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Grasswire2

(13,564 posts)
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:25 PM May 2019

If you believe (as MSNBC tells us many Dems now do believe) that Trump will win 2020...

...then you MUST SEEK IMPEACHMENT IMMEDIATELY.

Nicole and the talking heads agreed that more and more Dems in Washington are seeing Trump inevitable re-election.

If that is your belief (as an elected Dem or an opinion leader either in the press or some other position) then refusal or hesitation regarding impeachment is...

CAPITULATION to Trump and lawlessness.

Farewell to America as an ideal; as the hope of the world's people.

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If you believe (as MSNBC tells us many Dems now do believe) that Trump will win 2020... (Original Post) Grasswire2 May 2019 OP
but do they know what is.... stillcool May 2019 #1
"Nicole and the talking heads..." saidsimplesimon May 2019 #2
It Didn't Seem To Me Me. May 2019 #3
I'm not getting that vibe at all. John Fante May 2019 #4
Corporate News at it's finest. Wellstone ruled May 2019 #5
Can you name the 20 Republican Senators Locutusofborg May 2019 #6
Bullshit. . . Iliyah May 2019 #7
Well, you see things like this below 👇🏻 LenaBaby61 May 2019 #8
The big blue wave you speak of is hot and furious for the CHECK they demand... Grasswire2 May 2019 #12
2020 will ***NOT*** be more free and fair than 2016 ... NOT AT ALL !!! uponit7771 May 2019 #9
If anything, it will be less so. n/t Different Drummer May 2019 #11
I say that is bullshit. LiberalFighter May 2019 #10
My brother doesn't really pay much attention, but he ecstatic May 2019 #13
I think there are too many people running as well Buckeyeblue May 2019 #14

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
2. "Nicole and the talking heads..."
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:38 PM
May 2019

It's an entertainment show, cable networks are ratings seekers. The only way rumpie wins, is if Democrats stay home. We outnumber the Red team.

"the beatings will continue until morale improves"

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. It Didn't Seem To Me
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:39 PM
May 2019

that they were talking his re-election as inevitable...what they were talking was fear, they're afraid and don't know if anyone can stop him. I detest the hopeless talk about the situation and how the Dems are diminished as weak on defense. How about support and hopeful talk so someone wants to get off the sofa and vote.

And Capitulation talk at this point does evenmore harm. Our Dems are aware of the problems facing them. It's not like they don't know yet so many act as if they don't have a clue that the country is in big trouble. I give them credit for doing their best to save this country against incredible odds and all the sky is falling talk is counterproductive and does nothing but depress and discourage people.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Corporate News at it's finest.
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:39 PM
May 2019

Just a matter of time before Comcast News went this route. All about creating a False Narrative rather than getting their lazy asses out in the field and dig for the real stories and not some polished Stand Up Newsy event.

Locutusofborg

(524 posts)
6. Can you name the 20 Republican Senators
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:40 PM
May 2019

Who would vote Chump guilty in an impeachment trial and make Mike Pence the new president?

Its one thing to listen to the opinions of cable television news pundits; its quite another to take their opinions as gospel.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. Bullshit. . .
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:40 PM
May 2019

Also, why are they (media) pushing for impeachment?

And no, shithole will have to fight hard for re-election and the rate he and the Republicans are going, it' going to be a very hard fight even tho the cheating, stealing and suppression never ended.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
8. Well, you see things like this below 👇🏻
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:45 PM
May 2019
Rep. Jerry Nadler: We’re ‘probably’ not headed for impeachment, but Trump is making it ‘increasingly difficult’ to avoid.

KEY POINTS

Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., sat down with CNBC’s John Harwood to discuss the challenges he and his fellow House Democrats face in their oversight of President Trump and his administration.
Nadler first took on the future president as a New York assemblyman in the 1980s when he joined the resistance to a massive Trump development project on Manhattan’s Upper West Side.
Trump won that battle, though his development got downsized. In today’s confrontation over potential impeachment, the entire country holds a stake.
After a quarter-century in Congress, Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York stands on the brink of an outsize role in American political life.

As Judiciary Committee chairman in the Democratic-controlled House, Nadler leads his party’s efforts to exercise oversight of President Donald Trump and his administration. If Democrats pursue the fourth serious presidential impeachment effort in American history, Nadler would wield the gavel when it starts.


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/15/jerry-nadler-probably-not-headed-for-impeachment-but-trump-makes-it-difficult-to-avoid.html

Then you hear/see corporate media idiots like Toad and see (I only watch a few programs on MSNBC and I don't watch CNN, but friends send clips to me of the things discussed on the various shows) several fools over at CNN saying Dems will be in trouble if they go after tRump and and get his base ramped up.

WHAT about the Dem base that was responsible for that BIG big blue wave we just had last fall where Dems snatched the house back in huge numbers? That meant nothing? According to most in the press and corporate media it didn't We may as well NOT have a Congress unless thuglicans are running it. We might as well just have ONE party rule and a thuglican KING running this country

Grasswire2

(13,564 posts)
12. The big blue wave you speak of is hot and furious for the CHECK they demand...
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:21 PM
May 2019

...and Nadler's nonchalance today between bites of his lunch seems to be infuriating those who see a clear and present and increasing danger to our Constitutional government.

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
13. My brother doesn't really pay much attention, but he
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:49 PM
May 2019

called me today and his observations were: WTF are democrats thinking?! 20+ people running and fighting against each other? He says democrats are doomed because of that and thinks trump will be re-elected just because that's the historical pattern. He's a millennial and thinks Biden has the best shot. He's not interested in trying out a risky nominee like Cory, Kamala, EW, BS, etc.

Buckeyeblue

(5,491 posts)
14. I think there are too many people running as well
Wed May 15, 2019, 09:07 PM
May 2019

Hopefully they start dropping out at the end of the year if they don't gain any traction.

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