Police ID teen tackled after bringing gun to Oregon school

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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Police released the identity Saturday of an 18-year-old student who was tackled after reportedly bringing a gun into classroom at an Oregon high school.

Angel Granados Dias had been booked into the Multnomah County Detention Center on suspicion of possessing a firearm in a public building, attempting to shoot a gun at a school and reckless endangerment, the Portland Police Bureau said.

He is a student at Parkrose High School, where he brought the shotgun Friday, authorities said. Witnesses told The Oregonian/OregonLive that he appeared distraught when he appeared at the door to their government class and pulled the weapon from beneath a long black trench coat, and that a football and track coach who also works security at the school, Keanon Lowe, tackled him before anyone got hurt. Lowe is a former football standout at the University of Oregon.

About 10 minutes before the end of class, the student appeared in the doorway in a black trench coat and pulled out a long gun from beneath his coat, senior Justyn Wilcox, who also was in the room, told The Oregonian/OregonLive. The student didn’t point the gun at anyone, senior Alexa Pope said. Students fled out the back door because the gunman was blocking the main doorway.

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[abqtommy]

1. Many and profound thanks to

Keanon Lowe!

[2naSalit]

2. And he didn't have a gun...nt

[Igel]

3. The guard/coach, I assume.

You don't need a gun if you have surprise, if the guy "attempting to shoot the gun" is just standing there and not doing anything even as dangerous as using it as a club, or if there are enough of you.

This is what I tell my students. If forced to fight, you want to be in an unexpected place with whatever weapon you have to surprise the dork; if his weapon jams or if he's reloading, that's down time in which the gunman should be taken down, and if he's aiming to shoot 20 of us it's actually better for 10 of us to die disarming the guy than it is for all 20 to cower in the corner and simply hope that the air magically thickens to provide a bullet-proof shield.

In other words, absolute binary thinking isn't appropriate here.

On the other hand, if you don't have surprise on your side, if the guy does know how to fire a gun (and, even worse, aim it), or if you're alone, then bringing a fist to gun fight is completely different from bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Was it a wise man or a fool that said you don't bring a knife to a gunfight?

And if a knife isn't enough, then fists are certainly even more dispreferred.

Excuse me, gotta go, yet another wonderful cat has just opted to expel a hairball onto the carpet.

[2naSalit]

5. I've had the training...

both for working in a federal environment (indoor/outdoor) and a county courthouse. Given it a time or two myself. The point I was making is that the "good guy" didn't have a gun to truncate a mass shooting.

[CanonRay]

4. This kid thought his life sucked before.

He's a legal adult, he's likely going to spend his 20s in prison.

[Hoyt]

6. Is it another teen who stole daddy's guns? As mentioned above, he was stopped by an unarmed man.

If a gun-stroker had been around, I'm sure they would have opened fire.

[hunter]

7. I think all open-carry idiots ought to be tackled.

It doesn't happen much around here because open carry is illegal and the police regularly shoot these fools, immediately dangerous or not. One of our neighbors died that way. It wasn't clear if he just wanted to show off his gun, if he wanted to shoot someone at the local fast food place, or if it was suicide-by-cop.

I'd include many cops among the open carry idiots, but I learned young that tackling them was a bad idea.