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All of this. They were MAGA all the way until it affected them. I know this sounds rather evil but I hope they are hurting....
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)that's wrong then! I'm outraged now!!!!! ".
tblue37
(65,319 posts)Hekate
(90,642 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)The Mouth
(3,148 posts)the instant it appeared it might help Ronnie.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)"contracted it"?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)They still dont give a shit about us. They just whine and feel sorry for themselves.
Afromania
(2,768 posts)Everything could be overlooked because he hated the way they like to hate. They walked into this with their heads up in defiance. Well, I know I'm suffering as are so many other people. All I have to say is welcome to reality ya pricks. I hope they enjoy their stay because its going last a while.
Exactly!
TrishaJ
(797 posts)American had the audacity to get elected President and then re-elected. Then they were going to be DAMNED if a non-male American was going to be President next. It was all about the irrational fear that white men were losing their solid grip on power.
calimary
(81,210 posts)Especially the fact that for eight years there was a black guy in the Oval Office and he wasnt the janitor. And they sure didnt think some uppity cleaning lady deserved to be in the Oval Office either. Unless, of course, she brought the vacuum cleaner.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)until, as with abortion, it starts affecting middle-class white people. No litmus tests! Thats a niche issue! Why are you so divisive!
katmondoo
(6,454 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)The "lie down with dogs, get fleas" analogy is also apt...
It's all your fault! chants are also appropriate.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)I ALMOST feel sorry for these deplorables!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The ignorant, stupid fuckers can rot in their fields for all I care.
THEY caused this shit.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
paleotn
(17,911 posts)lastlib
(23,208 posts)I don't wish total annihilation on them, but I would like it to be painful enough that they come to realize how much this basturd is hurting all of us, and our democracy.
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)you can't fix STUPID
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
brutus smith
(685 posts)Guys like this couldn't of cared less when jobs were being shipped overseas.
dalton99a
(81,450 posts)marybourg
(12,620 posts)Not.
Madtown
(39 posts)"well I don't have Obama care, I get my insurance through ACA."
Therefore, we should end obama care because its an absolute disaster.
JHB
(37,158 posts)I remember when that happened, made me laugh just as hard again now!
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Rebl2
(13,490 posts)he wants to kill family farms so that corporate farms take over.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But I'm guessing that's what you actually meant
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)It is only a problem if it affects me or my family. Been that way for years.
tblue37
(65,319 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)It's all about what works for their own pocketbook. They are easily bought. I have a sister who voted for a Republican because he promised a tax rebate. That was a year when we all received about $300 a person. She was fine with that. Didn't care about anything else that was coming from the Oval Office. The campaign promise was complete.
wryter2000
(46,036 posts)Hes hurting the wrong people.
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rainin
(3,011 posts)Remember who else's patriotism was questioned? Colin Kaepernick. When asked, he explained it was for his family, his community. He kneeled to protect his family from being killed.
Your farm means less to me than black lives. Maybe that's just me.
Ponietz
(2,957 posts)[link:https://www.alternet.org/2019/05/yale-psychiatrist-explains-how-to-deprogram-trump-supporters-whove-been-sucked-into-the-vortex-of-his-lies/|
Also, outlines efforts from responsible psychiatric professionals to hold accountable the American Psychiatric Associationit protected Schlump with its misapplication of the Goldwater rule.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)If you were unable to figure out that:
Coal wasn't coming back, and if it did, those higher paying coal mining jobs were gone forever because mine owners don't have to hire folks who want "more than they deserve."
Steel mills wouldn't come back that would require investment of capital. So if you want steel mills in the US, better ask the taxpayers for bigger handouts.
Trade wars aren't easy to win, and most adversaries can hurt us right back.
The person telling you this stuff has a history of lies and deceit years long.
That would be stupid.
I think they knew, they either:
Didn't care because they couldn't predict that it might come back at them.
Agreed with the underlying racism, xenophobia and misogyny.
Actually are immune from the negative impacts of these policies.
So, not able to construct rational causal chains (note use of word rational, they seem to be able to construct irrational causal chains, see conspiracy theory.) That basket of deplorable, or actual elite. Are you seeing anybody else in the GOP base at this point?
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)The underlying message the psychiatrist is stating is something that many people understand about the difference between someone who is a liberal/progressive and someone who tends toward conservatism.
Conservatives tend to have a more activated amygdala. This means that they are more likely to be hyper-vigilant to things that cause fear. Everyone discriminates. It is a natural, evolutionary process that allowed the human species to survive predators and environmental dangers. As we have developed culture and society, there has been more and more knowledge and information that has pushed us to understand and embrace cultural differences. Those of us who tend toward liberalism have a tendency to adapt to those changes more readily.
Conservatives tend toward order, authority, and strict structures. All of this is meant to help them abate their anxiety and fear. This is why many conservatives are anti-intellectualism as well. Education expands and creates more complexity. To a person who is already fearful of change, requiring security, and searching for protection, rejecting the expansion of ideas is critical.
Emotions interfere with logical processing, Especially fear and anger. These people are so aroused emotionally that they are literally incapable of forming coherent rational thoughts. They are operating on emotion.
Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)And with the personalized data profiles that can be gleaned from social media, pros can tailor their manipulations on an individual level.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)It always seems to smack of self congratulation. There is clearly some basis for some of the the analysis, but too much of the basic conclusion seems to be driven by liberals own self conception.
I've always wondered if it wasn't just that trying to understand the consequences of your actions is hard, but doing what you've always done is easy. The fact that it doesn't yield positive results, isn't evaluated because "it's always worked before."
"The unexamined life is not worth living," may be true but how would you be able to determine that without examination?
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)Liberals have their own issues and there is obvious overlap. It isn't self congratulatory it is an explanation.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)How is that different from a fox viewer. The research you are proposing is largely anecdotal, it may be true but how can we tell?
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)I do.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)The research was not done to confirm bias, it was done to answer a question, namely, "Are there differences in the way that people who are conservative and people who are liberal think?"
https://research.cornell.edu/news-features/cultures-liberals-and-conservatives
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calling-truce-political-wars/?redirect=1
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160315120953.htm
When we add values and judgments saying, "Liberals are better because..." then that is when things go awry. There are differences and scientists try to find factors that create and influence those differences.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)I like to fact check myself, I mistrust stuff that falls too easily into the "just so story." I go to the research and try to understand the underlying quality of that research.
I've just gotten very cautious on that front. My skepticism has gone up. There may be "more" information available to us now than ever before, but the growth rate of BS seems higher.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Thought you were smarter than that...
Pray you vote Dem this time.
Stoopid probly wont.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)They caused this shit but STILL don;t know it.
Dead brain cells.. People this fucking stupid shouldn't even be ALLOWED to vote... or reproduce.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...telling "little guy" contractors what they wanted to hear, and then shafting them as soon as he had what he wanted. Left them hanging on by their fingernails or going under, just like you.
That's his "Can do" attitude. "Can do for me me MEEE!"
He wanted your vote. He got it. And he's giving you the shaft.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)We need to win back some of the non-racist, non-sexist, non-xenophobic Trump voters, but beating up on them feels so much better...
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)And be those things. If they were those things they would not have voted for Trump in the first place
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)...who were frustrated that politicians in both Parties weren't responding to their economic concerns, so they decided to flip over the table and go with someone who sold himself as a business genius. You can choose not to believe that, but I've heard that from Party leaders.
Brawndo
(535 posts)Morality, ethics, patriotism, empathy, basic decency would mean nothing to someone who could make that jump.
Talk about gain the world and lose your soul types.
zaj
(3,433 posts)Brawndo
(535 posts)I wouldn't discourage them from voting for us but I'm betting right-wing propaganda gets them to betray their self-interest and country, yet again.
zaj
(3,433 posts)Just by not attacking then when they do switch back.
Just like in a civil war, you have to put the people back together somehow.
A positive attitude goes a long way with a lot of people
Brawndo
(535 posts)That being said, I wouldn't stand in the way of their return from the dark side.
zaj
(3,433 posts)We need a huge wave to change course. We won't get it unless we win these people back.
You might not be the greeter at the front door. 😁
But hopefully you and others agree we need someone doing it.
And perhaps, given your level of understandable trust concerns, we keep you away from the guests until a later date?
Brawndo
(535 posts)zaj
(3,433 posts)... and some people will too.
Afromania
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Hate crimes are up, attacks on religious buildings are up, the administration is setting up shop to take away the right for women to do what they wish with their bodies. Not just here, but now across the globe via whatever leverage they can use. Oh yea, let's not forget how they are holding kids hostages and treating their parents like living pawn pieces as part of the gop game of petty shit.
The voters on the right are sitting on their fucking hands and shrugging at all of it. Every single impeachable offense is alright as long as "the right people are being hurt". They need to be taken to task for what they did by those that told them in clean and concise terms that THIS IS WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
The left pleaded and implored them not to vote for that evil con artist, but they decided not to listen. They absolutely LOVE how shitty he, and every single living breathing troll he surrounds himself with, is. At this point what they need is not to be hand patted, coddled, and told their vote for living garbage was all ok. That, they had an absolute, unailienable RIGHT to fuck us all because they were "scurred". They need to sit down and educate themselves, or let themselves be educated.
The big tent brigade needs to understand that these people DO NOT want to be educated. They don't want to do shit other than what they are doing. That being the never ending endeavor of persecution of anybody that isn't white, straight, fake ass Christian, or male; that is of course unless you have signed on to be one of their willing thralls. This kind of excusing them is EXACTLY why they continue to do this shit and keep on doing it until they are stood up to unambiguously. I mean, c'mon they have spent longer than I have been alive doing exactly this, EXACTLY THIS with the same bog standard results.
We need to forget that bipartisan nonsense, we need to make sure those of us that are sane vote. We recruit them and continue to educate them on why they need to vote. You can't trust any republican voter at this point. I mean, when exactly do you want to take them to task for fucking me, you, and themselves at every turn? At what point does it become clear these are not "decent humans".
They might be great neighbors, or friends, or whatever else to somebody, but they are simultaneously alright with the suffering of others. What good, kind and decent person is EVER ok enough with the suffering of people to actively encourage it? That's what they do when they vote for the garbage humans they vote for. They do it year after year, after year At what point do they have to reflect on their decisions and make new ones without the constant bending over backwards?
It sure as hell isn't going to be now with so many people STILL wanting to hold hands with them and wash away the simple fact republican voters have AND WILL CONTINUE to vote for trash individuals without some sort of negative intervention from us. I'm not saying we need to act like they do, but they need to be ignored. Their arguments should no longer be granted any merit, worth or value. Their dumb shit should be packed down and thrown out.
I want to thank you and everybody like you. By openly engaging in this you are announcing that you're willing to toss my ass, and the asses every other person under attack by trump and his cult, under the bus. In your efforts to recruit these craven bastards you've let me know exactly where we stand.
zaj
(3,433 posts)What part of what I said made you feel that way?
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)...which would let US deal with those issues And Ill work to get every voter I can.
Afromania
(2,768 posts)too many people have been given their rights back, or too many taxes have to be levied to fix the ridiculous debt trump has left us in, perhaps 20 months wasn't enough to fix 4 years of full on dedicated fuckery, or whatever. Destruction is easy, building is hard. You won't be able to convince them of this and There WILL be a reason why they vote for republicans again. There is always a reason why they can't give up voting for a republicans.
Sure, a few "may" have voted for Obama but they still voted for republicans all the way down the ballot to dog catcher. They'll do it again and all of the lower levels of government will remain in republican hands. We go through this again and again and again. Trump wasn't supposed to win this group or that and yet somehow these hateful idiots went ahead and voted for him anyway.
I casn not express any more sdtrongly that they cant be trusted to not screw us all. What will win elections is getting enough of the non voters on our side to vote, but I guess that won't do for everybody. Feel free to win elections in this manner. Don't mind me if I stand a few more steps left of the bus stop this time. I'm sort of tired of suddenly finding myself in the middle of the street.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)is an incredibly risky premise. The votes are in the middle. Some of them shift between Republican and Dermocratic. THAT's how we won back the House. That's how we'll win the Presidency.
Afromania
(2,768 posts)If they want to vote Democratic let them, but I have zero desire to join hands with people that either A)hate my ass enough to vote for white supremacists or B)are indifferent enough to vote for supremacists because they are getting something out of the deal from the people they vote for.
It's not like the other side is doing anything that benefits most of the country, but that's cool. Forgive me if I don't want to side with people that hate my skin that much. I'm not a purity die hard by any means but there comes a point when you get sick and tired of hearing later,now is not the time to, that's how we win, we need them, blah blah blah. It's all just excuses to plaster over the fact that many trump voters are awful.
When Hillary lost the first excuse was black people didn't turn out for Hillary like they did for Obama. "It was in black peoples best interest" to vote for Hillary. Well it was in the best interest of most everybody in this country to vote for Hillary. Why didn't they run that "best interest" bullshit across trump voters faces? Oh, we have to understand them and why they voted to fuck us all.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)To be a Trump supporter at all, you have to be an idiot or an asshole. Most likely both. You can't be neither.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Though I suppose you could lump those both into your two general categories, I think they're somewhat distinct phenomenon.
As an aside, I have a personal theory ... in the very most basic sense, Conservative voters are people who's brain structures are genetically more closely-related to Chimpanzees, whereas Liberal Voters are people who's brain structure is more closely-related to Bonobos.
These two species are known to be our two closest cousins, and even proto-hominids (let alone homo sapiens) are only a couple million years old ... the tiniest of blips in evolutionary history. We, as humans, are VERY MUCH like these two other mammals.
And you see this divide between liberal and conservative-type thinking throughout human history. Hell, Old Testament vs New Testament is basically Conservative vs. Liberal ... though the average wingnut won't be convinced of that idea, it is objectively true.
Anyways, I don't think this clear distinction between us and them ... is random, rather, I am of the opinion that liberals and conservatives are different genetically (though it's a very, very tiny difference, and both genes persist and are exhibited fairly randomly in offspring), and that eventually it will be discovered that we're more like bonobos, and they're more like chimps. Not different enough to be considered 'sub-species', and of course we've massively interbred throughout history, but ... there is a genetic difference.
bedazzled
(1,761 posts)Or a combination...
hatrack
(59,583 posts)Feel free to "reach out" and "win back" the imaginary Shitstain voters you describe above.
Feel free to reach out to any accordion-wielding elves or Krugerrand-shitting German Shepherds you meet along the way as well.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)Trust and believe.
No sympathy or effort wasted trying to convince the unconvincible,
If they happen to get smart on their own, great! That goes for Liberals voting third party too.
Im not here to kiss griping Liberals butts, if some of these people need enticed theyre too naive and selfish to waste time on.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Self inflicted problems. I should feel bad about other Americans, but, farmers are notoriously the type who joke and quip about Liberals. As if only republicans work hard and get their hands dirty making a living. christ almighty. Folks who constantly get subsidized and bailed out, but, get all froggy about everyone else. Sad all around, but, they need to get with the program. Sooner, rather than later preferably. Notice how the statement here is.."I'll not vote for trump again.", not...I've given up on the gop in general.
When 'the enemy' is fighting each other, leave them alone. (Or something like that...Sun Tzu.)
murielm99
(30,733 posts)We are not the only Democratic farmers in our county.
Most of my family comes from Minnesota where the majority of farmers are Democrats.
I don't appreciate the stereotyping. We are out here working hard to GOTV and to change minds. Sometimes we do change minds, especially at the local level. Local elections are important, too.
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paleotn
(17,911 posts)Shitler to NOT fuck them over? He's done that to nearly everyone he's come in contact with...friend and foe. If it profits him, he'd screw his own mother. He's a grifter. That's simply what they do. A blind person could see that plain as day. Ugh!
Bettie
(16,089 posts)because he'll give them some cash though subsidies.
treestar
(82,383 posts)As that vile woman said.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Why are they surprised that he raised tariffs? DUH.
Like the others, I'll save my sympathies for those who did not go along with hurting other people, in the first place, as long as it wasn't them.
at140
(6,110 posts)He would actually try to put in action his radical agenda.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)saying that increasing tariffs would just increase costs for the consumer, because increased tariffs on our part would just mean that another country would increase its tariffs. It wouldn't do anything but hurt US in the longrun.
Trump just responded like he always does: something like "that won't happen. Because I make deals. I'm the BEST at making deals. We're being taken advantage of, and I'm going to put a stop to that!" (the usual pack o' lies)
The farmers chose to believe the con man, instead of paying attention to the other Republicans. (I think Jeb Bush even said what Romney had said.) So they were warned. No sympathies from me.
ooky
(8,922 posts)They already had enough, but they thought that his tariffs were going to result in a harvest for themselves! They are reaping what they have sewn. Womp womp assholes.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)they just never guessed it would be THEM
zaj
(3,433 posts)We can't attack the people who see the light, and then expect to have them fight with us. We have to welcome them to the fight not attack them. Venting privately helps. Attacking publicly hurts.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)Oh, and fuck you for taking the rest of us down with you. Go to hell.
47of74
(18,470 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and "us versus them" mentality. Division is how the electorates of democracies are weaponized to destroy their own nations -- from within.
First they came for the right and we were divided, but the left stood and our democracy did not fail.
But now they've come for the left, and this thread is full of the toxic partisan hate they're spreading like a disease.
This is how it happens.
mia
(8,360 posts)Thank you.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Apreciate seeing that. This thread makes me want to go hide under the bed.
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They can go to hell. They have nobody to blame but themselves. And they are stupid and hateful enough to do the same thing all over again.
Here is what I have for them:
Hekate
(90,642 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Seriously. I have no sympathy for people who voted for him and people wanting me to reach out across the aisle in tolerant understanding can go fornicate themselves.
These fornicators voted for that orange idiot so they can goddamn well live with the consequences of their actions now. They can fornicating pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)....a gay man, a women, a black man or uncle joe on the ballot they may well go back to situation bankrupt but Trump
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)Stole that election, and probably have been since 2000. They just finally got caught. Jigs up. Never again.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)Dainty Digits told him who he was, and they were fine with it. He is just like all the rest of the Republicans, except in one regard: he says out loud what the others think and dogwhistle. Yet these rubes keep voting for them, because they hate the same people the rubes hate. Well, excuse me for not feeling sympathy when you get bit in the butt.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)n/t
ooky
(8,922 posts)and a womp womp there, here a womp, there a womp, everywhere a womp womp.🎼🎼
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Different Drummer
(7,613 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)Cry us a river. This has been Democrat Americans story for years. Wonder if he ever shed a tear for anyone else beyond the 4 corners of the old family farm?
Here's an idea...sell it for a wind farm or a solar farm. Start today paying this country back for all the years of selfishness and hate radio in the tractor cab.
calimary
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Its damn hard to find any sympathy for these individuals. And I am still trying to. But Im not having an easy time with it.
Shit. We WARNED them. We WARNED AND WARNED. And WARNED some MORE!
And we had facts. And we had his track record - with business. Screwing his contractors and subcontractors and misrepresenting all over everywhere.
With women. Vulgar statements, jokes, and sexual predation.
With HONESTY. Hiding his financials and lying about it. Lying about EVERYTHING, for that matter. The fake news - when HES the one whos a 100% pure FRAUD.
With racism and jingoism. Making the both-sides is excuses and yowling about building his wall and lying about how horrible people who dont look like you are.
And with the Russians. Lying about that, too, while the Russian infestation STILL rages on, to this day and this TRAITOR has done nothing about it. NOTHING has been or is being done to stop them - because he benefits from this infestation!
And the list goes on. And on. And ON!
And these marks - and yes. Thats what most, if not all, of his lower-income base is. Theyre marks. Targets. Who the CON man can CON from one side of the room to the other, exploiting their fears and resentments to benefit himself, not them. They fall for the slick talk and the TV celebrity gloss and glitter and the repetitive sales pitches. They fall for it all, despite being warned. And warned. And warned some more.
The truth is out there. It was during the campaign. It was during the transition. It was when he took over. And it still is, to this very hour. But they wont see it or acknowledge it as long as it hurts somebody else.
But now that its ringing THEIR doorbell, well now, thats different!
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)"He said he was gonna fix trade! But now I can't sell my crops so screw him!"
"When I voted for Trump he said he'd get rid of 'bad hombres'. I didn't think he'd deport MY husband!"
"I voted for Trump because I believed that Hillary was gonna get us involved in Syria but now he's trying to go to war with Iran!"
""I wanted Trump to go after those welfare queens in Chicago and New York but now he and Bevin are telling me that I gotta find a job to keep drawing food stamps? How am I supposed to work when nobody's hiring in this part of Kentucky?"
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)We told them about his bankruptcies, but they insisted he was brilliant in business.
We told them trump was a cheater in business, marriage, and golf, but his character didn't matter as long as he made them money.
We told them he was a liar, but they lapped up every word because it was what they wanted to hear.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)But welcome to the light, all hands on deck in 2020 to ditch this creep, keep the House, and if possible retake the Senate.....which would be easier if 35% of the people did not control 70% of the Senate, i.e. Idaho has 2 Senators the same as California.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Last edited Sat May 18, 2019, 06:38 PM - Edit history (1)
That says it all right there. And why I've pretty much come to the conclusion that about a third of this country are a bunch of intolerable pricks.
They saw that guy that mocked a disabled man on TV, bragged about violating women, attacked Gold Star parents, and incited violence against Muslim, Latinx and black people, and checked the box for him anyways.
Proof in the pudding - if you voted for Trump, you're a fucking total piece of shit.
Explain to my why I'm wrong on this.
Different Drummer
(7,613 posts)He hates the same people they do. Surely that counts for something.
To paraphrase part of the lyrics from the opening of the "Super Chicken" cartoon:
"But if they're afraid, they'll have to overlook it. Besides, they knew the job was dangerous when they took it.'
betsuni
(25,459 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Oh, so NOW youve got a smattering of sense in your thick, Trump-hat-covered skulls? Sorry, MAGAts, you broke it, you pay for it!
Unfortunately, your tight-white vote for fascism is screwing us ALL.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Different Drummer
(7,613 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)good should come to them no sharing or concern of others because they are the only hard working Americans in the country
Now dullards on the dole say what?
Hav
(5,969 posts)It hurts economically, now, but it felt good sticking it to those other people before. The later these people have a change of mind, the worse it speaks about them. So much has happened since the election that having second thoughts now is, well, the sign of a deplorable character.
"This is survival at this point"
As it is literally for refugees and it is for those who depend on health care.
Sorry, no money for you. We need to build that wall!
Mr.Bill
(24,280 posts)is that we care about other people. They don't.
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bitterross
(4,066 posts)I think you are a normal person.
I want them to feel some pain too. It's the only way they seem to be able to learn. Logic, evidence, reality, don't seem teach them anything.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)And they will still pull the levers for Trump and the GOP.
sandensea
(21,624 posts)You live, you learn.
Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)Many still cling to the "Hillary would have been worse" bullshit and believe every damn thing that was said about the most qualified, competent, stable, and Presidential candidate on the ballot.
They will fall for the same shit all over again.