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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed May 22, 2019, 04:16 PM May 2019

*****BREAKING NEWS*****Judge Refuses to block congressional subpoena (SECOND RULING)









Judge rejects Trump’s request to halt congressional subpoenas for his banking records https://wapo.st/2JWHAPb

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Judge rejects Trump’s request to halt congressional subpoenas for his banking records
A federal judge on Wednesday said Deutsche Bank and Capital One may hand over the president’s financial records to Democrats in the House. This is a developing story. It will be updated.

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*****BREAKING NEWS*****Judge Refuses to block congressional subpoena (SECOND RULING) (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 OP
From my twitter feed Gothmog May 2019 #1
Is this the breaking news from yesterday..... Brother Buzz May 2019 #2
Second ruling, Trump v. Deutsche. herding cats May 2019 #3
Indeed, good news Brother Buzz May 2019 #4
Fluid indeed! mobeau69 May 2019 #6
Well, it all started with a pee tape, so it should be fluid! Dem2theMax May 2019 #26
so far Trump is still a zero rurallib May 2019 #13
My husband would have called Trump "a Rimless Zero"------something less than nothing! Doitnow May 2019 #16
"null komma nichts" in German: 0.0 !!! fierywoman May 2019 #20
Second ruling - but a different court! Grins May 2019 #17
This is WYP news! mobeau69 May 2019 #5
He sounds Mexican...can't trust him.... Caliman73 May 2019 #10
For one reason or another, Trump can't trust ANY judge! dchill May 2019 #24
Cant read tweets superpatriotman May 2019 #7
here Celerity May 2019 #8
That was fast! LanternWaste May 2019 #9
Deutsche Bank, Capital One can give financial records to House Democrats struggle4progress May 2019 #11
tick tock... dhill926 May 2019 #12
What's next? Higher court? TRussia will appeal Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #14
Why do they continue to pick on the aged and infirm?! ProudLib72 May 2019 #15
Poor Boo Boo! smirkymonkey May 2019 #18
The shaky foundation.... SergeStorms May 2019 #19
Judge Told Trump Attorneys Their Case To Block Subpoenas Isn't 'Serious' Gothmog May 2019 #21
Iran better watch out durablend May 2019 #22
My thoughts exactly Fritz Walter May 2019 #28
I remember when the Special Prosecutor was initiated patphil May 2019 #23
Judge to trump, Deutsche Bank and Capital One: "What's in your wallet?" George II May 2019 #25
Several pictures of himself. Kurt V. May 2019 #27
What is going to happen MuseRider May 2019 #29
Tough luck Trumpy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #30
For me, the money quote is: Fortinbras Armstrong May 2019 #31

mobeau69

(11,138 posts)
5. This is WYP news!
Wed May 22, 2019, 04:28 PM
May 2019

Love these fast moving judges!

“I will not enjoin enforcement of the subpoenas,” Judge Edgardo Ramos said after hearing arguments from lawyers for Trump and Congress.

The decision means Deutsche Bank and Capital One may now release Trump’s financial records.

Ramos’s ruling came as Trump continues his battle over congressional oversight.

Earlier a lawyer for the Congressional committees argued that the subpoenas were misconstrued as solely targeting the president and his family, saying they’re part of a “complex investigation across a whole industry, not just Mr Trump.”

He also hit back against claims from Trump that it’s an overreach to subpoena his family members.The lawyer said people use family members to hide assets.

“They put them in the names of their grandchildren,” he said, providing a general example of how people conceal assets.

“This is what people committing financial fraud do,” he also said generally of hiding assets.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
10. He sounds Mexican...can't trust him....
Wed May 22, 2019, 04:43 PM
May 2019



Though I am sure Trump will have something to say about Judge Ramos' ethnicity as a way of trying to discredit the ruling. He is vile and I would not put anything past him.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. That was fast!
Wed May 22, 2019, 04:40 PM
May 2019

I would have guessed the ruling wouldn't have come down until next week at the earliest.

Good.

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
11. Deutsche Bank, Capital One can give financial records to House Democrats
Wed May 22, 2019, 04:43 PM
May 2019

PUBLISHED 43 MIN AGO
UPDATED MOMENTS AGO
Dan Mangan
Kevin Breuninger

A federal judge in New York City on Wednesday said Deutsche Bank and Capitol One can turn over financial documents related to President Donald Trump and his businesses in response to subpoenas from House Democrats.

Judge Edgardo Ramos’s ruling came after a hearing at which lawyers for Trump, his three older children, Donald Jr. Eric and Ivanka, and the Trump Organization argued that the subpoenas to the two banks should be quashed.

Ramos, an appointee of President Barack Obama, said that the Trump clan’s arguments “are not sufficiently serious as it relates to Supreme Court precedent” dealing with the question of turning over documents to Congress ...

Deutsche Bank for years has been the main lender for Trump, whom other banks have avoided loaning money to because of his repeated bankruptcies. Capital One is in posssesion of financial records related to the Trump Organization’s hotels. Neither bank had opposed the subpoenas ...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/22/judge-says-deutsche-bank-can-give-trump-financial-records-to-democrats.html

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
19. The shaky foundation....
Wed May 22, 2019, 05:39 PM
May 2019

for Trump's "defense" continues to crumble at an accelerated rate. It makes my heart (and most of my brain) rejoice!

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
21. Judge Told Trump Attorneys Their Case To Block Subpoenas Isn't 'Serious'
Wed May 22, 2019, 05:56 PM
May 2019



The bench ruling came two days after D.C. federal judge Amit Mehta issued a lengthy and broad opinion denying a similar request from Trump to shut down a Congressional subpoena to his accountant Mazars. In that opinion, Mehta compared Trump’s behavior to that of President Buchanan.

Ramos called Mehta’s opinion “thorough,” and quoted it in his own ruling.

Ramos’s decision came after lengthy and contentious oral arguments, during which the judge took pain to grill both sides.

The private attorney representing Trump at the hearing — Patrick Strawbridge of Consovoy McCarthy Park — stammered as he attempted to respond to an initial volley of questions from Ramos.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
28. My thoughts exactly
Wed May 22, 2019, 06:31 PM
May 2019

1. Twitter meltdown.
2. Spleen-venting on Faux Gnus.
3. Naval/Air strike against a perceived enemy.
4. RepubliCONs pledge wholehearted support to this tantrum.
5. Main$tream media seize opportunity to boost ratings during May ratings sweeps.

Lather
Rinse
Repeat

patphil

(6,158 posts)
23. I remember when the Special Prosecutor was initiated
Wed May 22, 2019, 06:03 PM
May 2019

Trump said his finances were off limits, and any attempt to get at his finances would result in the Special Prosecutor being fired.
Well, now it looks like the House is going to get a look at them.
I suspect that Trump's financial dealings are going to be bigger than his obstruction of justice.
We just took a giant step toward impeachment hearings.
And, Trump just peed his pants.
Yellow hair down their also.

Patrick Phillips

MuseRider

(34,103 posts)
29. What is going to happen
Wed May 22, 2019, 06:49 PM
May 2019

to him when he finds out we do not all love him and hang on every overuse of every word in his small vocabulary?

More than anything I want that narcissistic streak broken and I want him to see who he really is and give a damn about that. It will make him feel like he has made thousands of other people feel. Justice. (I know, never gonna happen)

Turn 'em over, we need to see them.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
31. For me, the money quote is:
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:17 AM
May 2019

"Judge Ramos said he agreed with Mr. Trump’s claim that turning over financial records to Congress could cause him and his family irreparable harm. But, he said, the merits of the congressional committees’ goals outweighed that harm." -- NY Times

Turning over the financial records of criminal enterprises generally is harmful to the criminal. Remember, they got Al Capone on tax evasion.

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