Who else heard Rachel's remark "why isn't Trump being impeached right now?".

[triron]

She seemed exasperated.

[elleng]

1. JUST heard it.

More like LISTEN TO THIS, FOLKS, than 'exasperated,' imo.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. Good question!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[rusty quoin]

3. Rick Wilson?

He said there’s nothing better than rump wants than to play the princess victim.

I actually don’t know. I’m with Warren in shit yeah he’s gotta be impeached like he’s the fucking worst punk ever elected...TREASON.

But I’m not sure about the politics. Nothing has been normal for a long time.

[stopbush]

4. tRump wants impeachment because he assumes that it will be a consequence-free, one-sided

experience. He has not thought through what will be exposed publicly. He thinks that it will just be a word that is bandied about, not a public process that will air his dirty laundry.

He’s used to lying and not being challenged. Well, he will be greatly challenged during impeachment, with plenty of witnesses coming forth with damning evidence.

[misanthrope]

5. His assumption is it will further ossify the electorate

and he could be correct. Not only is our society built even more around immediate gratification but the speed at which political news comes roaring down the pike these days, with what would have been major stories happening weekly or quicker, then it has enhanced those tendencies.

A lot of the folks on this board would have never made it through the Watergate process.

[tinrobot]

6. He assumes it will be like the Clinton impeachment

Which was basically nothing.

His will be about as far away from that as it gets.

[Thekaspervote]

17. And he will get to play the victim. More name calling, bullying and feeding red meat to his base

[Chin music]

43. +1 SO true.

[uponit7771]

7. Fallacious, he's going to do that anyway and historically the party of the impeached has never fared

... well post impeachment.

[crazytown]

9. 2000: GOP won the House, Senate & Presidency

I’d call that faring pretty well, wouldn’t you?

[uponit7771]

19. Clinton is a democrat ..."the party of the impeached has never fared well"

[crazytown]

21. Gotcha

Sorry.

[Chin music]

29. 2000 the SC gave the presidency to Bush.

Let's not get hysterical.

[crazytown]

30. I haven't forgotten

I never will

[Chin music]

32. So...the impeachment didn't do what you said.

And isn't a reason, to not do it now. Just for the ole' record.

[crazytown]

42. Wrong way round.

The fact that Gore won after the GOP impeached Clinton, would be an argument NOT to impeach Trump.

[Chin music]

44. In your mind, not mine.

[crazytown]

46. I'm ALL in favor of impeaching MF 45

ASAP

[brooklynite]

24. The 2000 election was not a reflection of impeachment...the 1998 election was

Clinton ended up MORE popular after the House impeached him and the Senate failed to convict.

[uponit7771]

25. We agree, the 1998 election was horrible for democrats. They got their ass's kicked by a little ...

... less isn't winning control of anything and wasn't a positive outcome.

The "spin" of the post 98 impeachment is dems gained a net 2 seats as if gaining seats is the goal, gaining control of congress is the goal and the democrats didn't do that.

The other spin is Clinton became more popular right afterward but his popularity fell sharply post impeachment and so did his honesty numbers to the point Gore ran away from him.

Positive election outcomes didn't happen for the party of Johnson or Nixon post impeachment procedures.

The party of the impeached does not fare well post impeachment and never has

[brooklynite]

34. Perhaps you should discuss the "success" of the Republican's 1998 campaign with Newt Gingrich...

[uponit7771]

39. Newt had a huge scandal at that time, come on people. Bottom line, there is NO ..NONE ... grounded

... or cogent POLITICAL reason not to impeach.

Most of the what's been proffered has been BS spin.

If Pelosi is going through a process then we're there but people should stop proffering political reasons not to impeach... there factually aren't any.

[uponit7771]

45. Links to Newts Ethic Scandals (link), republicans didn't care about losing 2 nets seats as much as

... they cared that Newt was trying to take out his progression line and had to leave anyway.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/ethics.htm

[DeminPennswoods]

23. Wilson has credibility owing to his long career as a Republican

political operative. None of the Dem/liberal talking heads understand Republican political thinking the way Wilson does.

[Funtatlaguy]

26. It's lose/lose: We look weak if we don't, hyper partisan if we do.

[Richard D]

8. I didn't hear her remark, but . . .

. . .. I've been wondering the same thing for 2+ years.

[Lock him up.]

10. Maybe just waiting for the Flynn 'tape' and ...

the un-redacted parts of all that pertain to his case?

Two-weeks delay by Federal Court Order. If Barr refuses to comply (as expected), then open impeachment hearings to get the full un-redacted report? (Not to mention EVERYTHING else.) Show every crime and the evidence, and insist that nobody is above the law, day after day after day (except on Faux Noise).

[calimary]

11. She's not the only one.

[sandensea]

12. Why indeed.

[Chin music]

31. Fuck him.

Tomorrow isnt promised to anyone. Mitch could drop at any time. He's no spring chicken. Heart attacks happen. NOT acting bc we 'think' we know the results, on this one is UNAmerican.
If we wait long enough, the only "true patriots" will be the folks on those ships trumps sending into peril. Then for sure we will give ourselves the reason to fold on it.
I love Nancy Pelosi, but, we are all important. (As evidenced by...we all get the same amount of votes...ONE.) Even she says impeachment isn't off the table. Let's go, before trump locks this shit in with a war.

[sandensea]

33. You know what would be funny?

If he dropped dead - with a Russian male prostitute on top of him.

If he can pry Lindsey Graham away from the guy, anyway.

[Chin music]

35. You got that right. I'd be ok w his face in his morning scrambled eggs.

One things for sure, trump got through ANOTHER week, didn't he?
Meanwhile, on DU....

[sandensea]

40. Right. They're great at creating distractions

Which brings me to your earlier post:

You're absolutely right. Cheeto and his gangsters are very much planning, or at least mulling, some Gulf of Tonkin-style event as a pretext for war.

Trump has openly said so himself, that he'd like something "like 9/11" to make him a "war president."

Worked for Dubya, after all.

[Ligyron]

13. Take the political parties, personalities and time frame out of it.

Propose this situation to a high school civics class and they'd tell you impeachment is mandatory.

But wait, do they have civics classes in high school anymore?

[LibDemAlways]

14. I can only speak for California. One semester of

Government is required in senior year of high school. That's it. And because of the pressure from administrators to raise standardized test scores, teachers rarely mention anything currently in the news. This state is handing graduation diplomas to kids who can bluff their way through a basic algebra problem but couldn't have an intelligent discussion of the impeachment issue as pertains to the current situation if their lives depended on it.

[Chin music]

37. If you think that's bad, spend a few months in a tax funded charter "God" school.

Not only are kids given tests over and over sometimes, they are twice as coddled to make the numbers look good. 'We're going to give you some extra 'prayer points', to get you over the hump.' etc.
The fabric of the nation is tearing bc there's no leader at the top. Just some guy who thinks he deserves to be pampered on the American dime.
Tariffs, and destroying stuff other people have done, isn't governing. It's just a sham, to fill in for the sham election.
Meanwhile, trump is looking forward to his private meeting w putin at the G20.

[brooklynite]

38. ..and when I asked them WHY it was mandatory, what would their answer be?

[JI7]

16. the goal is to get him out of office and Republicans will not

do it and we need their votes to remove him.

so we have to think about the elections.

[Thekaspervote]

18. Yes indeed!!

[StarfishSaver]

20. She asked Schiff a similar question the other night and he explained it to her

But like some other folks, she doesn't seem to care whether the Democrats do it right as long as they do it NOW.

[mnmoderatedem]

22. for the same broken-record reason

GOP senators during Watergate:

"Mr president, you are guilty of obstructing justice, and it's time for you to step down."

GOP senators now:

"Mr president, you are guilty of obstructing justice, but don't worry, we will protect you at all cost."

[brooklynite]

36. No, not quite...

"Mr president, you are guilty of obstructing justice, and it's time for you to step down."

...NINE MONTHS after the "Saturday Night Massacre" and only when "smoking gun" evidence came out. A month before the tape was released the Republicans in the House and Senate were just as supportive of Nixon as they had been in November.

[Chin music]

41. Or maybe some of them switch to being Democrat, and save their cushy jobs?

Nobody knows. It's time for impeachment. If not now, when?

[rzemanfl]

27. I did. The answer is most of the Senate repukes have something to

hide and have circled the wagons. K&R.

[gibraltar72]

28. Anyone who listened.