Wait, you weren't supposed to actually ban abortion!

[sheshe2]

Contrary to what many think, overturning Roe wouldn’t make abortion illegal all over the country. It would return the US to the condition it was before Roe, where abortion was legal in some states and illegal in others. But it would allow, of course, for those legislatures which so wished to make abortion illegal in toto, setting up a two-tier system, where mostly blue states would keep abortion rights and mostly red states would turn into versions of Margaret Atwood’s Republic of Gilead. (Yes, I name-checked Atwood. There was a book before there was a series.)

https://the-handmaids-tale.fandom.com/wiki/Republic_of_Gilead

Republic of Gilead

Here’s the thing, though: it was never supposed to get this far.

The religious right has spent the better part of 40 years demonizing abortion and Roe v. Wade. That demonization has brought it power, influence, and wealth. It kept selling its rubes that it would do away with abortion all over the country, if only they would send a donation of $20 or $100 or more to fight the good fight—a fight which never seemed close to being won.

Of course, if you keep priming the pump, if you keep selling the gullible and fervent your vision of paradise, eventually they’re going to demand that it be enacted. That’s what happened in Alabama, and Georgia, and Ohio. The 40-year war against abortion rights has reached its logical conclusion as ideologues raised in the cause have achieved power. They didn’t get the memo that this was only supposed to be a rhetorical war, to be maintained in perpetuum to keep the holy warriors on the warpath. Because the thing is that once bans start to be enacted, the grift is upended. Once Jesus actually makes his second coming, then shit gets real.

Link to tweet

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So now even Pat Robertson is panicking. When you do something too extreme for Robertson, one can assume that he and his ilk know the backlash that is coming. When the fight against abortion existed merely in the rhetorical world, they could keep the con going and milk the money out of the true believers. But now the true believers are in power, and they didn’t know that they weren’t supposed to actually act on their beliefs. They, the sillies, thought they were elected to cleanse the land. And they’re doing it, by hook and crook.

Read More:https://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2019/5/15/wait-you-werent-supposed-to-actually-ban-abortion

The backlash is coming. I don't want just a blue wave. I want a Tsunami. The ocean pulls back, away from the shore then turns and lashes back with a powerful vengeance. How? We vote. You just do not mess with 51% of the of this country, vengeance is ours and we have so many standing behind us, all sexes, all religions, gay or straight. Let's vote them out and take our country back and then move it forward.

[BigmanPigman]

1. BRAVO!!!!

[sheshe2]

5. I wish I could make the next wave of marches/protests.

However I am doing what many women do right now and that is becoming the mother of my mother that has become the child. Mom home care. We get no benefits like reimbursement for care and time. Doing it 24/7. Pretty sure Warren touched on this point. Sorry, to tired to look it up.

Thanks. It was a spot on article and we are far from done with the pasty white, whining assholes that want want to be our masters. LOL....they can all fugg off. We will see ya all in 2020...wave after wave after wave of us.

[BigmanPigman]

7. Many more people are in the same situation as you

these days. I read an article about a new book by the cartoonist of the "Cathy" comic strips. She says that a lot of women are being pressed like a panini between taking care of aging parents and helping their grown kids out with their kids, etc. The pressures are never ending and much of it falls on the women and not the men in the US. My friend is doing all of that and taking care of a newly diagnosed husband with cancer (on top of everything else). I know your mom appreciates it. A woman's work is never done.

[sheshe2]

15. Yep. nt

[redwitch]

29. I know how hard it is to do what you're doing.

Trying to find the little bits of energy for self care seems like too much effort. Hang in there and keep fighting! Big virtual hug from me to you.

[Wounded Bear]

2. I've always believed this...

that the Repub PTB never really wanted to abolish abortion, but wanted to use it as a perpetual vote grabbing machine as their sheeple fall in line.

I'm hoping for some real backlash. Women voters drove 2018 in large part, this could give additional momentum for 2020.

[TreasonousBastard]

8. I have seen it pointed out many times that the worst thing to happen to abortion foes would...

be abortion actually becoming illegal. They would have to completely realign their message and fundraising. And would lose their power. (They have, of course, gone too far forcing an 11-year old raped by her uncle to have the baby.)

Look at MADD-- after reaching its original goals of publicizing drunk driving and getting better laws to help stop it, its founder quit because she saw it as becoming a temperance organization. The goal shifted from stopping drunk driving to stopping drinking.

I hope there is a backlash, but remember that there are many women who are against abortion, considering maternity a blessing and perfectly natural. They are quite capable of making a deal saying "OK, just drop the really nasty parts..."

[sheshe2]

16. I think there will be a huge backlash.

For those women that are against abortion? I believe we have far more soles and souls of every sex on the ground. This has to do with a woman's body, yet they are not the only ones that have a care. More are with us than against. I was there for that first women's march, it was far more than women present.

[TreasonousBastard]

20. I certainly hope so-- I'm just not sure it won't go down the...

same hole so many other things that seemed so obvious went down.

[in2herbs]

3. I agree, which is why we need a president who is courageous enough to stand up to the

Trumpanzees instead of believing we can all get along when Trump is out of office. Our youth are the ones sent to fight wars, not our elders. What is the reason for that?

[sheshe2]

19. Well.

in2herbs

3. I agree, which is why we need a president who is courageous enough to stand up to the

Trumpanzees instead of believing we can all get along when Trump is out of office.

Are you talking about Biden here? He called for unity, not laying down and taking it. Joe is one of the candidates that is actually going after Trump and not attacking Dems.

Our youth are the ones sent to fight wars, not our elders. What is the reason for that?

Really? For all the ages our youth have been sent to war. Not our elders? I think you forgot our history of war. My Grandfather fought WWI my father WWII. Dads ship, a mine sweeper, was awaiting orders in the South Pacific to sweep the Sea of Japan just before the attack on Pearl Harbor.

I have no clue how you can possibly state that it is our youth that are sent to war and not the youths that are/were our elders now when they were sent.

[Demsrule86]

23. Stand up and do what? Without some sort of shift nothing gets done...this os

th reality.e

[brer cat]

4. I do believe a backlash is coming.

Women aren't "things" for them to regulate.

[sheshe2]

6. Me, I believe it is too brer.

Iconic Photograph of Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman-Hughes Recreated Over 40 Years Later







https://www.makers.com/blog/iconic-photograph-gloria-steinem-and-dorothy-pitman-hughes

[kag]

11. What a great photo to recreate!

Thanks for posting it.

[sheshe2]

12. You are welcome , kag.

Love it.

Women Power.

[IronLionZion]

9. Queen Daenerys should do the red states next

[Duppers]

10. K & R

A 1000 recommends.

[lunatica]

13. It was always a wedge issue

The Republicans and Evangelicals had three wedge issues they always used, especially during Presidential elections. Abortion, illegal aliens stealing your job and the gay “agenda” to pervert little boys.

Once the elections were over the crazed religiosity would die down.

They’re unable to use the gay community now that LBGT community are treated as equals so they've doubled down on illegal immigrants and women’s right with a vicious vengeance. And the reason it’s so incredibly nasty now is because Trump deliberately keeps the fire roaring, making the Presidential election wedge issues a permanent feature.

[ginnyinWI]

28. Yes. I have relatives for whom the abortion issue decides their vote.

It doesn't matter about anything else. They aren't paying attention to anything else.

The candidates trot out their wedge issue and that settles it.

I never forgot a comment by a lady while I was canvassing for Kerry in 2004: "I'd never vote for that baby-killer."

Any Democrat is automatically a baby-killer.

[NewJeffCT]

31. It's similar on guns

Most Americans support at least some additional restrictions on guns, like improved background checks, etc.

However, there is a segment of Republicans that vote on that one issue - a late friend of mine was generally fairly liberal on most social issues - pro choice, pro legalization of pot, etc - but, he loved his guns and would always vote Republican because he was afraid that Democrats were coming for his guns.

[A HERETIC I AM]

14. I've said this before on DU, but it is important to understand that these people will not go quietly

It's going to get a LOT worse before it gets better.


The hard right Christian fundamentalist types in this country have gotten a LOT of pushback over the last 15 years or so, (edit...more like 25 years or so, but accelerating with the web. ) I think really since the advent of the internet, which finally allowed like minded people that are scattered across the country to join forces and voices.

There has been a lot of resistance to conservative, Christian led politics recently and they don't like it, not one little bit, nosiree. And now they have a man in the white house and a Senate Majority Leader who will do what they have been asking for, for decades, to facilitate a return to an era that they seem to think were "the good old days" but in fact, never really existed.

Way too many of these types seem to think that the days of the nuclear family doing everything together, and particularly attending church every Sunday - think "Leave it to Beaver" and "Ozzie and Harriet", dad working and mom at home....that this is the way America SHOULD be and dammit, they are going to see to it that it's that way again.

But it never existed. With the exception of certain enclaves of upper middle class, suburbia in the 50's and 60's, most Americans never had that. Ever. Except on TV.

But while they got this asshole in the White House and that other asshole in the Senate, they are going to shove as many of these bullshit, backward, theocratic laws down our throats as they possibly can.

It irks the "religious leaders" (read "Folks that love to tell you how to live" ) to no end that church attendance is down dramatically over the last decade or two. It means they are losing their grip on influence and their grip on the wallets of the fleeced...er...flock.

And again, they don't fucking like it.

Not at all.

And they won't give up without a serious fight.

[betsuni]

17. They're killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

[mcar]

18. Women were pissed in 2018

Now we are filled with rage. These idiots do not know what they have wrought.

[sheshe2]

22. Good.

I always knew they were stupid and would push a step to far. Consensual Rape et all!!!!!!!

The rage goes to the ballot box and they can stand the hell out of our way.

[ecstatic]

21. That's why our number 1 focus has to be in securing our elections,

stopping voter suppression, voter purging, and shady e-voting machines with no paper trails. It won't matter what the will of the people is if we're not allowed to vote.

[Demsrule86]

24. Our number one focus must be taking 2019. ..in numbers too big to steal.

Too late for an election overhaul which must be done at the state level.., we must focus any efforts on states we have to win.

[ecstatic]

25. Good point. But as soon as we take it,

we have to do something quick to prevent future shenanigans.

[Demsrule86]

35. At the federal level...justice dep. ooking for foreign tampering but elections are run by states and

Wevdo not work as hard for state and congressional elections. A presidential is not our savior but one 1/3 of what we need to get our policy enacted.

[MineralMan]

26. Exactly. Those states that have enacted anti-abortion laws

that go far beyond reason may have empowered a backlash that goes even farther in solidifying women's right to choose.

In those states, perhaps change is coming to the legislative domination of white Republican men. 2020 is coming. It's time for clear-thinking people to run against the morons who enacted those over-reaching laws. We should all support those challengers.

[marlakay]

39. My governor just made all abortions free

I am in Oregon and praise her for this. I expect a lot of other blue states will make their position stronger too.

[MineralMan]

40. Yes, I heard about that.

It's wonderful, and I wish it had gotten more publicity in the news.

That is the proper response to those red states full of misogynistic legislators.

[Rambling Man]

27. So, let the Trump gang run amok until 2020

and then Dems win across the board in a landslide-wave-Tsunami, is that the plan?

[MineralMan]

41. Do you have a shortcut solution?

If so, please tell us what it is.

[Rambling Man]

44. If I had a solution

I wouldn't ask the question.

If you have a substantive question or even an answer, please proceed.

[MineralMan]

46. No, of course I don't have an answer.

We have elections every couple of years that affect our federal government. The next one is in 2020. I see no way to speed that up. In fact, there is no mechanism to do so. That's the reality of the situation. I suggest we all make the very best use of that time.

[dalton99a]

30. The day of reckoning is coming.

[boston bean]

32. I look forward to a bluenami.

[Rambling Man]

33. Did they shore up the electronic voting hackability issues

and reverse all the red state Jim Crow legislation yet?

What steps are being take to ENSURE we have free and fair elections in 2020?

[MineralMan]

42. Not yet. What's your plan to help make that happen?

See, I don't live in one of those states, so nobody listens to me there.

[Rambling Man]

43. Ummm, what's your plan?

It's about as senseless to ask me as it is for me to ask you, because neither one of us as individual persons have any power to effect that change.

Unless snark was your point to begin with, then MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. You pwned a Lib!

[MineralMan]

45. I don't have one. Voting issues are state issues.

Where I live, we have a very, very good election system that would be almost impossible to corrupt. Before that, I lived in California, which also had an excellent system for elections.

I take it that you live somewhere that doesn't have such a system. Since elections are run by the states, it is up to each state to make its elections fair and honest. Apparently, some states have not done that.

I'm afraid I can't help, though. I'm not going to move to some state with an unfair election system, just so I can change it.

The US Constitution leaves elections up to the individual states, under the assumption that everyone wants fair elections. That could be changed with an amendment, but such an amendment seems very unlikely to be ratified, or even to be introduced, actually.

So, the solution for your state begins with you. I don't live there.

[sheshe2]

34. Bluenami.

I like that, bean!

[Mosby]

36. K and R

[mainer]

38. just like Trump killed gun manufacturers. They got what they "wanted"

They got a president who would never ban their guns.

and the gun industry is now in serious trouble.

[robbedvoter]

47. Samantha Bee's history of making abortion their thing