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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIran wants war!
Pretty obvious, isn't it? They're itching for a fight!
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Larrybanal
(227 posts)but it is impossible in the middle east. gotta keep spending military money so they can demand more next year
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,654 posts)We assisted Saddam in the 80's because of his war with Iran. Once that ended, Saddam was no longer our "friend."
9/11 was the excuse to go into Afghanistan (somewhat justified), and was twisted into the false justification for Iraq. Surrounding Iran was the strategic premise.
Midnight Writer
(21,765 posts)Iraq was the starting point because Hussein was not a Muslim fundamentalist and therefore would not stir up a lot of Muslim resistance. Afghanistan was chosen for its strategic location, both for oil transport and positioning of military assets. That puts Iran right in the middle, for the next conquest. This is Phase One. After completion of Phase One, we would control Iraq's oil, Iran's oil, and oil from the "Stans".
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)than are we Democrats.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)And I wish our DEM candidates would spread this info far and wide.
What a great argument, in my view, for getting rid of the fascists in republican garb.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)It was common knowledge. Nobody seemed to care. Second Gulf War comes along and no one remembers the hit list. They take Colin Powell's word for it that there are WMDs. Why? Bill Kristol dissolves the PNAC in 2006 and forms Foreign Policy Initiative in 2009. The FPI dissolved in 2017. These are very strange happenings if you ask me. PNAC was prelude to the Gulf War II. FPI, though? I believe FPI was a no-no because they viewed Russia as an enemy.
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)sandensea
(21,635 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)will have heads up of a couple of weeks before Mueller sits to testify. During that lead up there will be attacks on Saudi, Israeli and US interests by "Iran". Think Erik Prince and his black OPs will be helping craft the story leading up to boom boom and eating up the headlines.
Farmer-Rick
(10,170 posts)PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)But it is US that should not be attacking Iran.
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)My Rep is a member of the 'freedom caucus,' so that probably won't do anything, but I'm calling him too.
certainot
(9,090 posts)that's the problem, and those 1500 stations played a huge part in getting us into iraq.
AllaN01Bear
(18,205 posts)but it goes back further than that . ronnie messed up the rescue attempt of the hostages , (remember iran contra) to make jimmy carter look bad . thence always have to get iran or fill in the blank. our country has been at war with so and so for 200 years . isnt it time to come home ?
Moostache
(9,895 posts)WTactualF???
As much as the sabre rattling and current administration are a huge problem, its just as much a problem for us to be operating 38 military bases in the region - not including black sites, naval deployments or local influence and infiltration into militias and tribal areas.
So sick of hearing "how would we pay for THAT?" or "the new green deal is TOO expensive"...fuck all of that shit. Want to save a crap ton of money? Burn down Empire USA and close all by a very few overseas bases and forward operating areas. Bring the boys home, alive and with less dammage to their minds and bodies...
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)The US pulled out of Prince Sultan in Saudi Arabia in 2003, giving Osama bin Laden what he wanted most. The point, however, is accurate.
safeinOhio
(32,676 posts)The CIA has publicly admitted for the first time that it was behind the notorious 1953 coup against Iran's democratically elected prime minister Mohammad Mosaddeq, in documents that also show how the British government tried to block the release of information about its own involvement in his overthrow.
Misaddeq was loved by the people and we installed the brutal Shah. It ain't our freedom they hate. It's our love of oil.
Initech
(100,075 posts)He's just manipulating us because we have a history of that sort of thing. And an uncontrollable man child at the helm who could actually carry it out.