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hlthe2b
(102,105 posts)OKIsItJustMe
(19,937 posts)"We do believe that its important to follow the facts. We believe that no one is above the law, including the president of the United States. And we believe that the president of the United States is engaged in a cover-up," Pelosi said after a closed-door caucus meeting with House Democrats to discuss their efforts to conduct oversight and investigations of the Trump administration.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I can hear the drumbeat growing louder.
TheBlackAdder
(28,163 posts).
That should immediately trigger an investigation.
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triron
(21,984 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Although in this case the crimes are many.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Donny is openly covering up and you're saying you only "believe" he is covering up.
"Donald Trump is covering up something. Corruption? Collusion? Treason? Bribery? Money Laundering? All of the above?"
TwilightZone
(25,426 posts)and people would still complain.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Response to TwilightZone (Reply #9)
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DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)Ducks in row is what she is working on. Please calm down.
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)Taking it step by step towards an air-tight case.
pazzyanne
(6,543 posts)As an old saying goes, "Haste makes waste!"
Chemisse
(30,802 posts)Maybe this is part of her compromise with those who are anxious to get going on impeachment. Ratchet up the public discourse so the people start to GET ready.
progressoid
(49,933 posts)Like we did during the Bush years.
Stuart G
(38,410 posts)That is the process must be air tight. Fair and reasonable. Carefully and with due process.
..Why? Because it is for the viewing of the entire country. For all of us. The three sentences above are the key. As we move along, if we meet those requirements, most, say 75 percent of the country will go along with impeachment. Maybe as much as 80 percent. That is more than enough to get the job done. Yes, there are always "true believers" But as 80 percent believes Trump needs to go, then the others become unimportant.
...Trump is a lying evil con man. He lies all the time about everything. Most people are already sure he has committed crimes. Do this slowly, fair, reasonable, open, due process for all to see and our country will win.
The words, "cover up" are not new, but those words are very special. All of us understand what that is about. And it is a true and true and honest telling of who Trump is. "Cover up" is the key. Nancy knows, I know, most of us know. It was what Nixon did to "cover up" the crimes associated with the break in, and "cover up" of the Watergate scandal. That is all, and that is it.
canetoad
(17,135 posts)Even in my 20s, in Australia, I remember the words, "The cover-up is worse than the crime."
coti
(4,612 posts)ancianita
(35,926 posts)only be soft.
Remember that the courts can see patterns in all the obstruction from before and the stall moves of his legal crew now.
As was said elsewhere around DU, her side has to have all "due diligence" done before the courts.
She agrees with you. This language you call "soft" remains in the due diligence lane that evidence allows. She has other lanes and contexts to move Dems forward in such that no legal brakes can be applied at any point.
Once this is thoroughly done, courts and all, Komrade Don will have no truthful claims he can use against the Dems in the GE.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)We hear know all this stuff but the general public doesn't. She has to be cautious and bring them along carefully.
KPN
(15,635 posts)what she said. Ive been calling to impeach now. This was a huge step for her and the party. It really shows that the pressure to ITMF now is and has had an effect. And Speaker Pelosi handled herself and the statement well. There is no higher statement than we believe that doesnt get easily discounted as just more partisanship.
Have faith ... and keep up the pressure. She (Pelosi) and our other House leaders need our support (and that includes prodding they need to know we have their back).
dalton99a
(81,386 posts)Start the hearings
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Mnuchin got his butt handed to him in one this morning
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)Ohioboy
(3,238 posts)Not Trump...
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)down, was the cover up. I don't know why folks have a problem with making sure you have your ducks in a row.
Go Nancy!
onetexan
(13,019 posts)global1
(25,219 posts)The cover-up is worse than the crime.
Stuart G
(38,410 posts)show and knows the story.
world wide wally
(21,734 posts)lamp_shade
(14,814 posts)onenote
(42,531 posts)It takes 217 votes to authorize the Judiciary Committee to initiate an impeachment inquiry (the House currently has 433 members including the repub elected in PA yesterday).
That means if 20 Democrats aren't ready to support an impeachment inquiry (and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case), an attempt to start that inquiry would fail.
Let the pressure continue to increase. If a couple more Repubs follow Amash, it will give cover to the reluctant Democrats to support the initiation of an inquiry.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)that would oppose..
onenote
(42,531 posts)The Blue Dog Coalition has 27 members. Most are pretty cautious. They'll come around, but probably not until there is more pressure (and more Repub defections).
lamp_shade
(14,814 posts)SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)House of Rep.
onenote
(42,531 posts)But I don't think they're ready to go all in on impeachment quite yet.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)is to allow people to think it was their idea for her to do exactly what she intended to do all along.
Pelosi's not "buckling" at all.
CaptainTruth
(6,572 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)FreeBe
(104 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)SayItLoud
(1,701 posts)Republicans strategy is rapid fire, confusion, obfuscation and move on.
Democratic strategy is bits and pieces with little or no thread or continuity. We let the media run with it and we respond.
Pelosi and spox need to state the foundation for what they plan. Then with every presser or planned statement remind everyone of the foundation and add the next floor.
Every statement needs to end with a well thought out and powerful tag line: OUR Constitution, everyone's constitution regardless of political affiliation or no affiliation REQUIRES US, as representatives of the people of America to investigate and bring the truth to you.
Just sayin..
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And if their statements contain the wording you suggest, that will convince them to impeachment?
Locrian
(4,522 posts)'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that realityjudiciously, as you willwe'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.
~ generally attributed to Karl Rove
Chakaconcarne
(2,429 posts)It's a start but....
BSdetect
(8,994 posts)All eager to avoid convictions for assisting with treason.
jalan48
(13,839 posts)Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)I knew Nancy would come through.
Moral Compass
(1,513 posts)Madame Speaker is letting the pressures build.
She knows she not only has to address Trump but Barr as well.
Amash turning was exceptionally important. The DOJ just backed down and will release the documents related to the Mueller report. Nadler is going after McGahn and the administration for McGahn no showing.
Tick tock.
Chipper Chat
(9,671 posts)Hooterville
(6 posts)to send some more 'strongly worded letters'. That's all the Dems seem to be capable of.
It's been over 6 months since the midterm elections and we haven't moved an inch.
Where is the action?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's fun to pretend that that which we refuse to see does not exist. Irrational.. but damned fun.
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)What do you suppose ought to be done about this?
Hint: "Nothing" is the least acceptable option there is.
Stop thinking about the political ramifications for a change. Impeach because the president has committed impeachable offenses. In broad daylight. Doesn't matter if there's "bi-partisan support" for conviction in the Senate. Most of the GOP in that chamber is complicit anyway--especially one Mr. McConnell.
And then, in 2020, the voters will have their say as well. But we at least have to give 'em some credit for knowing a criminal when they see one...
Hekate
(90,538 posts)GO, NANCY!
Politicub
(12,165 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Nancy Pelosi rocks!
Javaman
(62,497 posts)whatcha gonna do?
triron
(21,984 posts)DFW
(54,268 posts)Shades of 1974.............
https://www.history.com/topics/1970s/watergate
Using the word "cover-up" when referring to presidential misdeeds usually recalls one thing, or rather one person--and he left the presidency in disgrace on August 9th, 1974. Trump has no clue what disgrace is, but that does not preclude others from demonstrating it to him in no uncertain terms.
When the Speaker of the House uses that word in a deliberately crafted public statement, there is good reason to figure the term was NOT chosen at random.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(2,663 posts)Jail or else, nothing less for the blowhard
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They will bring him down. Tick tock.
honest.abe
(8,610 posts)Seems that is where we are heading.
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)Nitram
(22,755 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)'Cause you KNOW that got to him.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,347 posts)I'm tired of words. How many decades have the Dems spoken out but been too timid to actually take action? Too many.
It's wearing really thin, and I'm tired of getting all excited because a dem says something strong and right and I think, "Ha - this is the boom!" and then no boom. Not even a bang. Or a thump. Or a knock.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)Which the GOP will claim credit for if it ever got tabled and passed in the Senate anyways.
Luciferous
(6,077 posts)and we just wag our fingers at them like it's going to accomplish something.
Hassler
(3,369 posts)dchill
(38,433 posts)MasonDreams
(756 posts)Can you imagine those two smiling and laughing in front of him?
Stargleamer
(1,985 posts)that's why Roy Cohn was retained. The question is will someone finally take decisive action against him or not?
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)This soundbite will go down in history as a pivotal point in Chump's 2020 political demise.
Luciferous
(6,077 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,711 posts)He crapped his Depends and canceled the infrastructure meeting.