the removal of barriers to

people accessing abortion care in the state of Alabama.

https://yellowhammerfund.org/

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 09:45 PM

3. Can I just copy a picture of my middle finger and mail it to them?

🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 09:46 PM

4. Let's change the state's name to "Talibama"! nt

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 09:49 PM

5. How about Doctors , why would they stay in that state?

Except for ther religious jerks of course.

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #5)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:07 AM

18. Not to worry.

Faith healers are all around in great abundance......

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #5)

Wed May 15, 2019, 08:25 AM

22. Do you think most doctors care about abortion rights?

I don't.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #22)

Wed May 15, 2019, 10:34 AM

26. Most doctors these days are no longer trained for all types of abortion

The other abortion ban
I wanted to provide abortions for my patients. My med school wouldn’t teach me how.

By Stephanie Ho
January 4, 2019

FAYETTEVILLE, ARK.

Last year brought one of the toughest moments I’d ever faced as a family doctor. A woman had shown up for her appointment after a three-hour drive to one of our clinics in Arkansas, and we had to turn her away. A state restriction had gone into effect, requiring that abortion providers contract with a physician who has hospital-admitting privileges. It works by weaponizing antiabortion attitudes within the medical community.
Outlook • Perspective
Stephanie Ho is the director of primary care for Planned Parenthood Great Plains.
Illustration by Marina Muun for The Washington Post

My staff and I had been attempting to comply with the law since it was passed in 2015. We reached out to every OB/GYN we could find. Receptionists would hang up on us or refuse to take a message. The doctors who did answer said that while they might personally support a woman’s right to choose, their colleagues did not. One told me that for him to sign on as a backup, he’d need permission not only from his hospital administrator but also from the Diocese of Little Rock — “and after that,” he added, “the pope.” We finally found a willing obstetrician in November.

This fear doesn’t surprise me. Medication abortion is one of the safest procedures out there; it’s less risky than wisdom-tooth extraction (which requires anesthesia). But doctors and nurses in Arkansas are so afraid of abortions — and the attendant politics — that it’s almost impossible to learn about them as a medical student, let alone administer them. Where I grew up, in the River Valley of western Arkansas, nobody said the word “abortion” out loud. When I went to medical school at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences (UAMS) in Little Rock, that censorious silence didn’t relent. Over four years, the most exposure we got to the topic was a half-hour guest lecture. (At that time, 17 percent of medical schools offered no formal abortion education, according to a national survey published by the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology.)

That implicit disapproval carried over to my residency in family medicine, which I began in 2008 at UAMS West in Fort Smith. Second-year residents gave presentations on a topic of their choice — and mine, on abortion, was the most highly attended and contentious that year. A senior faculty member vocally disagreed with my description of abortion as a common medical service, interrupting every few sentences and quoting the Bible at me. Someone dubbed me the “abortion chick,” and the nickname stuck. Whenever a patient at the clinic wanted to learn more about terminating a pregnancy, the staff would call me in to talk her through her options, even when I wasn’t scheduled on a shift. My fellow physicians didn’t feel comfortable sharing information about abortions.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2019/01/04/feature/i-wanted-to-provide-abortions-for-my-patients-my-med-school-wouldnt-teach-me-how/?utm_term=.df2d2eb92abc

The Scarcity of Abortion Training in America's Medical Schools

Many students who want instruction aren't able to find it. And those who get it, like me, often aren't willing to move to the areas of greatest need.

Mara Gordon
Jun 9, 2015

Last spring, I attended a conference for pro-choice medical students outside of St. Louis, and there I met the doctor who helped fill the void left by George Tiller. (I attended on a scholarship from Medical Students for Choice, which sponsored the conference. The organization also funds a reproductive-health externship, which I enrolled in earlier this year.*)

<SNIP>

When I started medical school at the University of Pennsylvania, the culture war surrounding abortion still seemed abstract and far away. I grew up attending pro-choice rallies with my physician mom in Washington, D.C., and all my parents’ doctor friends supported abortion rights.

My medical education seemed to confirm my false sense that everyone working in healthcare felt the way I did about abortion access: Abortion was discussed in class as openly as blood pressure and diabetes, and spending a day in family-planning clinic was an opt-out, not opt-in, part of our clinical education. Many of my professors who work in family medicine routinely perform abortions for their patients, so when I started to think more seriously about a career in primary care, I assumed that making abortion part of my practice would be an easy decision.

<SNIP>

Meeting these medical students made my own experience suddenly come into focus: They had to fight to learn about abortion, while my own educational opportunities in reproductive health had simply fallen into my lap. The stigma attached to abortion providers doesn’t just come from clinic protestors or grotesque billboards. It can come from within our own profession, too. It can be overt—like the heartbreaking story of that student’s father’s early death—but it can also be more subtle, like a medical curriculum that doesn’t cover abortion care.

More: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/06/learning-abortion-in-medical-school/395075/

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:07 PM

6. Enough.


How about we just kick Alabama out of the union, and add Puerto Rico as the new 50th state?

I'm not seeing a downside.


MDN

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Response to Mike Niendorff (Reply #6)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:34 PM

10. I LIKE the way you think !

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Response to Mike Niendorff (Reply #6)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:02 AM

17. Great idea.

No downside that I can see either.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:08 PM

7. White male rule

they have a need to exert control on some segment of the population. Since they can't do it with African-Americans anymore, they're doing it with women, and often now with their consent...

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

8. We might as well call the tourism bureaus of Georgia, Ohio, Kentucky, Mississippi, too.

And then warn ten more states to NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

Florida,
Louisiana,
South Carolina,
Illinois,
Maryland,
Minnesota,
New York,
West Virginia,
Missouri
Tennessee.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:22 PM

9. Governor Kay Ivey (334)242-7100

She does the final ok on the bill.
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:35 PM

11. I didn't know that Alabama HAD a tourism bureau.

You mean, people go to Alabama voluntarily? And spend money there?

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Response to Aristus (Reply #11)

Tue May 14, 2019, 11:02 PM

14. Should have looked up before I responded (great minds, etc.). I'm seriously asking, too.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #11)

Tue May 14, 2019, 11:17 PM

15. I traveled through AL to FL after Irma. Beautiful. But Montgomery's statehouse felt dark.

Reminds me of the Tallahassee statehouse that I lived near for six years.

Alabama has 2,499,410 females and 2,349,967 males. There are 149,443 more women. Wonder if they vote.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #11)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:39 AM

20. Yes people really do.

...surprisingly yes people vacation in Alabama.

On average 6.3 million visitors vacation at the Baldwin County beaches every year.

I would suggest adding both the Gulf Shores (800-745-7263) and Orange Beach visitor bureaus (800-982-8562) to the list. A lot of money ends up in Montgomery via those two cities.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 11:01 PM

13. I mean, I don't EVER look to trash an entire state (since we still have THOUSANDS of allies there,

no matter how outnumbered), but does Alabama have a Department of Tourism? I can't remember intentionally travelling there. SERIOUSLY asking what the draw might be.

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Response to Grown2Hate (Reply #13)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:45 AM

21. The beaches

The beaches. The locals keep them obsessively clean to the point they banned drinking and smoking on them (yes a smoking ban in the South, shocking I know).


Hypothetical thoughts:

If a college age woman gets raped at one of the beach condos while on spring break, does this law mean she becomes property of the state of Alabama since hospitals won't be able to give emergency contraceptives?

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Response to Grown2Hate (Reply #13)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:51 AM

24. Gulf Shores/Orange Beach area

https://www.gulfshores.com

You can tell them why you won't go there now.

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Response to Grown2Hate (Reply #13)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:54 AM

25. The U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville is also a popular tourist attraction.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

16. This isn't about criminalization. This is about democracy. From my related thread...

The anti-democratic side believes women have no prior constitutional rights of life, liberty, etc., etc., god-given free will or bodily autonomy the instant they have sex -- in war or peace, sharia theocracy or secular democracy.

I've heard one allegedly liberal man (I thought he was my friend) call a grown woman a jizz bucket. Other men call them not much better than bothersome incubators.

The democratic side thinks women are actual humans.

When men war to control women through the law, men hate
American law,
human equality,
god-given free will,
bodily autonomy and
freedom.

Freedom and equality are the constitutional law of the land.
Free will is god-given.
Bodily autonomy is not dictated by king or man, but constitutional law and science.

This is a nation of laws, not of men.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

19. americans need offense vs trump/putin - here are 2 ways to punish GA GOP and GOP in general

3 universities in GA that helped do this can be protested.

from republiconradio.org - GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2

those schools broadcast sports on 14 limbaugh stations. they give them cred and help them attract advertisers. all those stations follow the limbaugh lead. the local blowhards on those stations have to be pro republican and anti choice or they lose their jobs.


if GA anti choice cons paid $1000/hr to support and elect republicans those stations would be worth $1,050,000/WEEK FREE to them (1000x15hrs/dayx5 =$75,000/ station)

and think about what difference that made in the stacey abrams 'defeat' - how many points was that worth? in florida there are about 20 limbaugh stations that depend on florida universities like that - working againsnt gillum.. and in the next election?

students at those universities can protest right on campus - those schools have no excuse to keep supporting trump, global warming denial, and anti-choice motherfuckers. local GOP will freak out. all their pols know the importance of being able to ride limbaugh's/talk radio's trail of lies as well as RWTRs invisibility to the left.

anyone anywhere can record programs and podcasts on those stations and can use artificial intelligence-enhanced transcription such as at sonix.ai for $5/hr, and list advertisers with contact info with very little listening required. the companies that are helping republicans with this shit can be associated directly with the crap they sponsor.

when the ad industry realizes they're going to have to stop bundling advertisers onto those huge stations and start asking them all if they actually want to support anti-choice, trump, global warming denial they'll have to start applying actual market demand and it will kill the 20-1 monopoly. the ad industry will kill trump putin talk radio to be able to get their clients onto those huge radio stations without getting trashed. it's stoprush x 100.

from republiconradio.org

Artificial intelligence now makes it very easy to list talk radio advertisers
1) Record
Quicktime, on every Mac, is a basic app for recording audio streams. While playing the stream turn on Quicktime, go to 'File' and 'New Audio Recording'. Turn on the recorder and when you're done save it. With Quicktime it is necessary to have volume on. Other recording apps will allow recording multiple streams at the same time, pre scheduling, and editing.
2) Transcribe
At $5/hr and under, Sonix.ai may be the cheapest, quickest, and easiest transcription service. An hour takes minutes and is very accurate. When it's done they send an email with a link to the transcription in their editing program where it can be downloaded or tweaked and corrected on their site as you listen. It can also be stored there. The monthly subscription is $15 but they offer a 30 minutes free trial.
3) Search for "DOT" to identify advertisers
Live recordings of radio streams include advertisements and most announce web sites transcribed as "so-and-so-company dot com". Most advertisers can be found by searching for the word "dot". Sometimes the ads provided phone numbers. The Sonix text editor allows you to highlight and add notes. Each company or quote can get a note that is listed and numbered. The notes can then be copied and pasted elsewhere.
4) Contact
Most websites provide phone numbers and email addresses specifically for contact by potential customers. Complaint emails may get further up the chain of command than a phone call, and there's a lasting written record for employees to pass around. It may also be easier for sympathetic staff to pass on a comment to a boss in email form than personally.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 09:27 AM

23. I have not been in Alabama since 1965.

That year, I drove there from California to hear Dr. King speak. What I saw there made it clear to me that that state was a place I would never return to, and I haven't. Mississippi is another state I will never return to.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 11:20 AM

27. The top five reasons they're banning abortion in Alabama:

1. They are fundamentalist Christians

2. They are fundamentalist Christians

3. They are fundamentalist Christians

4. They are Rs

5. They are white males
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