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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPrediction the Trump administration will defy a court order
to hand over his tax returns to congress and when that happens I don't think there will be any justifiable reason not to impeach him.
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)He really thinks he is above the law.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Delusional scum.
Maru Kitteh
(28,333 posts)(Putin, Kim, etc.) and taking to heart all the flattery and subversion they whisper in his ear, he's convinced himself he can really be as "great" as they are.
One can be certain Kim and Putin have fed into his delusions about the press, his paranoia about threats from within, and goaded him into taking ever-more authoritarian control because he is "a great leader" and "his country needs him to take control."
centrarchus
(62 posts)Besides fear.
spin
(17,493 posts)in the Supreme Court.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)would rule for Trump on this one. Would probably be 5-4 in favor of congress. With Roberts being the one to vote against Trump. Shouldn't be that close though a case like this should be 9-0.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)Even Gorsuch and Kavanaugh aren't that far gone (both have them have sided with the liberal four on a few cases so far) - and they aren't beholden to Trump because they have lifetime appointments and he can't fire them.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)Will he defy a Supreme Court order? If he does, then what?
Getch'er fresh, hot constitutional crisis right here!
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)"I have all the soldiers. All law enforcement works for ME!"
That's how he thinks
Chin music
(23,002 posts)a heart beat if they were paid the right figure, bc, that's what soldiers for hire do. Think I'm exaggerating? See Blackwater in New Orleans /Hurricane Katrina. BW already went there. 15 years ago.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,780 posts)And they are sworn to defend this country from enemies foreign and domestic. Even if that enemy is the President.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)because he will think there will not be enough votes in the senate to remove him from office and he will probably be right.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)Bettie
(16,083 posts)while wildly tweeting about how disloyal they are.
Wounded Bear
(58,618 posts)even if it is cloudy.
pecosbob
(7,534 posts)nothing anyone with any other prayer of reprieve would bring into court.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,780 posts)To defy a Court Order is the kiss of death......
Every Democrat must run on this .
ooky
(8,919 posts)He won't be the one physically turning over his tax returns. That, I presume, would be the IRS chief. So unless he's willing to go to jail for Trump then Trump will have no power or leverage left to stop it.
Personally I think if this makes it to the SCOTUS it will be a unanomous decision against His Majesty. And there is always a chance SCOTUS will refuse to hear it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)because he doesn't have physical custody of them (except for copies). But I could see him defying an order to do something he does have control over. Nixon had physical control of the tapes; the question came up even in those days whether he would obey the Supreme Court and cough them up, which he finally did. If there are records only Trump has and that he's ordered to produce, I bet he wouldn't do it.
ooky
(8,919 posts)But I 'm hopeful this particular situation is slipping away from him. If the courts don't act as a lackey for him it looks like he will be down to relying on the IRS chief to throw himself in front of the bus that could be just about to run Trump over. I hope...