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May 22, 2019
Mike Huckabees Epic Fight to Keep Beachgoers Off His Patch of Florida Sand
The former presidential candidates legal and lobbying crusade aims to make a once-public beach private.
Stephanie Mencimer
Not long after his failed 2008 presidential bid, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee bought a beachfront plot in the Florida Panhandle and built a three-story, 10,000-square-foot mansion, with six bedrooms, seven-and-a-half bathrooms, and a pool. By planting his flag in the Florida sugar sand, Huckabee was escaping Arkansas income taxes and joining other rich Republicans who owned houses in this particular part of Walton County, including Karl Rove. The beach house was a sign that hed made it. As he explained in an email to a state senator years later, Having grown up dirt poor in Arkansas, I never thought Id see saltwater in person, much less live on a beach.
There was just one problem: Huckabee built his dream house on a public beach, a spot where some of the more than 4 million spring breakers and tourists who come to Walton County each year had been parking their lawn chairs and fishing poles since time immemorial. That meant the Fox News contributor had to share much of the 115-foot-long spit of sand in front of his $6 million house with those who helped pay for itthe people who watch his TV show. And he didnt like it one bit.
So Huckabee, father of White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, lobbied local officials to cleanse it of the riffraff. Now, along with his rich neighbors, hes taken the matter to court. In doing so, he and the other wealthy beachfront property owners have set off an epic legal battle, one that has Florida cops booting unsuspecting tourists off the beaches just as summer vacation season sets in.
The issue has become so toxic that the states Republican governor skipped out on some public appearances to avoid protesters last year. Beach access activists say the legal fight has larger implications, not just for Florida but across the country, as wealthy, powerful people try to annex public beachfronts for their private benefit. This is just the beginning, says Santa Rosa Beach attorney Daniel Uhlfelder, one of the activists leading the fight against beach privatization. If theyre able to pull this off, theyre going to take this to other coastlines around the country.
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/05/mike-huckabees-epic-fight-to-keep-beachgoers-off-his-patch-of-florida-sand/
malaise
(268,993 posts)I mean HATE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE!!!
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)Panama City Beach used to be magical. Now you can't fucking get to it without renting a condo.
I HATE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)nothing but condos.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)I had friends who lived down there in the 90s and I would visit and yeah, those Panama City Beaches were wonderful - living in PA I was used to the "dirtier" Atlantic Ocean beaches and it was almost like a caribean beach, they were never too crowded, great access ...
malaise
(268,993 posts)Same shit in our tiny islands - they don't want the locals on our beaches
olegramps
(8,200 posts)malaise
(268,993 posts)Totally agree
ooky
(8,922 posts)woodsprite
(11,914 posts)Actually, it was Emerald Isle, and NC Supreme dismisses the case on 12/14/16 ex mero motu,
Town Manager said the dismissal means the North Carolina Court of Appeals ruling in the towns favor stands. As a result of this dismissal, the November 2015 opinion of the N.C. Court of Appeals is now the definitive law on public beach access in Emerald Isle, and everywhere in North Carolina, Rush said in the towns statement regarding the decision of the states highest court. The town is pleased with the courts decision, which clarifies the publics historical and continuing right to use the dry-sand beach, from the base of the dunes to the water, everywhere in North Carolina.
https://www.topsailadvertiser.com/news/20161214/nc-supreme-court-drops-case-over-beachfront-property-rights
Submariner
(12,504 posts)and wanted the beach in front of his house closed to the public. The last I heard CA told him to shove it, and Romney sold the house.
mnhtnbb
(31,388 posts)area of NC--does provide great beach access. Not parking, good luck with that, but there are multiple rows of single family houses and duplexes not right on the ocean. Every block or two there are city maintained boardwalks with access to the beach. Miles of it.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Huck should have listened to Jesus.
Matthew 7:26-27
26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.
obamanut2012
(26,071 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)I was originally thinking that this phony pastor didn't want footprints in the sand.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)entire Huckerbee clan does not want people to see them in their blubbery glory, wearing bathing suits. They look like a gathering of "Overeaters Anonymous" when they assemble. Or possible the son who abuses animals wants his privacy?
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)The Huckerbee clan can hardly be called svelte and healthy looking. Just telling it like it is.
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)obamanut2012
(26,071 posts)Like Richard Branson did.
PWPippinesq
(195 posts)The seas will rise.
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)in a double-wide trailer parked at the Governor's mansion in Little Rock.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjn85zey7HiAhWEjFQKHd6vAyAQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Farchives%2Fla-xpm-2000-jul-19-mn-55365-story.html&psig=AOvVaw10-XlVAHjON80o60lKNjXN&ust=1558698822384928
tblue37
(65,340 posts)trusty elf
(7,393 posts)sop
(10,177 posts)Huckabee: "When I was in college, we used to take a popcorn popper . . . and we would fry squirrel."
keithbvadu2
(36,796 posts)Like the televangelists' private planes, the elite do not want to be amongst the demonic public.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Jeeeeezus has no relation to Jesus Christ
Jeeeeezus is a con-god grifter who shares their love of wealth, McMansions, private jets, and hates the same people they do.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and need not live like ordinary Americans. Sick.
TeamPooka
(24,225 posts)who can't share.
Mariana
(14,856 posts)that transforms its adherents into decent people.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Last edited Thu May 23, 2019, 08:51 AM - Edit history (1)
No kidding, stealing common ground is a huge problem in Florida. Make no mistake, they intend to dig out enclaves of privilege for themselves.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Mostly driven by Republicans who use their high level jobs in the city and use their military experience like it gives them carte blanche to abuse their community leadership roles. The way I see it, they only serve on community boards to advance their own interests and those of their friends and kin folk. I don't see how this can't go against them in the end nor can I see the military approving how retired military officers shit on fiduciary responsibility to advance an agenda that is very definitely discriminatory in nature.
I will certainly be following the legal arguments on the cases that go against Huckabee.
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)They tried to close off the beach access points, I think there are 12 of them, and when that failed, the county commissioners just made it so you could not park along A1A. Now there are still the access points, just can't park within 10 miles of them.
And don't even get me started on Panama City Beach. That was my playground growing up. We would rent a room in one of the Mom and Pop hotels across the street from the beach. 3-4 per room for 20-40 bucks a night for the room. We play all day on the beach, then sit and drink with the owners or night managers by the pool at night.
Now you can't get to the beach because of the condos.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Last edited Thu May 23, 2019, 11:12 AM - Edit history (1)
make sure we have good, unconflicted lawyers to fight our cause, I'll contribute. I may even volunteer to go fetch coffee for them at Starbucks!
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Why doesn't a uber entrepreneur come up with a taxi'ing service between the parking lot and the beach in Ponte Vedra.
See, if we have better progressive representation in Florida, the beaches would turn into a rallying cry.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...they should make it a nude beach.
RESIST!
AllaN01Bear
(18,201 posts)i aggree if you have the money you can do anything. i hadte mike hukkabie.
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)have to be public beaches.
No California beach can be private by law.
All beaches belong to the citizens and everyone
gets to enjoy any view, play on the sand or water.
When I read stories like this, just shows me how
selfish people can be.
Beaches are for everyones enjoyment.
lostnfound
(16,179 posts)Always felt proud of Florida for being a place where even relatively poor people could have a good life, biking to the beaches
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)in La Jolla, here in San Diego (yes this is the house with a car elevator in the garage).
He didn't like people enjoying the beach in front of his house and tried to get them
kicked off. Obviously to no avail.
But this is an example of the selfish greed the GOP has.
That's why the acronym GOP to me, means "Greedy One Percent".
lostnfound
(16,179 posts)aggiesal
(8,914 posts)I do not have a patent or trademark for it.
Initech
(100,070 posts)Does Mike keep a vintage mint condition Gran Torino in his garage by any chance?
Javaman
(62,530 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)In Fl. with many wealthy and some famous residents who have tried and failed. Indian River County has some of the strictest beach zoning laws in the state and as far as I know they have not been able to pull it off here.
czarjak
(11,274 posts)Theres probably some sinners amongst them there Sand Squaters!
NoMoreRepugs
(9,423 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Once you gain access to a beach, you should have the right to walk as far as you can go. I reject the right of Americans who try to "own" the beach. I have many a time trespassed across such "property." Your right to enforce such a claim would need to include No trespassing signage or barriers on the water's edge (which I would ignore) and calling law enforcement who should have higher priorities. If I gain access to a public part of a beach, I walk as far as I want. I have NEVER been stopped.
Do not let scumbags like Huckabee steal your rights.
sop
(10,177 posts)in dozens of Florida communities, and they've always lost. It's the perfect example of how the wealthy love socialism for them, and capitalism for the rest of us.
The high cost of maintaining and re-nourishing beach sand lost through normal erosion, constant longshore drift (the movement of material along a coast by waves which approach at an angle to the shore but recede directly away from it) and regular tropical storms along Florida's coastline is paid for by all Florida taxpayers. Without regular beach sand nourishment and maintenance, the ocean Huckabee loves so much would soon be in his living room, or his home completely washed away.
The cost of homeowner's insurance (and federal flood insurance) has increased dramatically for everyone in Florida, even those living inland, just so these wealthy beachfront homeowners can insure their expensive homes at affordable rates. The general public subsidizes the high cost of insurance for these waterfront properties through higher premiums on everyone's homes.
In areas where the coastline has been built up with condos and private homes, blocking access to the public beachs, cities and counties must provide easy public beach access, building and maintaining numerous walkways and ramps along the entire length of beach, leading from the ocean-front highways to the public beach areas. These public easements between the homes/condos have been opposed by property owners, but they always lose in court.
Farmer-Rick
(10,169 posts)"In 2012, Huckabee hired a lawyer and asked a judge to grant him ownership of the land stretching from the dune at the foot of his house down to the mean high-water lineessentially the wet sand and the Gulf of Mexico itself. No one appears to have protested the request, and the judge agreed, giving Huckabee the public beach for a mere $400. Nearly two dozen of his neighbors have also quietly annexed the beach while escaping any additional taxes. The result is a checkerboard of public and private space along the waters edge for miles of Walton beachfront. Huckabees beach is private, but his next-door neighbors isnt.
In 2016, the rash of homeowners attempting to privatize their beaches prompted Walton County to pass an ordinance declaring all 26 miles of beach in the county open for public use, although many remained privately owned. The county was on solid ground here: The Florida Supreme Court had declared the publics right to enjoy the dry sand of private beaches back in 1974."
Funny, I thought all of Florida was private beach.
So, they conned some stupid judge to give them ownership for pennies on the dollar and avoided taxes to boot. If that's not a cool little scam I don't know what is. You can bet the tax man would be at our door the minute we gained some more land.
But then all those tourists, who use to hand over billions of dollars to use the beaches found out they couldn't use the beaches anymore. The owners of rental properties lost out on big bucks because their guests couldn't use the beach that was directly in front of their front door.
"Tourism and hospitality are the driving forces in Walton Countys economy, providing 19,500 jobs for area residents and having a $2.8 billion direct economic impact." https://www.850businessmagazine.com/walton-countys-tourism-industry-continues-to-grow/
So if they let those beaches remain private and owned by a handful of tax dodging capitalist kings, the county will lose over $2.8 billion dollars from tax paying tourists. And tourism seems to be increasing by 10% each year. So, are they really going to lock up all that beach front so one tax dodger can have a private view? Another example of how there is no such thing as trickle down economics. It's always trickle up. Huckabee and other scummy rich people take away from the common areas that use to be used by everyone. How feudal of them.
I once rented a townhouse less than a block from the beach along the coast of Florida. This was many years ago when beaches weren't so crowded. It was gorgeous. But every time we went out on the beach we would get weird stares from a group of people who seemed to show up everyday too.
On our 3rd morning to the beach we were greeted by uniformed security guards. My kids smiled and waved at them thinking they were there protecting us all. But no, they came up to tell us we were not allowed on the beach and pointed to some big house sitting up on the dunes. I said but the townhouse landlord said it was all public beach. The guards said no it was purchased earlier that year by the owners of the big house.
We returned to our townhouse and called up the landlord. He was spitting mad. We cancelled the rental and went home. We got a 50% refund since we only stayed half the time. Ever since then. I just assumed all of Florida beaches were privately owned except for a handful of areas the rich didn't want.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Once the local tourist economy tanks, they wont be welcome in any restaurants
They will fail in this fight tho
Brother Buzz
(36,424 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)Beaches are supposed to be public, but individual towns charge a fortune for parking. Westport has always been notorious for this. A jogger was denied entrance to a Greenwich town beach. He filed suit and won.
Taylor Swift tried it in Rhode Island where she purchased property, then tried to keep the public off her beach. She and her neighbors took it to court. I'm not sure of the outcome.
Turin_C3PO
(13,990 posts)Response to babylonsister (Original post)
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