Ari Melber: Dems holding "pivotal" meeting tomorrow on impeachment

[Miles Archer]

Not much detail beyond that...supposedly the meeting is about ramping up pressure on Speaker Pelosi to start impeachment.

[BigmanPigman]

1. That seems to be the plan.

Two weeks ago the tides started to turn in favor of beginning impeachment hearings at the least. I definitely noted it and commented on it. Since then it has grown stronger by the day. The public opinion changed first and then some of the Dems in Congress and the Senate finally began to see the light.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. What I fear though, is that we lost the impact of immediately doing something

when Mueller report came out. Boom - this is UNACCEPTABLE - we are proceeding immediately. This indecision now, although (I guess some may say) prudent, can also be perceived as weakness. If you were appalled by his behavior as outlined in the Mueller report - you should have known that instantly and stated so. Logistics, plan forward to come. Yell it from the rooftops asap - closest to the evidence as possible - so the public connects cause and effect. Now, it's like EVERY person gets to debate pros and cons of impeachment. UGH - bad call IMHO

But, better late than never. Water under bridge. Sorry, just pissed off about all this.

[BigmanPigman]

13. I know,

you're preaching to the choir. I was for it from the start and that was not the overall feeling on DU at the time. Since then I have posted two polls and this site started to lean toward impeachment a few weeks ahead of the general public.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Great minds think alike

And so do we

[BigmanPigman]

25. HA!

[UniteFightBack]

2. I still think they should let the pressure build. Let the white trash house keep stonewalling it's

not a good look.

[triron]

3. No more damn waiting!

[misanthrope]

27. I agree. Ever since Mueller filed a report

the Trump administration has hastened the visibility of their obstructive acts. The more rope that is reeled out, the more loops they keep putting in their own noose.

[StarfishSaver]

4. It's the regular Wednesday morning Democratic caucus meeting

The Democratic members meet every Wednesday morning at the same time when they're in session to discuss strategy, issues, votes, etc. There is nothing special about this meeting other than they are likely to talk about impeachment.

But I'm not surprised at Ari's hyperbole. The media is panting for drama

[Miles Archer]

6. That's what's largely going on...attempting to pressure Dems they interview in 3 areas:

1). Asking them if they are in favor of impeachment

2). Asking them to give some sort of percentage regarding total members of the House who are in favor of impeachment

3). Asking them where the "tipping point" is when impeachment will be unavoidable

[StarfishSaver]

7. The media is dying for impeachment proceedings and not out of any concern

For the country. They want ratings and a show.

They probably already have the theme music and cued up and the snappy graphics (IMPEACHMENT 2019: THE BATTLE FOR AMERICA'S FUTURE) ready to go

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Wow sounds just like someone we know - fake media. There happen to be people in

the press who ARE wanting truth and justice. You can see it and feel it. If anyone needs to be held accountable it's MF45. Funny how some never mention that part.

[rzemanfl]

18. Bookmarking. n/t

[ProudLib72]

23. Now this is something we can agree on

There is the opportunity to expose the Rump and his cronies, but my bet is on the MSM focusing their attention on 'a spectacular partisan war.'

[misanthrope]

28. Yes, you have to bear in mind that cable news

is big business and what they are in service to is profits above all else. The reason TV news is as slipshod as it has become is due to laziness and sensationalism.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

5. FINALLY!! Bout time... but, better late than never!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

[Honeycombe8]

9. There have probably been meetings before. And there will be more. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

11. Yes and, hopefully, they'll give Nancy a little nudge to deliver

what the vast majority of Democrats want... moving forward with impeachment hearings. If she does that, she should be commended fo making another smart move as Speaker.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. +1

[Honeycombe8]

17. I don't think the masses should make the call, since many don't even know...

many don't even know what legal evidence is. You can't just impeach because you read somewhere that Trump did this or that, if you want people to vote for impeachment. You have to cite hard proof. Consider that the Clinton impeachment was easy peasy...it was a few lines in a deposition that Congress already had. That's it.

Consider that Congress doesn't even HAVE all the evidence that is referenced in the Mueller Report yet, as far as I know. It's locked up somewhere, altho I think they can view it. It's a huge report with thousands of pages of evidence.

They have lawyers they're consulting with. They have one shot at it. Clyburn said it has to be done right, if they do it. He seemed to also want the public to be more aware of things. Things are moving along, he said,and things are going their way. He didn't say, but I thought he might be wanting more Republicans to have time to consider things and maybe go along with it.

[StarfishSaver]

16. This isn't a "pivotal meeting about impeachment"

It's the standing weekly Democratic caucus meeting they have every Wednesday morning. Impeachment is one of the topics on the agenda. Very different than some in the media are breathlessly claiming.

[Honeycombe8]

8. I imagine there will be many meetings on this, and already have been.

They are hashing through their strategy, the options, the goals, possible results, timing, and all the rest. They all have to be on board and aware of everything they agree to do.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Hope not - it makes us look weak/too political IMHO.

[Honeycombe8]

19. Not to me. This is complicated.

It doesn't seem complicated on the surface. But it is. And it's a serious, huge step. We are in uncharted territory.

It's a GOOD thing that they get their ducks in a row, and when they have enough evidence of crimes or whatever the cause for impeachment may be, they do it. We get one shot. It has to be perfect, if it's done.

It would be best if the public were more aware of things and more on board with impeachment. I think the public at this time doesn't want to see impeachment. Democrats do, but not the majority of Americans. So I think they want a few more people to agree with it, after they see some of the evidence.

This isn't simple like Clinton's impeachment, and much more complicated than Watergate.

There's a group in the House that doesn't want impeachment so far. They're waiting for more or something more concrete. They don't want to be goaded into impeachment or seen as jumping the gun for politics.

I think (and I have no basis for it), that they might be waiting to see what the financial records reveal. Maybe they suspect there's something in the records showing an illegal act with Russia, or something like that.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. I hear you. And thanks for being respectful toward another viewpoint.

I suppose since we missed the maximum impact point, getting our ducks in a row now, wouldn't hurt. Too bad general public doesn't give two shits anymore. Trump dropped to 37% approval right after Mueller report came out, then when we did nothing, it rebounded. Timing.

Still, sorry, think this whole phase of "should we impeach? or not?" hurts us tremendously. Indecisive. There is something so very powerful in reacting immediately - cause and effect. Immediacy adds credibility and legitimacy to the charges.

It is totally stupid of me to keep saying that since it's impossible to correct now. Hopefully, one day soon, I will get over it

[Honeycombe8]

26. Well, you could be right. I don't know.

I just don't know all the facts behind the scene. I don't think they could impeach right at the time, because they didn't even have the evidence. The Mueller Report isn't evidence. It's a report on the evidence. I think a group of people with a lot more experience than I have (which is no experience w/this at all) is better at deciding what to do than I am, so whatever they decide and do, I will support. I think it would have been viewed as hasty and ONLY political, if they'd opened an impeachment investigation immediately after the Mueller Report, since Mueller had decided to do nothing himself. It was a 400 page report, and needed to be read thoroughly, digested, and discussed, before doing anything without giving it enough thought. The public would not have been behind it, either.

I'll support whatever they do. I think if they don't, that will hurt the Democratic Party, which will be seen as weak, not doing its job, and give a signal that the Repubs can do anything w/o the Democrats fighting back.

[gldstwmn]

21. Good. We don't even know what shape our democracy

is in or if it's even still intact. How much do the Russians know? What do they know? Were they given the keys to the proverbial candy store? Because that is what we're going to have to be prepared to deal with once/if our long national nightmare is over.

[FakeNoose]

22. Well they need to all get on the same page, whatever they decide

It's very confusing when different Democratic leaders say or tweet different things.
It should be the same message from everyone.

Just sayin'

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. You know you seldom, if ever, see republicans disagree. At least not in public. They

All agree on principle...make the rich richer and keep their supporters who are not rich happy.