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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf the gop stacks the courts, why stop at Roe? Are they going to overturn Abolition of Slavery?
The American Taliban is forcing their Sharia Law on the entire country.
But it's Unconstitutional, you say? Not if enough dishonest or bought and sold Christian taliban judges say it isn't.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)a deceitful bunch and dangerous as hell to the survival of a democracy. And tRump is a nutcase. Creating chaos and destruction is a fun time for him. He gets off on it. Far too many IMO still don't/can't comprehend what a narcissistic sociopath is.
LonePirate
(13,414 posts)ETStevens
(77 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)or forced childbearing.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)Nobody saw this trick.
The slave owners of today just dont have to feed and house and cloth their workers. They just have to pay them a less than a livable wage so that they do that for themselves and they come back to work for them day after day after day.....
How we can pay people less than a livable wage and call it anything but a modern take on slavery is beyond me. Gone are the physical whips and chains but if you look closely it is all still there.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)a lot higher bar than overturning a SCOTUS decision.
CanonRay
(14,097 posts)followed by Brown v Board of Education. Birth control and equal access to school.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)The abortion bans are about forcing women to have children so they must remain out of the work force. Most studies show that one of the major disparities for women's pay over the long-term is because women take time out to care for children.
I'm vastly oversimplifying the facts here but what happens is, women who take time out of their jobs to have and raise kids lose valuable experience/time on important, high-visibility projects, etc. that the men get in their place. The men get the experience and the face-time and the accolades because they are able to stay in the office and work.
The idea the GOP has is to force child-bearing and child-raising upon women (child-raising because day-care is often more expensive than what the woman can earn so they stay home). Between these two things it takes women out of the workforce. They become economically dependent upon men. That's whole idea make women subordinate to the master of the house.
Wounded Bear
(58,634 posts)"Slavery" won't be returned, but don't be surprised if challenges to things like minimum wage and family leave laws are brought. They've effectively diminished the unions, so most of our advances in the job market will be under attack.
It's libertarian heaven, getting judges who are strict 'constructionists' that want to overturn all progressive actions since 1932, if not 1898.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)Since it was not done by SCOTUS ruling but by Amendment. Prior to that it would have been impossible for SCOTUS to rule slavery unconstitutional. An Amendment is an integral part of the Constitution so abolition cannot be found unconstitutional.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)All it takes is a SC ruling that says the 13th amendment has exceptions.
They could rule that "common sense exceptions" are applicable. They could rule that people could "voluntarily" choose to become slaves for some payment (significant or otherwise).
It's important to remember that the constitution ONLY says what the Supreme Court says it says.
Having said that. I think all this is silly talk. As much as I dislike Trump, I really don't think he's trying to restore slavery, but it does make for good rhetoric.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)Because that's what this is all leading up to. All the gerrymandering and electoral fraud and all the other crap they're doing to steal elections, and then using their majorities to change laws and pack courts in order to uphold all of it is just a prelude to what they REALLY want: a law declaring the Republican Party the winners of EVERY election from here to eternity. My only question is why they just don't do it. With all the other half-measures they've been using for years, you know that's what they WANT. Now that they control everything, why don't they just ram that through too? Be like every other fascist regime and declare the opposition Party illegal.
Say what you will about how you think even THEIR voters would reject that as being un-American, but I know for a 100% solid gold FACT that they could propose a bill requiring all their voters to eat dogshit and call it pancakes, and the vast, vast, VAST majority of their voters would happily break out the syrup.
deminks
(11,014 posts)Remember W thought it was just a g..d....d piece of paper. He woulda if he coulda. Donnie will 'cause it makes him look manly to Pootey,
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)maxsolomon
(33,284 posts)gun regulations was the 1st. laws across the nation have been challenged and overturned by concealed & open carry advocates.
where has gun freedom got us?
where will fetus freedom get us?
spanone
(135,816 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But your point is well-taken. There are plenty of things that COULD be overturned, like Brown v. Board of Education (which several of Trump's judicial nominees refuse to say was correctly decided ...), Loving v. Virginia (interracial marriage), U.S. v. Windsor (gay marriage), Shelley v. Kramer (restrictive covenants in housing), Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections (poll taxes), etc.
UTUSN
(70,674 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)That kind of statement won't help us any more than the GOP saying that if we allow gay marriage, then that opens to door to allowing pedophilia and marriage to animals.
onenote
(42,685 posts)ecstatic
(32,679 posts)...
From 2010 to 2015(40) and again in 2016(41) and 2018(42), some prisoners in the US refused to work, protesting for better pay, better conditions and for the end of forced labor. Strike leaders have been punished with indefinite solitary confinement.(43)(44) Forced prison labour occurs in both public and private prisons. The prison labour industry makes over $1 billion per year selling products that inmates make, while inmates are paid very little or nothing in return.(45) In California, 2,500 incarcerated workers fight wildfires for $1 an hour, saving the state as much as $100 million a year. (46)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labour
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)They have already proven themselves capable of ANYTHING. If this country is ever going to get on the right track again, we're going to have to have some kind of truth and reconciliation program so these fuckers are forced to confess. Oh right. That will never fucking happen.
lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)they've burned all heathens at the stake.