Trump; Prison or resignation? What would you prefer?

[WiseElder]

Thinking back to Spiro Agnew the US Attorney had him cold on bribery charges that would have sent him to prison for a long time. Agnew's lawyers negotiated a "deal" where he would trade his resignation as VP for no jail time.

Trump will probably be in the same position. My feeling is that if he is NOT re-elected then I would prefer they just wait him out and send him to prison. IF there are enough idiots to re-elect him then I think he may be able to get the same deal Agnew got.

Your thoughts?

[redstatebluegirl]

1. Prison, hands down.

If he is out, he will continue to stir up division through twitter and his crazy MAGATS.

[hlthe2b]

2. I can't say definitively (though my impulses are clear)

All I know is that Nixon's resignation in lieu of impeachment/removal and subsequent pardon put a halt to any REAL deterrent effect on future candidates--at least someone as lawless as Trump. We can not let that happen again.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. Yes. nt

[TreasonousBastard]

4. Wherever he is, I would just prefer to never hear of or from him again.

[LibinMo]

44. THIS

X 1000

[sop]

86. Trump will be tweeting ugly, divisive shit till the day he dies

And the media will slavishly report every single lie. At least George W. Bush went back to Texas and took up painting.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

5. RESIGNATION would be better....

Prison will come afterwards.

Resignation is admitting LOSING, DEFEAT. Trump never admits he lost at anything.

[Moostache]

6. Prison...no doubt

I WANT to read his tweet storms from the clink...comedic gold in waiting.

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. All of the above. aSAP

[forgotmylogin]

87. You want me to pick a favorite child?

[smirkymonkey]

8. Do you REALLY want to know?

I can't say it, but I'll go with prison as long as he can't tweet or go on television. I never want to see or hear from him again.

[trueblue2007]

84. i agree with you. i don't want to hear his voice. silence his voice. Remove him forever.

[kag]

85. Pretty sure I'm reading your mind.

And I concur.

[roamer65]

92. As do I.

[grumpyduck]

9. Prison. Show that our politicians are just as accountable as anyone else.

[ooky]

10. I don't think this coward will ever go to prison. I'm guessing he would

run to Russia first before he would allow that to happen. I'm not sure a resignation would work if it leaves the door open for a state prosection, which certainly seems to be an issue for President Bonespurs.

[Dave Starsky]

33. Why would the Russians want him?

With his combination of idiot brain, fat mouth that won't shut up, and long history assisting them with illegal acts, I would think they would consider having him around a liability.

I think he might find greener pastures in his other favorite country, Saudi Arabia. Isn't that where Idi Amin took refuge? They are similar in many ways.

[ooky]

52. I don't know, maybe to pay him back for helping launder their lootings.

Perhaps the Saudi's may help him out. He better hope someone wants him because he's likely facing a jail cell somewhere in New York's state penal system if he doesn't find a good place he can run to.

Whatever, he better be careful if he's looking to Putin for help. I'm guessing that Putin could just as easily have him thrown out of an airplane as wanting to actually help him hide from American justice.

[shanny]

80. He's as asset, not an ally or a friend.

A tool to be be discarded when it's job is done. Putin achieves his aim--disrupting and weakening the US--and retains plausible deniability.

Rump won't be running off to Russia. So sad for him.

[ooky]

88. No doubt.

They could still give him a safe place to land if they wanted to. Its the same with the Saudis. Nobody has any use for him once he is no longer president.

But he would be wise to find a place to run if he wants to avoid incarceration because the State of New York seems to be getting serious about prosecuting him.

[pecosbob]

11. I want to see him living in a refigerator box on a sidewalk in the Bronx...

muttering to passersby about emails.

[ScratchCat]

12. Trump is 73-years old and a POTUS

Even if he is impeached and charged criminally, he would never see the inside of a prison in his life.

Why? He's 73 and with the appeals process, father time is likely to catch up. Further, they wouldn't throw a former POTUS in a federal pin; he'd get what amounts to "lifetime house arrest" at worst. Even when NY State charges him - and they will - he wont do a second of State time for the same reasons.

[trev]

35. I really prefer prison, but I think you're right.

Even at state level, he'd probably just pay a fine.

However, I would enjoy watching his and the GOP's reaction as he is impeached, and then tried by NY. This could constitute years of humiliation for him--and fright for them--and I'm not against that.

Because this isn't about a blow job, as it was with Clinton. It's not even about his adultery and lechery. It's about anti-constitutional behavior and an above-the-law power grab. We need to make sure others are deterred from attempting the same thing.

[Kurt V.]

63. this is correct. imo

[LonePirate]

13. Prison is the only option. Resignation merely forces the media to fast-track the memory hole.

Prison also sends a valuable message as the right wing fears nothing more than time behind bars.

[HAB911]

14. Prison. But it will never happen

"for the good of the country"

Unless it happens after he is out of office

[murielm99]

15. Agnew stayed out of the limelight

after he resigned. Nixon did, for the most part. He did the Frost interviews, but no one wanted Nixon to get back into a position where he was regarded as a respected elder statesman.

Trump has to go to jail. He would not shut up if he had a deal like Agnew's. He would crow about how he had "won." He needs to be shut down and shut up.

I used to think it would be okay if he was forced to resign, and we allowed him to frame it as a win. I don't think I feel that way any more. Things have gone too far. He is becoming more of a madman by the day.

[global1]

21. We'll Never Be Rid Of Trump....

It's not in his DNA. If he doesn't go to prison and become is stripped of all of his money - he'll continue to insert himself in our faces somehow. Tweets. TV. etc.

He and his family need to be held responsible for their actions and crimes. If not - somewhere down the line - we'll have ourselves another Trump-like character.

People like Trump need to be taught a lesson - that nobody is above the law. We also have to close all the loopholes that this guy exploited so that this country will never face another crisis like this in the future.

[in2herbs]

25. According to a Rachel Maddow podcast, Agnew may have stayed out of the spotlight but

he certainly didn't stay out of politics, just did his deeds in the dark.

Without a doubt I want Trump impeached but I don't see him ever going to jail for any crime -- or his kids either, because of our two systems of justice. Because of that I'd rather he be forced to resign and be stripped of his pension in lieu of jail, although he's probably going to need his pension to pay all the back taxes that he owes.

[Johonny]

16. Both

[onetexan]

81. +1 -K&R

[tblue37]

17. Prison. nt

[SoCalNative]

18. Why choose?

Resignation, followed by prison after NY state gets done with him.

[Blue Owl]

19. Klink Klink Klink

All the way, let him rot and fester...

[atreides1]

20. Really?

How about option 3, his head on a pike right next to Pence!!!!

[stillcool]

22. he needs jail time...

and so do those who aided and abetted. If it were just money that would be one thing, but this guy is dangerous.

[hunter]

23. One fine day in the middle of the night

Trump and Pence got up to fight.
Back-to-back they faced one another,
Drew their swords and shot each other.
One was blind and the other couldn't see,
So they chose a dummy for a referee.
A blind man went to see fair play,
A dumb man went to shout "hooray!"
A paralyzed donkey passing by,
Kicked the blind men in the eye,
Knocked him through a nine-inch wall,
Into a dry ditch and drowned them all.
A deaf policeman heard the noise,
And went to arrest the two dead boys.
If you don't believe this lie is true,
Ask the blind man – he saw it too!

[rurallib]

24. PRISON - no rich person ever gets real jail time

They all figure they can just buy their way out of jail or somehow get probation because of their stature.

Just once, JUST ONCE I would like to see a rich man spend some significant time in prison with no privileges.

In Trump's case I would love to see Trump's assets seized and sold to pay back what he has skimmed in "emoluments" and what he has screwed workers out of over the decades.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. Stroke or heart attack

[Downtown Hound]

27. Take a wild guess.

[anarch]

28. I'd prefer he be driven around the country and exhibited publicly in stocks

so that each U.S. citizen can have the opportunity to personally point at him and laugh, and call him a "loser" to his face.


I don't believe anyone should ever be locked up...it's unethical.

[kimbutgar]

29. You should have also made a poll

Prison is my first choice and the family name of fat donnie representing the traitor name like Benedict Arnold.

[Vinca]

30. Prison . . . for a long, long time.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

31. No deal, your Fired !!

Prison and no time off !!! We’re partially in this mess because Agnew and Nixon didn’t spend a day in Prison.
Let Trump learn the hard way, with him it’s the only way.

[Va Lefty]

32. He needs to meet Mr. Mayhem. (Sons of Anarchy ref.)

[tinrobot]

34. He can resign from prison

[Turin_C3PO]

36. I'd love to see him frog marched in cuffs out of the White House.

And no club fed for him. He needs to be in a real prison.

[democratisphere]

37. Many consecutive centuries in prison. Shorter sentences for good behavior

will take care of itself.

[Clash City Rocker]

38. Preferably both

[Buckeyeblue]

39. Resignation...live the rest of his life poor and shunned

[Celerity]

40. super max, with Ivanka stuffed in a cell nearby, 24-7 CCTV fed into daddy's cell so he can watch her

her go batshit insane as the years drag grindingly on

[Vogon_Glory]

41. Prison

Spiro did far less than Orange Julius.

[fierywoman]

42. Prison and cut off from twitter.

[sprinkleeninow]

43. 1st resign, then hoosegow. eom

[SWBTATTReg]

45. I think this ? is better answered by all of the subcontractors rump has ripped off. I suspect...

that we all know what their answers would be.

[Grasswire2]

46. Prison, rendered penniless and powerless along w/ his family.

Remember, REVENGE is his animating force. Always has been.

He (and DJTJ, Ivanka, Jared, Eric) must be stripped of all power and privilege or they WILL NOT CEASE to operate a criminal enterprise.

It's a MOB enterprise.

Must stamp it out. Totally. Fully.

Heads on pikes would be good warning to others, although we are likely not going to see that.

Put the freaking fear of the law into cronies and admirers.

[Maru Kitteh]

47. I would prefer cholesterol come through and do it's job on January 22, 2021. And I don't

really care where he is when it happens. I just want him to see the MASSIVE crowd at the Democratic President-Elect's inauguration and the unbridled joy and celebration through the entire country (and the Earth) over the next couple days on TV when he and the vermin he infested our government with are GONE.

THEN - step it up, artery-clogging plaques! Do what you do best! Cause I don't want to waste any more of my precious life hearing that thing's opinion about anything at all.

[TruckFump]

48. Preference: Anything that removed the Orange Asshole as POTUS and

takes that POS Pence with him

[Grasswire2]

49. How about a cam in his cell so that we can all watch his misery 24/7/365?

I'd pay to see that. Haha.

[FakeNoose]

50. Once he resigns, NYS indictments begin (maybe federal too)

The only reason he hasn't been indicted is that he's the current pResident. Once that ends (by resigning or losing the election) the dam breaks and everything dumps on him. The donkeys have been patient, but we're getting awful close.

[randr]

51. Interstate trash removal

Put him in pink and have him pick up trash along our highway systems.
We would all have the opportunity to flash him a sign of thanks all day long

[brush]

53. Prison, but resignation would still do as he will be in dire straits...

out of office as his businesses are failing and he will be a disgraced pariah.

[Ponietz]

54. No more deals--MF45 deserves worse than prison.

[3catwoman3]

55. I'd be fine with...

...a casket.

[Brawndo]

64. +1 Sic semper tyrannis

[LovingA2andMI]

56. Both.....

n/t

[Thunderbeast]

57. GITMO!

Let him eat slop and crap in a bucket with no privacy. Let his guards be Hispanics and Blacks.

Put Jr., Ivanka, Jared and Mitch in the compound where they can hear each other scream but can't see each other. Put a TV screen outside his cell that plays Obama's Correspondent's Dinner Roast 7x24. Put warm buckets of KFC outside his cell where he can smell, but not reach.

A man can dream....

[D00ver]

58. Prison

Along with the rest of the republicans that aided him in his criminality. Must deter future politicians

[rogue emissary]

59. How about imprisoned in The Guantanamo Bay detention camp.

[ariadne0614]

60. Prison, unless a mental health evaluation justifies involuntary commitment. . .

. .to a secure institution that experiments with psychotropic substances. I would prescribe LSD, psilocybin, and/or mescaline, but would be open to other suggestions.

[still_one]

61. bOTH

[matt819]

62. Prison

Along with the rest of his crooked family.

[pnwest]

65. PRISON.

[jrthin]

66. Why not both? nt

[Mersky]

67. Prison

With no phones or hairspray allowed

[Mendocino]

68. Swamp Castle treatment

resignation, prison and stroke.

[BigDemVoter]

69. Prison for life. . . Solitary confinement. And I'm not exaggerating or joking.

[Initech]

70. Prison, and I want him to name names and take them with him.

I'm looking at you, Mitch.

Now that would be "Draining The Swamp".

[lillypaddle]

71. Heart attack

nice and slow. In a cage, preferably.

[yonder]

72. A long, healthy or not (just long) life behind bars. Absolutely

[arthritisR_US]

73. Why either or? Why not both?

[cynatnite]

74. Poor, impoverished, dead broke...

I think that's the worst possible thing that could happen to him in his eyes. Powerless and broke.

[GoCubsGo]

75. Resignation. Don't forget about the state charges.

The sooner he's gone, the better. Pence could pardon him for federal charges, but odds are, he's going to go down on state charges, regardless of what happens on the federal level. Nothing anyone can do about that.

[calimary]

76. Can I have both?

[enid602]

77. Mussolini

Tie them all up Mussolini style.

[trueblue2007]

78. I want end of life for him.

[Lifelong Protester]

79. Drain the swamp!

Starting with him in prison.

[dlk]

82. Both: Resignation First, Then Prison

[Cattledog]

83. Exile.

[FiveGoodMen]

89. I'd PREFER an exception to the 8th

[Staph]

90. I could live with house arrest rather than prison,

if it is truly house arrest. No travel, limited visitors, absolutely no golf!

[Ani Yun Wiya]

91. How about...

1. Resignation.
2. Stripped of all assets.
3. Imprisonment.
4. The rope or the gangplank...

[I_have_had_enough]

93. I say no to jail

Convict him.
Embarrass him.
Shun him.
Only 3rd world countries jail previous leaders.
Cover him with venom.
Then ignore and look to the future.
We own the future, he is irrelevant.